Booker: This Election Could ‘Kill’ MAGA Strain of Republican Party

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Booker: This Election Could ‘Kill’ MAGA Strain of Republican Party

Pam Key 25 Aug 2024

Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” that the November election could “kill” the MAGA strain of the Republican Party.

Host Jake Tapper said, “America is wanted for a new chapter. America is ready for a better story a, new, chapter. I mean, she’s the incumbent vice president. Democrats have controlled the White House for 12 of the last 16 years. How can Democrats talk about a new chapter? Turning the page, you guys are the ones writing the book?”

Booker said, “Well, you know that that’s not true, Jake, because you know, politics like I do right now, we see the MAGA Republicans in Congress killing all kind of pragmatic policies that we need to get done. On the most contentious issue we had a bipartisan deal settle on by Senator Lankford are right-wing Republican and Chris Murphy, a blue state Democrat. And what killed that deal were killed the pragmatic progress wasn’t the sensible Republicans, but really people that were kowtowing to Donald Trump has influence is egregious and incredible from his appointment of three people to the Supreme Court that are now rolling back the most fundamental of our rights and freedoms like bodily autonomy and reproductive rights.”

He added, “So to say that the MAGA Republicans are not still undermining common sense pragmatic, sensible politics is just wrong and what I know this election can do is finally kill that strain of the Republican Party in a way that I think helps the pragmatic Republicans come back.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/25/booker-this-election-could-kill-maga-strain-of-republican-party/

[libertybele]

This election could 'Kill' our country.

[Smokin Joe]

This election could 'Kill' our country.

Having read, recently, that our National Debt is within a couple trillion of "all the money in the world", I fear our Republic is already on life support, in a fiscally induced coma.

[Free Vulcan]

I'm just disappointed, with Booker repeating 'pragmatic' and 'sensible' in typical propaganda talking points fashion, that he didn't use the word 'joy' to intersectionally tie in to the Harris campaign.

Get with the program Cory.

[roamer_1]

Having read, recently, that our National Debt is within a couple trillion of "all the money in the world", I fear our Republic is already on life support, in a fiscally induced coma.

And choosing euthanasia no matter who 'wins'.

ETA: air quotes.

[DefiantMassRINO]

MAGA will not die; it will evolve.

Those who have been left behind by Globalism and left out by Washington DC have migrated among Occupy Wall Street, The Tea Party, The Freedom Caucus, and MAGA.  Those dis-affected by the current Government-Ecomic regime will find other movements to participate in.

[catfish1957]

Having read, recently, that our National Debt is within a couple trillion of "all the money in the world", I fear our Republic is already on life support, in a fiscally induced coma.

A service economy with a debt level of 150% of GDP can not survive under any circumstance.  it's not a matter of if at this point, but when.

[catfish1957]

MAGA will not die; it will evolve.

Those who have been left behind by Globalism and left out by Washington DC have migrated among Occupy Wall Street, The Tea Party, The Freedom Caucus, and MAGA.  Those dis-affected by the current Government-Ecomic regime will find other movements to participate in.

Those sound so nice and calm as the masses grumbling, as a  result.  All those are within the past 20 years, which is a microcosm in the grand scale of Eco-social-being.

Dates more like 1066, 1539, 1649, 1775, 1789, 1861 1914, 1929, and 1940 come to mind.    Like the bludgeoning debt,  the concept of upheaval has been kicked down the road so much that there isn't much of a can left.  I pray I am wrong, but the past 20 years have created an uncurrent and an environment needed for a perfect storm. 

[roamer_1]

A service economy with a debt level of 150% of GDP can not survive under any circumstance.  it's not a matter of if at this point, but when.

Oh I still have room for if... But it would require turning it around right now. And that just ain't gonna happen.

[libertybele]

Those sound so nice and calm as the masses grumbling, as a  result.  All those are within the past 20 years, which is a microcosm in the grand scale of Eco-social-being.

Dates more like 1066, 1539, 1649, 1775, 1789, 1861 1914, 1929, and 1940 come to mind.    Like the bludgeoning debt,  the concept of upheaval has been kicked down the road so much that there isn't much of a can left.  I pray I am wrong, but the past 20 years have created an uncurrent and an environment needed for a perfect storm.

A perfect storm?? I think we're right in the middle. Is there even a way out at this point???

[catfish1957]

Oh I still have room for if... But it would require turning it around right now. And that just ain't gonna happen.

Disagree.  We were in a similar debt mess after WW 2, but had an unprecedented industrial juggernaunt economy and society that allowed us to roar back.  Our biggest product now is bureacracy. We make nothing here now, and don't have the ability to pay down the debt.  In fact, we are not too far from having the debt encroach into standard government services.

