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« on: September 01, 2024, 04:44:08 pm »
Walz maintains favorability edge over Vance in battle of VPs
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September 1, 2024 2:34 pm
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Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) is winning the running mate favorability war, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll.

Walz has a 42% favorability rating in the survey, against 31% who view him unfavorably. That’s a much better number than his Republican counterpart, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), who has a 32% favorability rating against 44% who view him unfavorably.

Both vice presidential candidates have seen their share of controversy in just a few weeks of campaigning. For Vance, resurfaced comments he made about “childless cat ladies” running the Democratic Party have dogged him since he became part of the GOP ticket in July.

Walz has faced accusations of stolen valor for exaggerating his military record, and similar controversies about embellishing other aspects of his past, including how he got his start in politics.

But the Vance issues seem to have more purchase with the public so far, who view him much less favorably than Walz.

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2024, 04:44:42 pm »
Sickening...respondents favored a pathological liar.. :shrug:
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2024, 05:01:23 pm »
Sickening...respondents favored a pathological liar.. :shrug:

Where are the ads pointing this out?

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2024, 11:37:03 pm »
Where are the ads pointing this out?
A picture is worth a thousand words. Walz enabled this, Harris raised money to bail out the perpetrators.

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2024, 12:53:48 am »
Where are the ads pointing this out?

There have been. There’s been several ads, for example, addressing the issue regarding the link that Kamala Harris had on her website to a bail out fund for the rioters in Minneapolis in 2020

But some have the mistaken idea that this presidential race is going to be about the issues or who gives interviews to the press. What you see happening with Biden exiting the race and  Kamala entering it is exactly what a lot of us predicted could happen


She has united the Democrat base more than Biden or Hillary did. Which actually surprises me because she was one of the first to drop out of the Democrat primary in 2020

Here in Wisconsin, the Democratic Party has really sharpened their get out the  vote machine in not only Dane and Milwaukee counties, but the suburbs as well. Harris is going to win Wisconsin. She will also take Michigan, which is become very blue in the age of Trump

But what she also has done has given unaffiliated voters a way out of having Biden and Trump being their only two choices.  They may or may not end up voting for Harris in November. But they sure as hell won’t vote for Trump.


Democrats are going into this election  as strong and united as they were in 2008 while the Republican Party flounders. Her picking Walz was  a great choice from her perspective because it unites  the progressive base. In 2016, Trump actually got 12% of so-called Bernie voters who saw Hillary and Caine as not progressive enough. This Harris/Walz is their dream ticket

Also, demographic shifts have favored the Democrat Party. That doesn’t mean that the Republican Party will never win the national election again. They’re just not going to win with Trump and Vance


I would not count on JD Vances public image improving much between now and election day. Voters have tied him to Donald Trump. That explains why Donald Trump‘s endorsed candidates under performed in 2022
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2024, 07:00:58 am »

I would not count on JD Vances public image improving much between now and election day.

Just this past week,  JD gave three speeches and as many sit-down interviews.  What, if anything, impressed you @LMAO ?  What disappointed you?

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2024, 12:25:01 pm »
Just this past week,  JD gave three speeches and as many sit-down interviews.  What, if anything, impressed you @LMAO ?  What disappointed you?

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2024, 02:39:40 pm »
There have been. There’s been several ads, for example, addressing the issue regarding the link that Kamala Harris had on her website to a bail out fund for the rioters in Minneapolis in 2020

But some have the mistaken idea that this presidential race is going to be about the issues or who gives interviews to the press. What you see happening with Biden exiting the race and  Kamala entering it is exactly what a lot of us predicted could happen


She has united the Democrat base more than Biden or Hillary did. Which actually surprises me because she was one of the first to drop out of the Democrat primary in 2020

Here in Wisconsin, the Democratic Party has really sharpened their get out the  vote machine in not only Dane and Milwaukee counties, but the suburbs as well. Harris is going to win Wisconsin. She will also take Michigan, which is become very blue in the age of Trump

But what she also has done has given unaffiliated voters a way out of having Biden and Trump being their only two choices.  They may or may not end up voting for Harris in November. But they sure as hell won’t vote for Trump.


