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California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« on: August 17, 2024, 06:30:58 am »
California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
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California’s financial woes are escalating, surpassing initial projections. Initially, Governor Gavin Newsom anticipated a $37.9 billion shortfall for 2024-2025. However, updated data indicates the deficit could reach $73 billion. While the Legislative Analyst’s Office cautioned of a $68 billion shortage, the actual problem exceeds their estimations.

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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2024, 06:31:43 am »
What's next?  It gets deeper. :yowsa:
The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth.  George Washington - Farewell Address

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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2024, 06:38:01 am »
California has Oil & Gas, and a host of other mineral wealth.
It is a rich State, and all that stands in the way of California being prosperous is California.

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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2024, 12:19:51 pm »
What's next? More juggling of books and short-funding pensions. The Dems have 4 or 5 decades of practice.
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2024, 12:38:08 pm »
California has Oil & Gas, and a host of other mineral wealth.
It is a rich State, and all that stands in the way of California being prosperous is California.
It's also a beautiful state, which I explored frequently while living there 20 years ago.

Its roots are in free enterprise and capitalism, but the Hollywood types have turned Reagan's state into a cesspool of costly social experimentation and decay.

Even the most conservative part of California, Bakersfield and surrounding area, have reduced conservatism to RINO status in the election of Kevin McCarthy to succeed the very conservative Bill Thomas.
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2024, 01:00:28 pm »
Not to worry.  The incoming Harris regime will just hand over the difference to Newsom in the name of “grants.”

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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2024, 02:15:04 pm »
Not to worry.  The incoming Harris regime will just hand over the difference to Newsom in the name of “grants.”

Bracing myself for the day when the federal government announces a bailout for the Illinois state pension system.
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2024, 12:57:21 pm »
Not to worry.  The incoming Harris regime will just hand over the difference to Newsom in the name of “grants.”

Yup.

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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2024, 02:48:11 pm »
The FedGov burns thru that in about half a day. They'll plug that hole with FRN's and it won't even make a blip.
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2024, 08:42:31 am »
Gavin is like Kamala - blames others for what you have wrought

California blames Big Oil for gas price spikes, proposes further regulations, fines on refineries
California Gov. Gavin Newsom's newest proposal would require refineries to maintain a supply of gasoline to ward of price spikes, and would levy fines should they fail to comply.
By Kevin Killough
August 18, 2024

California's Gov. Gavin Newsom has a new plan for how his state can avoid gasoline price spikes — more regulation.

Newsom’s proposed rule would require that petroleum refiners in his state maintain a minimum fuel reserve to prevent shortages that cause higher prices. In an announcement on the proposal, Newsom blamed oil companies for high gasoline prices and promised further regulation of the industry would solve the problem for residents of the state.

“Price spikes at the pump are profit spikes for Big Oil. Refiners should be required to plan ahead and backfill supplies to keep prices stable, instead of playing games to earn even more profits. By making refiners act responsibly and maintain a gas reserve, Californians would save money at the pump every year,” Newsom said in a statement.

The California Energy Commission (CEC) found that in 2023, there were 63 days in which the state’s refiners were maintaining less than 15 days of supply. If the regulations would have been in place at the time, according to the CEC, Californians would have saved as much as $650 million in gas costs.

In his announcement, Newsom claimed that by holding “Big Oil accountable,” Californians this summer spent an estimated $728 million less on gasoline than they did in the summer 2023.

The newest proposal would impose penalties on refiners who don’t maintain the mandated supply.

California has a history of anti-fossil fuel policies and attacking refineries in the state for allegedly causing high gas prices. According to AAA, the state has the second highest average gas prices behind Hawaii. Meanwhile Texas, which has a comparably friendly regulatory environment for oil and gas, has the third lowest gasoline prices in the U.S.

In his announcement, Newsom boasted of calling a special legislative session and signing into law a package of “reforms” that held oil companies accountable for gas prices. He pointed to state agency investigations that further blamed refiners for “suspicious transactions” and failing to prepare for maintenance outages.

“The data is clear: oil refiners have been racking up profits by planning maintenance that reduces supply during our busy driving seasons,” Tai Milder, director of the Division of Petroleum Market Oversight, said in Newsom’s statement.

According to Doomberg, a group of analysts who post their writings on the group’s Substack, in the past 40 years, the number of operating refineries in California has fallen from 43 to just 14, a 67% reduction. Meanwhile, total California refining capacity dropped by 33% over the same time period.

“Onerous regulatory burdens have forced small operators, which produce fewer gallons to absorb such costs, out of the market. Over time, this has left considerable market share in the hands of a small number of large players, who effectively operate in an isolated oligopoly,” the Doomberg analysts explained in a piece last month.

Earlier this month, the CEC, fearing that the remaining nine refineries in the state might close, proposed that California state government take over and operate the facilities. The CEC had determined that, despite the state’s efforts to force Californians into electric vehicles, “gasoline demand will remain above two hundred thousand barrels per day (TBD) at least through 2035 if not longer.”

The CEC report predicted that demand declines would cause refineries to close. With fewer refineries in operation, the report argued, “harmful industry conduct will be amplified by bad actors acting anticompetitively.” Therefore, it was in the state’s interest to purchase and operate the refineries itself, the CEC proposed.

While the Newsom administration continues to treat oil companies as “bad actors” and regulate accordingly, oil companies are fleeing the state. Chevron announced earlier in August that it’s moving its headquarters to Texas. It’s just one of many companies leaving the state.

Chevron CEO Mike Wirth told the Wall Street Journal that the move was the result of the state’s regulations, which Wirth said, “raise costs, that hurt consumers, that discourage investment.”

Chevron’s origins, according to energy analyst David Blackmon, can be traced back to the founding of the Pacific Coast Oil Company in California in 1879.

Newsom’s latest proposal may drive even more companies away, oil and gas experts say. Catherine Reheis-Boyd, president and CEO of the Western States Petroleum Association told The Sacramento Bee that Newsom’s latest proposal for refineries is “regulatory malpractice” that will further harm the industry. She said the proposal is based on “falsehoods” and “ignores the logistical challenges and costs associated with such a plan.”
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/california-blames-big-oil-gas-price-spikes-proposes-further-regulations
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2024, 08:43:26 am »
What's Next?

$74 billion, silly.
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2024, 12:47:15 pm »
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California blames Big Oil for gas price spikes, proposes further regulations, fines on refineries

Standard biennial CA-Dem shtick. Always ends with an investigation that find that the EEEeeeeeee-vile oil companies did not price gouge. I think that even Goobernor Noisome should understand that Chevron, Valero, et al could just shut down their refineries, crashing California. But maybe he's gone that degree of stupid ...
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2024, 05:42:49 pm »
"California blames Big Oil for gas price spikes, proposes further regulations, fines on refineries..."

There's only one way out of this.

Ask Ellis Wyatt...
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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2024, 05:55:13 pm »
"Black Hole", can they say that?

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Re: California Faces $73B Budget Black Hole – What’s Next?
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2024, 12:09:02 am »
"Black Hole", can they say that?
Maybe it's like Kamala and just identifies as one.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis