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Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« on: August 11, 2024, 03:39:46 pm »
Just for fun (or to show how far we've sunk into the abyss)

Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born (slide video @ link)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/here-s-what-the-us-minimum-wage-was-the-year-you-were-born/ss-AA1oBdVJ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=18011e77a01c4eb7a295e4e774f122cc&ei=4


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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2024, 04:32:29 pm »
A buck an hour.....
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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2024, 05:01:54 pm »
Why do we have a minimum wage?
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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2024, 05:23:41 pm »
$.40 for me. And I agree with @Hoodat
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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2024, 05:28:54 pm »
In 1937, we had no minimum wage law.  Unemployment was at 14.3%.  The following year, the federal government implemented a national minimum wage law.  Unemployment shot up to 19%.  For those who lost their jobs, their wage became $0/hr overnight.
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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2024, 05:30:22 pm »
Why do we have a minimum wage?

It is heresy in a capitalist system. The voluntary agreement forming a contract should have no regulation.

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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2024, 05:37:53 pm »
$1.00/hr.  Interestingly at my first job, which was at a Jack In the Box I wasn't paid minimum wage...I didn't even have a car and had to walk.  Such is life, right?

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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2024, 06:30:19 pm »
It is heresy in a capitalist system. The voluntary agreement forming a contract should have no regulation.

Nonsense. 

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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2024, 07:06:24 pm »
Nonsense.

Not nonsense. One of the most dire times in my life, when I was all the way down and out, I worked from harvest through the winter for a couple hundred bucks a month and found.

The widow who did right by me during that time could barely afford that, but desperately needed the help, and I needed to get back on my feet.

We parted in the late spring, me with a stake and much gratefulness.

Uncle Nanny would have prevented our agreement. But for me, and for her, it was what both of us needed.

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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2024, 07:21:28 pm »
Not nonsense. One of the most dire times in my life, when I was all the way down and out, I worked from harvest through the winter for a couple hundred bucks a month and found.

The widow who did right by me during that time could barely afford that, but desperately needed the help, and I needed to get back on my feet.

We parted in the late spring, me with a stake and much gratefulness.

Uncle Nanny would have prevented our agreement. But for me, and for her, it was what both of us needed.

It is nonsense.  Laissez faire was a disaster, except for the robber barons.

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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2024, 07:30:51 pm »
It is nonsense.  Laissez faire was a disaster, except for the robber barons.

In fact it is no different now - the robber barons still exist.
All it does is remove jobs from those at the very bottom. I would employ someone tomorrow to mow my yard and square up the place - but not at the price of a professional service, nor at the cost of hiring domestic help, to include all the insurances that go with that.

So some poor bastard, down on his luck, will go without, and the work will be left wanting.

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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2024, 07:30:59 pm »
It is nonsense.  Laissez faire was a disaster, except for the robber barons.

Laissez faire has actually never been tried.

What people who want a government run economy call the Laissez-farie period was actually a period of crony-capitalism of a level similar to today.

The heaviest government subsidy was the use of the US military to protect business interests from Natives, previous settlers to areas, and Spain/Mexico. There were also heavily subsidized railroads. The Homestead Act gave subsidy to millions of immigrants in a government attempt to stimulate economic production.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2024, 07:35:42 pm »
It is nonsense.  Laissez faire was a disaster, except for the robber barons.
Central government micromanagement has worked so well...NOT!
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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2024, 07:36:41 pm »
The true minimum wage is $0.00 per hour.  The more the MW is bumped up by the government, the more people find this out the hard way.
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2024, 07:41:44 pm »
Irrelevant. I didn't enter the official workforce (working for wages) until I was 14. I never worked for Minimum wage. It meant taking harder, dirtier jobs with fewer benefits and ridiculous hours, but I was anywhere from 1.5X to 3.5X that before I ended up on day rate w/per diem in the '70s, and have usually been either in that pay setup or working jobs where the wages were a base rate, and there was more if you applied yourself, which I did.
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Re: Here’s What the US Minimum Wage Was the Year You Were Born
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2024, 07:50:35 pm »
In fact it is no different now - the robber barons still exist.
All it does is remove jobs from those at the very bottom. I would employ someone tomorrow to mow my yard and square up the place - but not at the price of a professional service, nor at the cost of hiring domestic help, to include all the insurances that go with that.

So some poor bastard, down on his luck, will go without, and the work will be left wanting.

It may remove a few jobs at the very bottom, but it also removes a lot of the asymmetry at the bottom and establishes a set of brightline rules that make transacting more efficient, not less.

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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2024, 08:54:20 pm »
It may remove a few jobs at the very bottom, but it also removes a lot of the asymmetry at the bottom and establishes a set of brightline rules that make transacting more efficient, not less.

The bottom is supposed to be asymmetric. It's desperate. Removing asymmetry is removing opportunity...

And the same goes, by the way, for startup businesses that are levered out of labor because of the insane costs in hiring and initial hiring. The cost of entry into the market is colored by the minimum wage, even in more typical environments (like construction).

Many, many job makers do without, and that trend is damning.

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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2024, 08:57:30 pm »
IF I get back on my feet, and I can take another swing, I can guarantee it will be something I can do by myself. I will never hire another employee again.

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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2024, 10:19:54 pm »
It is nonsense.  Laissez faire was a disaster, except for the robber barons.

Who says I have to deal with a robber baron?  I can deal with whomever I want for whatever I can get.  That's 'laissez faire'.  The only thing keeping us from double-digit growth rates right now is government.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2024, 10:23:44 pm »
This is what the minimum wage does.  It creates an artificial floor that is above the point of equilibrium resulting in unskilled workers unable to find a job.

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2024, 10:47:09 pm »
Why do we have a minimum wage?

To make all the cry-baby lazy bums feel better.

More money, less work.  That is the communist motto.

BTW, get rid of this (price control) minimum wage and the illegal alien problem goes away too.
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2024, 02:45:25 am »
To make all the cry-baby lazy bums feel better.

More money, less work.  That is the communist motto.

BTW, get rid of this (price control) minimum wage and the illegal alien problem goes away too.
The real crybaby lazy bums get low level government jobs with stupendous benefits and job security.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2024, 09:40:09 am »
The only way to fix the Marxist income tax system is to get rid of it and go back to the kind of taxes universally endorsed by our founders. Taxes on articles of consumption only.

https://fairtax.org/
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2024, 09:57:23 am »
Countries like Sweden, Iceland, Switzerland, and a few other countries that the leftist insist  that we need to become like,  do not have a federally mandated minimum wage. Yet, they’re not wallowing in poverty
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2024, 05:38:37 pm »
Why do we have a minimum wage?

To oppress black people. That's why it was created in the first place.

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