Democrats are going into this election  as strong and united as they were in 2008 while the Republican Party flounders. Her picking Walz was  a great choice from her perspective because it unites  the progressive base. In 2016, Trump actually got 12% of so-called Bernie voters who saw Hillary and Caine as not progressive enough. This Harris/Walz is their dream ticket

Also, demographic shifts have favored the Democrat Party. That doesn’t mean that the Republican Party will never win the national election again. They’re just not going to win with Trump and Vance


I would not count on JD Vances public image improving much between now and election day. Voters have tied him to Donald Trump. That explains why Donald Trump‘s endorsed candidates under performed in 2022

She's not exactly slaying it in Wisconsin or Michigan:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-harris

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/trump-vs-harris

Either could easily flip, they're probably within the measure of error. Would probably only need 1 voter in 100 to change their mind. Trump had two recent good polls in WI.

I think Harris is ahead now, but not by much. My problem with Trump is he's not very disciplined in times like these. And he's probably at his ceiling in terms of people voting for him, rather than against Harris.

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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2024, 12:01:07 pm »
She's not exactly slaying it in Wisconsin or Michigan:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-harris

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/trump-vs-harris

Either could easily flip, they're probably within the measure of error. Would probably only need 1 voter in 100 to change their mind. Trump had two recent good polls in WI.

I think Harris is ahead now, but not by much. My problem with Trump is he's not very disciplined in times like these. And he's probably at his ceiling in terms of people voting for him, rather than against Harris.


Not going to happen for Trump here in Wisconsin. We had a ballot initiative recently, that was supported by the Republicans and opposed by the Democrats and the Democrats won it with over 60% of the vote, and from the results of some of these primaries, Democrats have an excellent ground game here in Wisconsin

Wisconsin went for Trump in 2016 by the narrowest of margins and that’s due to Hillary not even campaigning in the state at all


And I can’t see Michigan going for Trump with a democrat legislative body and a democrat governor that’s just as far as the left as Harris is
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2024, 12:29:17 pm »
A picture is worth a thousand words. Walz enabled this, Harris raised money to bail out the perpetrators.

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With Harris as president, cities around the country will continue to burn.

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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2024, 12:37:58 pm »
First impressions are always the most powerful.....

And the 24/7 dim/MSM initial  barrage around Vance's "cat ladies" comment  stuck.  Just one out of many examples were the dims are playing chess, while the GOP are still trying to figure out which color of checker (black or red) they want to play it.

Thus ....getting beat by not only a pathological liar, but a valor stealing ass hole.   Thank your local MSM for that.
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First impressions are always the most powerful.....

And the 24/7 dim/MSM initial  barrage around Vance's "cat ladies" comment  stuck.  Just one out of many examples were the dims are playing chess, while the GOP are still trying to figure out which color of checker (black or red) they want to play it.

Thus ....getting beat by not only a pathological liar, but a valor stealing ass hole.   Thank your local MSM for that.


Vance did worse in Ohio in 2022 than  other Republicans. He beat Tim Ryan by about six or seven points, which would be solid, except it was a state where other Republicans like Dewine, LaRose, and Yost won their elections by huge margins


That means there was a hell of a lot of people who voted for those three Republicans that did not vote for Vance. Why? I don’t live in Ohio, so I don’t have the answer, but maybe a briefer who does can explain
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2024, 01:13:18 pm »
One item working in Trump's favor is the even split among independents.  Biden won them by 13 points, and they were decisive in all of the states Trump lost by narrow margins.  If Kamala Harris can maintain the enthusiasm gap, her voters will outnumber Trump's in the same states, though it may not be obvious for a couple of days. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2024, 01:39:02 pm »

Vance did worse in Ohio in 2022 than  other Republicans. He beat Tim Ryan by about six or seven points, which would be solid, except it was a state where other Republicans like Dewine, LaRose, and Yost won their elections by huge margins


That means there was a hell of a lot of people who voted for those three Republicans that did not vote for Vance. Why? I don’t live in Ohio, so I don’t have the answer, but maybe a briefer who does can explain

I thought a tad was due to the "carpetbagger" syndrome.  I understand there are a lot of Ohio-ians who don't consider him one of their own.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2024, 01:45:20 pm »
I thought a tad was due to the "carpetbagger" syndrome.  I understand there are a lot of Ohio-ians who don't consider him one of their own.


I don’t know. You could be right. It would be interesting to ask the people of Ohio that voted for Republicans, but didn’t vote for JD Vance, as the reason why
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