Trump-Harris Presidential Debate

[Hoodat]

I've been traveling, so I missed the debate.  But I'm just now sitting in front of a TV, and they're replaying it.  And from what I'm seeing, this is a complete disaster for Trump.  This was his debate to lose.  All he had to do was talk about the future.  And the two topics he had to avoid at all costs was abortion and how great of a job he did last time he was President.  After five minutes, I can't watch any more of this.

[jafo2010]

Trump should schedule a rally in West Virginia, where he can apologize for claiming it was the Governor of West Virginia that accepted killing a baby after birth.  He was referencing Gov Ralph Northum of VIRGINIA, who was/is a physician.

There has been major fact checks that he never supported infantcide, but I sat and listened to him being interviewed where he said it was something we should consider as a society.  He was referencing a baby being born with one or more abnormalities.  But who is to argue whether the baby had abnormalities or not?  Who would actually protect said baby if the mother told the doctor she did not want it?  How many doctors would just inject the child with something to kill it quickly.  No one would ask questions.

[Hoodat]

John Cardillo
@johncardillo
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Trump is going on tangents now. He's missing opportunities. Plenty of punches would land, but he's not taking them.

Yep.  His ego is his worst enemy.

[jafo2010]

Issue:  Harris claimed Trump killed the border/immigration bill designed by the pukes in Congress for his own election purposes, to have it as a political issue.  Harris claimed it was bipartisan, and conservative senators supported the bill.

That is all true enough, but the bill allowed up to 5,000 people to pour across the border per day.  And I for one, believe any number above the number zero is unacceptable.  I don't care what reason Trump had, the fact he stopped this horrible legislation from passing was in the best interest of the USA citizens.  Bravo President Trump.

And for the stinking POSs that are Republican wanting to support this awful piece of legislation, I hope all of you are voted out of office in the next primary.

[Hoodat]

Trump should schedule a rally in West Virginia, where he can apologize for claiming it was the Governor of West Virginia that accepted killing a baby after birth.  He was referencing Gov Ralph Northum of VIRGINIA, who was/is a physician.

There has been major fact checks that he never supported infantcide, but I sat and listened to him being interviewed where he said it was something we should consider as a society.  He was referencing a baby being born with one or more abnormalities.  But who is to argue whether the baby had abnormalities or not?  Who would actually protect said baby if the mother told the doctor she did not want it?  How many doctors would just inject the child with something to kill it quickly.  No one would ask questions.

The bottom line here is that the President of the United States should be the absolute last person in the country to be talking about this.  If it's up to the States, then STFU!

[jafo2010]

For the record, ABC and Disney are owned by Berkshire Hathaway.  Who owns all the fore mentioned?

                      Warren Buffett, billionaire extraordinaire

You know, the man that owns the railroads that transport the oil from Canada to the Gulf area for refining(making him billions annually) that the pipeline that was stopped by Obama would reduce the cost for transport.  You know, the man that said JUMP to Obama, and Obama responded, how high master?

[Hoodat]

There is no question the moderators are biased, but Trump walked right into the trap.  He had a 50/50 chance of winning, and he has blown it again.

Yep.  And it's not that difficult either.  When they ask questions about Jan 6, you answer that Americans aren't thinking about Jan 6 because they are too worried about affording groceries.  When they ask questions about abortion, you answer that women are more concerned about being able to afford a house than they are about what the President thinks about abortion.  But the great and mighty Donald Trump couldn't handle it.  He has now been snookered by two of the most incompetent Democrats alive - Joe Biden in 2020, and now Kamala Harris in 2024.

[Hoodat]

Gov. Mike Huckabee
@GovMikeHuckabee
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Just as I feared.  @realDonaldTrump
 has to debate Kamala but also has to debate the ABC moderator who thinks she is running for something.  Disgraceful!

But even with that, Trump should have mopped the floor with all three.

[Hoodat]

Jacqui Heinrich
@JacquiHeinrich
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NEW - Harris is asking for a second debate

From Jen O’Malley Dillon: “Vice President Harris is ready for a second debate. Is Donald Trump?”

Trump has no choice but to say 'yes' here.  But I don't think his ego can handle it.  People are going to remember the last game, not the first one.  But if he loses again, he's toast.  I mean seriously, how is he going to fight for me when he can't even beat a ditzy lazy-ass liberal?

[Hoodat]

Every Conservative has seen the video of Harris being asked if she would end fracking, and her response was "absolutely". Trump should have had the date, time, and exact quote in his hip pocket.    Huge missed opportunity.  She won the fracking issue.

And that is truly sad.

[jafo2010]

Quote from: cato potatoe on Today at 02:41:36 am
There is no question the moderators are biased, but Trump walked right into the trap.  He had a 50/50 chance of winning, and he has blown it again.