That is when the socialist dominos start falling after things like:

(1) Taxing unrealized capital gains
(2) Government confiscation of IRA's and 401K's to build a national Retirement Annuity system to replace Social Security.
(3) GND accelerates demise.

I hate to sound so pessimistic, but each of us needs to at least look at that debt curve weekly to keep the whole thing in perspective and focus.  It boils down to this....   As the world's chosen government that controls the reference currency.  The entity of the United States government singularly opeates in the world with a blank check and unlimited credit card.  Every citizen and every other country is required to operate within a budget and fiscal constraints. 

We might take the world down with us, but the 95% of the rest of the world is not going to be kind as this thiing is rebuilt from scratch. 

[roamer_1]

A perfect storm?? I think we're right in the middle. Is there even a way out at this point???

This is not the middle. This is the beginning.

As to the MAGA movement... Good riddance. We can hope. Populism is a canker. It removes real resistance and plays to the worst of humanity.

[catfish1957]

A perfect storm?? I think we're right in the middle. Is there even a way out at this point???

Like @roamer_1 said....  If for some reason our government would wake up, and right now do a 180 on fiscal restraint, we could save ourselves.   Odds of that ?  Zero

[Hoodat]

Oh I still have room for if... But it would require turning it around right now. And that just ain't gonna happen.

Nope.  Not with the two Parties we have now.

[catfish1957]

This is not the middle. This is the beginning.

As to the MAGA movement... Good riddance. We can hope. Populism is a canker. It removes real resistance and plays to the worst of humanity.

We are in year 53 of this Fiat Economy experiment.  I feel we are at least a decade past the expiration date.  I will go on record to say that we actually aren't even at the beginning.

BUT....   We sure will know when it starts.  A lot of what the Fed does will dictate whether it will be a '29 style crash or a '20 Wiemar Republic like inflationary disaster.  Some of the really early signs will be when other nations start moving toward the Gold standard, or to a BRIX like alternative.  Currencies based on hard product likes like oil, agri-products, metals, etc. will replace the $USD.  I know the Chicoms are suffering right now, so that is another reason that when it happens, its a good chance its going to be world wide.

[libertybele]

Like @roamer_1 said....  If for some reason our government would wake up, and right now do a 180 on fiscal restraint, we could save ourselves.   Odds of that ?  Zero

It has occurred to me that WWIII is still possible and we have neither the manpower or the resources to right this ship and defend ourselves.  It's not like the millions of ILLEGALS are going to help...quite the opposite.

[roamer_1]

Disagree.  We were in a similar debt mess after WW 2, but had an unprecedented industrial juggernaunt economy and society that allowed us to roar back.  Our biggest product now is bureacracy. We make nothing here now, and don't have the ability to pay down the debt.  In fact, we are not too far from having the debt encroach into standard government services.

That is when the socialist dominos start falling after things like:

(1) Taxing unrealized capital gains
(2) Government confiscation of IRA's and 401K's to build a national Retirement Annuity system to replace Social Security.
(3) GND accelerates demise.

I hate to sound so pessimistic, but each of us needs to at least look at that debt curve weekly to keep the whole thing in perspective and focus.  It boils down to this....   As the world's chosen government that controls the reference currency.  The entity of the United States government singularly opeates in the world with a blank check and unlimited credit card.  Every citizen and every other country is required to operate within a budget and fiscal constraints. 

We might take the world down with us, but the 95% of the rest of the world is not going to be kind as this thiing is rebuilt from scratch.

Oh I agree with every word of that.

Turn around would mean slashing government and regulation, destroying unions, a return to notes rather than fiat money, and a messy, messy resurgence of industry... Heavy industry. It would look awful, and spawn robber barons... But if we fire up this country's economic engine, drop the cost of success, allowing innovation like we used to... And if we can somehow hold to the old ways and morality...

It would be threading the needle to be sure, and terribly painful... Which is why it won't be the way chosen by the elite...

And why the populists will bar any meaningful counteraction.

And the band will be playing 'Take me out to the ballgame' as the country burns.

It is why I speak doom like a prophet. It is so very dire. And the way forward is dim, along a narrow rocky ledge - not the broad, well lit highway the Republicans have chosen.... we all know where that road goes.

[Hoodat]

A perfect storm?? I think we're right in the middle. Is there even a way out at this point???

Yes.



If Argentina can do it, any country can do it.  It only requires a leader with the courage and willingness to do it.  Unfortunately, Republican voters don't want that kind of leader.  They prefer being the Democrat-lite Party, collecting their own slice of graft emanating from mint printing presses that never cease operation.

