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If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« on: September 06, 2024, 03:44:33 pm »
If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It

Joel B. Pollak 6 Sep 2024

Supporters of former President Donald Trump have been looking forward to next week’s debate with Vice President Kamala Harris because they believe, not unreasonably, that she will be exposed as an unqualified lightweight.

But not even a Biden-like collapse will sway most Democratic voters. They will not see it — and if they see it, they will ignore it.

That is the world we inhabit in 2024. It’s not just that the media are trying to lie to, or hide the truth from, the public; voters, especially but not exclusively on the left, are also actively participating in creating their own self-delusion.

That is how Kamala Harris, one of the least popular presidential candidates when she ran in 2019 (she dropped out before 2020), whose approval ratings were even lower than those of President Joe Biden, suddenly became a beloved leader for her party, bringing the “joy” back to politics and pulling Democrats off the sidelines and back into the race.

Democrats — not just leaders, but voters — have decided that they only see what they want to see in Kamala Harris. There is the obvious: she is female, she is black, she is Asian, and she would achieve “firsts” in presidential identity.

More than that: she is described as a breath of fresh air, despite being a loyal member of what calls itself the Biden-Harris administration, and despite casting tie-breaking votes in the Senate that ushered in its worst legislation.

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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2024, 03:58:09 pm »
Well, duh!
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2024, 04:06:54 pm »
What matters is if the electorate ignores it or not.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2024, 04:12:55 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on September 06, 2024, 04:06:54 pm
What matters is if the electorate ignores it or not.

Correct.  The press will spin it, for sure.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2024, 04:33:56 pm »
Yes, they will grade her on a curve, and demand everyone else do the same. 

I'm already sick of the Kamala presidency and it hasn't even started yet. 
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2024, 04:59:05 pm »
So, if she blows this nothing will come of it?
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2024, 05:03:20 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on September 06, 2024, 04:59:05 pm
So, if she blows this nothing will come of it?

Nah. Don't discount the independents.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2024, 05:19:14 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 06, 2024, 04:12:55 pm
Correct.  The press will spin it, for sure.

And the majority of pollsters will publish "data" supporting the spin.

We know it's coming --- so buckle up and vote for Trump!

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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2024, 05:59:45 pm »
Maybe, but remember it was Biden's poor performance in the debate that led to his poll numbers dropping, and the Democrats subsequently removing him from the ticket.

So yes, hardcore leftists will ignore a bad performance and the media will try to spin in her favor, but people in the middle can still have their minds changed if they see her being herself, i.e., vacuous and stupid.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2024, 06:58:23 pm »
Quote from: Ghost Bear on September 06, 2024, 05:59:45 pm
Maybe, but remember it was Biden's poor performance in the debate that led to his poll numbers dropping, and the Democrats subsequently removing him from the ticket.

The media *reporting* Biden's poor performance crashed his numbers ---- and ushered in the pre-determined replacement of Biden on the ticket.  This was the fulfillment of the demonrat plan.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2024, 07:00:25 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on September 06, 2024, 04:59:05 pm
So, if she blows this nothing will come of it?

:bigsilly:

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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2024, 10:25:32 am »
Quote from: rustynail on September 06, 2024, 04:59:05 pm
So, if she blows this nothing will come of it?
Hmmmm. No surge?
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2024, 03:51:03 pm »
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2024, 04:01:47 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on September 06, 2024, 06:58:23 pm
The media *reporting* Biden's poor performance crashed his numbers ---- and ushered in the pre-determined replacement of Biden on the ticket.  This was the fulfillment of the demonrat plan.

Of course it was pre-planned and unfortunately the fate of Trump going forward is pre-planned as well.  He has been known to be one step ahead at times, so I'm hoping somehow, some way he's seated in the oval office.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2024, 04:06:23 pm »
This is Trump's debate to lose.  If he talks about the future, he'll win.  But if he talks about how great of a job he did last time, he'll lose.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2024, 07:22:56 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on September 07, 2024, 04:01:47 pm
Of course it was pre-planned and unfortunately the fate of Trump going forward is pre-planned as well.  He has been known to be one step ahead at times, so I'm hoping somehow, some way he's seated in the oval office.
I would not put it past them to mix up his pre-game meds to make ditching him blatantly justifiable.
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Re: If Kamala Crashes in Debate, Democrats Will Ignore It
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2024, 07:24:27 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 07, 2024, 04:06:23 pm
This is Trump's debate to lose.  If he talks about the future, he'll win.  But if he talks about how great of a job he did last time, he'll lose.
Exactly. Stick to policy and how it will make the future brighter.

Hammer that what we have been doing lately isn't working, and this is how we will make it better.
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