Hoodat...
Yep.  And it's not that difficult either.  When they ask questions about Jan 6, you answer that Americans aren't thinking about Jan 6 because they are too worried about affording groceries.  When they ask questions about abortion, you answer that women are more concerned about being able to afford a house than they are about what the President thinks about abortion.  But the great and mighty Donald Trump couldn't handle it.  He has now been snookered by two of the most incompetent Democrats alive - Joe Biden in 2020, and now Kamala Harris in 2024.

Nonsense.  Trump did not lose a damn thing.  He looked presidential.  He bit his tongue repeatedly from turning Harris into confetti, which would have been easy for him to do.

Trump looked presidential.  And unlike Harris, he did not repeatedly lie about everything like her.  She is taking a page out of Biden's playbook, that repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it.  She looked weak to me, and nothing remotely approaching presidential.

I am certain the Dems assembled 100 people, maybe more, in small groups, folks who were undecided, and after the debate asked one question, do you now see yourself voting for Harris.  I am 100% certain the response was overwhelmingly against Harris.

Hence, the immediate response by the Harris campaign requesting another debate.  If we have an honest election, she loses big time.  If it is like 2020, it will be fixed once again, and she narrowly wins in 6-8 toss up states.

[cato potatoe]

I've been traveling, so I missed the debate.  But I'm just now sitting in front of a TV, and they're replaying it.  And from what I'm seeing, this is a complete disaster for Trump.  This was his debate to lose.  All he had to do was talk about the future.  And the two topics he had to avoid at all costs was abortion and how great of a job he did last time he was President.  After five minutes, I can't watch any more of this.

It was atrocious, and I'll be surprised if he recovers.  He really went into a spiral after she referred to his rally goers leaving early.  I mean, how pathetic is that?  He sounded very agitated towards the end, like a memory care patient after sunset.  I can understand not wanting Kamala to win, but Donald should not be president either.

[jafo2010]

Harris spoke of having a plan to help small business, to help first time home buyers to get a house, etc, etc.

Up until a couple days ago, she had nothing on her website, and she refused to talk to anyone about her grand plans.

My bet, we still will NOT SEE HER answering questions about her intentions and her so called plans.

She is the grand ghost of politics.  No one has seen one thing from this ghost about what she intends to do, but more importantly how she intends to do it.  Where is all the money coming from?  Or is it just print more money and more money. 

Ugggh.  Please God, save us from this major POS!!!  Our system is broke if this POS can rise to be the candidate without one person in the USA voting for her.  Democracy my *ss!!!  Fascism, plain and simple!!!

[Hoodat]

Nonsense.  Trump did not lose a damn thing.  He looked presidential.

Presidential?  LMAO.  Trump looked like an egomaniac who was easily triggered.

[American Girl]

From day 1, the entire Kamala campaign has been built on lies, deceit, and fraud!
Imagine getting the questions ahead of time, having 2 moderators helping you out, having someone telling you what to say through an audio earring, and still losing that bad??

https://redstatenation.com/screenshots-kamala-harriss-interesting-choice-of-earrings-during-last-nights-debate-they-look-identical-to-the-nova-h1-audio-earrings/

[Timber Rattler]

Presidential?  LMAO.  Trump looked like an egomaniac who was easily triggered.

Yeah, Trump smoked himself.  So what did he expect with those particular moderators...he knew who and what they were going into this thing but yet agreed to them and the venue.

If anybody recalls, Trump did the exact same thing to himself the last time he debated Biden in 2020.  His arrogance and ego got the best of him, especially after Harris needled him about people leaving his rallies early.

Now imagine if DeSantis, or even Haley, had been up there last night...

[ScottinVA]

Hate to say it, and the country will die on her watch, but it appears to me Harris won the debate rather handily last night.  Trump repeatedly took the bait and lost his composure.  It doesn’t matter that she didn’t expound on her policy flips… Americans care about style and she won that - and most likely the election - in that debate.

So… prepare accordingly.  Your finances and future depend on it.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So what is up with the eating cats thing?

[Timber Rattler]

So what is up with the eating cats thing?

Probably a reference to the Haitian illegals seen eating cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Probably a reference to the Haitian illegals seen eating cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio.

Is there any truth to that cause this is the first I am probably a lot of other people I’ve heard of it

[Timber Rattler]

Is there any truth to that cause this is the first I am probably a lot of other people I’ve heard of it

The media, Biden, and Democrats are trying very hard to deny that it's happening but local citizens who are seeing it firsthand say otherwise.

Biden admin condemns "dangerous" conspiracy about Haitian immigrants

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/10/jd-vance-trump-conspiracy-haitian-immigrants-cats


Haitian migrants eating pets? Here’s the even more serious story about immigrants in Springfield, Ohio

https://nypost.com/2024/09/09/us-news/all-about-viral-claims-of-haitian-migrants-eating-pets-in-springfield-ohio/

[catfish1957]

Nonsense.  Trump did not lose a damn thing.  He looked presidential.  He bit his tongue repeatedly from turning Harris into confetti, which would have been easy for him to do.