[libertybele]

We are in year 53 of this Fiat Economy experiment.  I feel we are at least a decade past the expiration date.  I will go on record to say that we actually aren't even at the beginning.

BUT....   We sure will know when it starts.  A lot of what the Fed does will dictate whether it will be a '29 style crash or a '20 Wiemar Republic like inflationary disaster.  Some of the really early signs will be when other nations start moving toward the Gold standard, or to a BRIX like alternative.  Currencies based on hard product likes like oil, agri-products, metals, etc. will replace the $USD.  I know the Chicoms are suffering right now, so that is another reason that when it happens, its a good chance its going to be world wide.

I hear what you're saying and I had suggested that we needed to go back to the gold standard and I was pounced on by a few in this forum.

[roamer_1]

We are in year 53 of this Fiat Economy experiment.  I feel we are at least a decade past the expiration date.  I will go on record to say that we actually aren't even at the beginning.

BUT....   We sure will know when it starts.  A lot of what the Fed does will dictate whether it will be a '29 style crash or a '20 Wiemar Republic like inflationary disaster.  Some of the really early signs will be when other nations start moving toward the Gold standard, or to a BRIX like alternative.  Currencies based on hard product likes like oil, agri-products, metals, etc. will replace the $USD.  I know the Chicoms are suffering right now, so that is another reason that when it happens, its a good chance its going to be world wide.

That's right... We are on a knife's edge as the World Reserve Currency - The irresponsibility of our government will cause that to be lost. And then the SHTF.

For everyone.

[Hoodat]

I hear what you're saying and I had suggested that we needed to go back to the gold standard and I was pounced on by a few in this forum.

That would certainly put an end to funding government excess with freshly printed money.  There are a few on this forum who are viciously opposed to Conservative ideals like that.  They are more concerned with espousing populism to win elections than they are with saving our country.  Power trumps foundation.

[catfish1957]

I hear what you're saying and I had suggested that we needed to go back to the gold standard and I was pounced on by a few in this forum.

Sure wouldn't have been me.  Returning to the Gold standard would have some short term deflationary risks,  because frankly, all of this exponential growth we have seen in the past especially 25 years or so is worthless paper, and propped up by ill advised investor exhuberance.

Case in Point?  I can remember investing in the '80's and early '90's when the P/E ratio of an equity of 20 was considered extremely over sold.  Today?  It's considered a bargain if the fundementals are covered.

And 3rd, the fact that Gold is at $2500/oz and having multiple records, just might be another benchmark that the smart money realizes the gig is up.

[roamer_1]

I hear what you're saying and I had suggested that we needed to go back to the gold standard and I was pounced on by a few in this forum.

I don't think there is enough gold. The Petrodollar would be fine, although volatile, Perhaps a combination of precious metals in some sort of new market derivation (gold+silver+platinum+etc)

But one way or another, the yankee buck needs to be backed by substance.

[jmyrlefuller]

Oh I agree with every word of that.

Turn around would mean slashing government and regulation, destroying unions, a return to notes rather than fiat money, and a messy, messy resurgence of industry... Heavy industry. It would look awful, and spawn robber barons... But if we fire up this country's economic engine, drop the cost of success, allowing innovation like we used to... And if we can somehow hold to the old ways and morality...

It would be threading the needle to be sure, and terribly painful... Which is why it won't be the way chosen by the elite...

And why the populists will bar any meaningful counteraction.

And the band will be playing 'Take me out to the ballgame' as the country burns.

It is why I speak doom like a prophet. It is so very dire. And the way forward is dim, along a narrow rocky ledge - not the broad, well lit highway the Republicans have chosen.... we all know where that road goes.

We'd need to up our birth rate, too. And to do that, every privilege that women are screaming and kicking to keep would need to be permanently revoked. They've already shown no willingness to do it willingly. "We won't go back," they scream. But we MUST go back, lest we go off the cliff to which they're pushing us full steam ahead.

[roamer_1]

We'd need to up our birth rate, too. And to do that, every privilege that women are screaming and kicking to keep would need to be permanently revoked. They've already shown no willingness to do it willingly. "We won't go back," they scream. But we MUST go back, lest we go off the cliff to which they're pushing us full steam ahead.

That is less of a worry for me. Feminism ends, stone cold, 10 feet into the forest, as it always has.
The economic crash will end it, because women will need protection once uncle nanny can't provide, just like they do the minute they enter the forest.

There ain't a hilljilly feminist, anywhere - to include a fair number of hippie women that settled into that life and have learned better.