Trump looked presidential.  And unlike Harris, he did not repeatedly lie about everything like her.  She is taking a page out of Biden's playbook, that repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it.  She looked weak to me, and nothing remotely approaching presidential.

I am certain the Dems assembled 100 people, maybe more, in small groups, folks who were undecided, and after the debate asked one question, do you now see yourself voting for Harris.  I am 100% certain the response was overwhelmingly against Harris.

Hence, the immediate response by the Harris campaign requesting another debate.  If we have an honest election, she loses big time.  If it is like 2020, it will be fixed once again, and she narrowly wins in 6-8 toss up states.

I understand you being pissed.  I am too, but from an objective unbiased POV, Trump lost.  I judged from a traditonal debate point system., and I had it 135-80 for the bitch. On the criteria of content/style/strategy as dictated

"Policy debate scoring is defined by the National Speech & Debate Association to fall under three distinct categories — content, style, and strategy. Each of these area are weighted and carry a total of 60–80 points per debater for each initial speech. The reply on the other hand, is only scored between 30–40 points.

I then split the debate into Part 1 and 2 (45 minute increments) Though I did use a 0-80 and a 0-40 criteria to heighten the effect of any Biden like bombs.

Part 1-  Harris 75 Trump 35
Part 2-  Harris 60 Trump 45

135-80. (With Trump's end summation being his high point, Harris' her ability to not only bait Trump, but captialize.

Let's fix this disaster, move on, and get Trump the win.

[Hoodat]

It was atrocious, and I'll be surprised if he recovers.  He really went into a spiral after she referred to his rally goers leaving early.  I mean, how pathetic is that?

Thinking quickly on his feet is not Trump's strong suit.  Imagine if she had said that to someone like Ted Cruz or Ron DeSantis:

"At least people show up at my rallies."

or

"The only time anyone left early at one of my rallies was in Butler, PA.  And we all know why."

Instead, Trump's ego gets all butt-hurt as it immediately becomes the most important debate topic of the night.  Not the monetizing of the debt.  Not runaway inflation.  Not unaffordable mortgage rates.  Not the threat of war.  And certainly not illegal immigration.  No sir.  What really matters is that no one left a Trump rally early.

[mountaineer]

Is there any truth to that cause this is the first I am probably a lot of other people I’ve heard of it

EXCLUSIVE: Police Audio, Report Confirm Haitian Goose-Hunting In Ohio: ‘They All Had Geese In Their Hands’
A caller reported to police a group of Haitian migrants carrying four geese in Springfield, Ohio in exclusive audio obtained by The Federalist.
By: Tristan Justice
September 10, 2024

A recording of a police phone call obtained by The Federalist reveals a local resident reporting a group of Haitian migrants carrying four geese in Springfield, Ohio two weeks ago.

“I’m sitting here, I’m riding on the trail, I’m going to my orientation for my job today, and I see a group of Haitian people, there was about four of ’em, they all had geese in their hand,” the caller tells the public services dispatcher in the audio recording of the call.

According to a police report reviewed by The Federalist, the call was placed on Aug. 26, before the Columbus suburb located roughly 50 miles from the state capital became nationally known this week for epitomizing the nation’s migrant crisis. The caller told the dispatcher he saw four migrants in total, two men and two women, each carrying a single goose. ...
https://thefederalist.com/2024/09/10/exclusive-police-audio-report-confirm-haitian-goose-hunting-in-ohio-they-all-had-geese-in-their-hands/

[catfish1957]

And just a couple of observational summation points on this debate....

(1) I seriously doubt any Trump supporter bolted because of this.  I think Trump needs to treat this as one "news cycle loss", which includes the idiotic Taylor Swift endorsement for Harris.  If Swift was so smart, she'd withheld that endorsement to another "News cycle day"

(2) I want to know how and what happened to Trump's plan to win this.  Why did he go off the rails?  If he can't control himself with this mental light weight, you got to wonder about other things.

(3) I was amazed by Harris' nailing way past expectations.  Almost bizarrely, and whether ABC was involved with her debate prep.  I don't think without help, she does not have the ability to compete at the level she did last night.  Her performance IMO, was up there in the same craziness of Doc Ellis throwing a no hitter while on Acid.

(4) ABC in historic fashion skewed this debate.  Case 1, I think Trump was fact checked about 5 or 6 times.  Harrris? None, though she was spewing non stop lies and distortions. This was the most MSM influenced and biased POTUS debate in history.  And I have been watching these things since Nixon v. Humphrey.

(5) Impact?-   With all the monday morning quarterbacking, one thing that we seem to forget is that Trump seems to get poll bumps, even when tradtional thinking would be otherwise.  Kind of like during the lawfare events.  There is a decent chance that some INDYs and moderates saw behind the ruse, and just might decide for Trump.  On this matter, we should know within a week.