This is the size of Kamala Harris’s crowd in Arizona. Can anyone explain why she’s become so popular

[LMAO]

Suddenly crowd size matters.  How odd.

Not for the election. Most voters don’t attend political rallies

But the true believers do. And those are people who are dedicated to vote for the candidate

People see the world through the prism of their own viewpoint. Few here don’t believe the voters could vote for someone like Harris but who thought someone like BHO could win. Twice. With over 50% of the popular vote

When I told the Mrs in 2008 that he would win, she couldn’t believe it. But I suppose it’s the same with the left. They can’t believe anybody would vote for Trump

[LMAO]

I don't know what the big thing is about rally size. In 2020 Biden only has a few (very laughable) rallies...if you could call them that which drew flies, while Trump drew thousands to his rallies. Biden spent most of the 2020 campaign in his basement eating ice-cream cones.
Who won the election?

I don’t know why people here are surprised at the crowds at her rallies compared to Hillary and especially Biden. She’s fairly young, female, minority, and very much on the left of the political spectrum. Of course she was going to ignite her Democrat base. A white old man who has dementia and doesn’t really know what he’s for unless instructed didn’t fire up the Democrat base

The left does the same thing with Trump’s crowd sizes as people here are doing with Harris’s. I know. I also like to lurk  on their forums. I’ve been doing it since 2004.  Why is it so hard for people to accept that  Harris and Trump have a large following?

[corbe]

    Move America Forward ~ 2024

          Blowjob or Snowjob

[LMAO]

    Move America Forward ~ 2024

          Blowjob or Snowjob

That might explain the large attendance at her rallies

[Hoodat]

Better question, is who stole the election??

The people who hate Trump so much, they would do anything to see him lose.  Again.

Yet the Charlie Brown Republicans step right back up to kick that same football without doing a damn thing to fix it.

2020




2024



And Republicans will bitch for another four years how the election was stolen while the Trump zealots drive every last Conservative out of the GOP.

[Sighlass]

She's a younger Bernie Sanders in a jumpsuit... but just as communist and committed to tearing America apart.

[jafo2010]

mystery-ak...
Kamala's strategy:

1. Fake crowds (free concerts and paid actors)

2. Fake polls (oversampling Democrats)

3. Fake voters (Illegal immigrants)

You left out one major point:

4.  Alter ones and zeroes election night for Harris to win Electoral College

5.  Fix down elections to provide majority in at least one Congressional house.

[jafo2010]

The reason for the excitement over Harris is simple.  She replaced an old senile man, dead from the neck up.  She may be dumber than he was, but she can spew forth her word salad, and is not mumbling and addled.

Plus, they have to build the appearance of her competing so that when they fix the election, the general population can buy what they are being sold.

[goatprairie]

Better question, is who stole the election??

Nobody. Trump legitimately lost. It's been close to four years, and all the attempts by loyal Trumpsters to prove fraud have failed miserably. The only person who has been trying to steal the election has been Trump and his minions.
Next question.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

And Republicans will bitch for another four years how the election was stolen while the Trump zealots drive every last Conservative out of the GOP.

The real problem electorally isn't the relatively small number of conservatives who will stay at home.  It's the much larger number of swing voters who either won't vote, or will vote for Kamala.   And those are the critical votes essential for winning that Trump has been alienating.

Obviously, if he's also losing some conservatives, that makes it even work.

[Smokin Joe]

Nobody. Trump legitimately lost. It's been close to four years, and all the attempts by loyal Trumpsters to prove fraud have failed miserably. The only person who has been trying to steal the election has been Trump and his minions.
Next question.

It's pretty damned difficult to get adjudication when no one even looks at the evidence. I did not vote for Trump the first time around and am almost to the hold my nose and vote to defeat Harris point, but I watched the totals shift, jump and even go down (for Trump), and we all saw the skullduggery of papering over windows so no one could watch, observers told there was a water main break, and the improbability of districts voting 100% for Biden. That does not consider the illegal ballot harvesting, 'mule' deliveries, the truckload brought in from NY to PA, multiple counts of the same ballots, ballots in excess of the number of registered voters, fractional votes, people being informed they had voted by mail when they showed up to vote in person, etc. etc. etc.
It didn't take many, in many states (5 states, and the total 'margin of victory' was under 250,000 votes). All they had to do was fill in the void, and those ballot images, verification signatures, and records As well as ballots themselves were destroyed or 'lost' despite the legal mandate to preserve them.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

How is telling people all elections are rigged supposed to get people out to vote? If elections are rigged, why even bother to vote?

[LMAO]

The real problem electorally isn't the relatively small number of conservatives who will stay at home.  It's the much larger number of swing voters who either won't vote, or will vote for Kamala.   And those are the critical votes essential for winning that Trump has been alienating.

Obviously, if he's also losing some conservatives, that makes it even work.

Oh no, no, no you’re wrong

Why I was just instructed on this here forum on another thread that Donald Trump doesn’t need those votes because there’s all these Democrats that are  coming out for him on election night

Thats nonsense to everybody else in the world, but to his base, it makes sense. 

Let’s take Minnesota for example. I grew up in St. Louis County Minnesota, and I was raised not very far from the Iron Range. These are blue collar, working class conservative Democrat as you can get.

Now let’s compare another MAGA fantasy to the reality

From 2020

Hibbing, Minn. – Despite unprecedented attention from the president's campaign this year, Iron Range voters were not swayed.
St. Louis County as a whole backed Joe Biden by a 16-point margin. The county went to Hillary Clinton by a 12-point margin in 2016.
On the Iron Range — a frequent topic of President Donald Trump's speeches in his Minnesota visits this year — Republicans continued to seek out longtime DFL voters and split a formerly dependable bloc of labor votes. Yet several Range cities whose mayors endorsed Trump — like Chisholm, Eveleth and Virginia — sent more votes to Biden than Trump on Tuesday night.
.

https://www.startribune.com/despite-attention-trump-gained-little-ground-on-iron-range/572965372

I guess I can’t just blame this all on Trump and his MAGA movement. They’re the end result of a long process of a party that no longer has any imagination


The battles now are over crowd size, who is copying whose stupid economic policies, and still fighting over the 2020 election and using 2016 presidential and 2022 midterm campaign strategies




Do people ever think that may be the voters have Trump fatigue? He was 1/2 of a rematch campaign that voters didn’t want. The other half of that stepped aside


The Republican Party is going to need to do some serious soul-searching. Trump‘s loss should not be an excuse for the GOP to go back to the Bush years.

[mountaineer]

https://twitter.com/mommyrn88/status/1822693635437297900

[Hoodat]

How is telling people all elections are rigged supposed to get people out to vote? If elections are rigged, why even bother to vote?

Exactly.

[Hoodat]

The real problem electorally isn't the relatively small number of conservatives who will stay at home.  It's the much larger number of swing voters who either won't vote, or will vote for Kamala.   And those are the critical votes essential for winning that Trump has been alienating.

But hey, he beat DeSantis.  And he beat Cruz.  We have had that rubbed in our faces ad nauseum by the zealots as if this was a pinnacle achievement.  Yet when he lost in 2020, us Cruz supporters were the ones who got blamed.  Same will happen in 2024 should Trump lose.  Somehow it is our fault that Trump had no ground game, no local support, and no desire to fix what is clearly broken.

Yes, the Dems will do everything possible to steal the election.  And Trump has NO ONE at the State level working to prevent it.

[Kamaji]

But hey, he beat DeSantis.  And he beat Cruz.  We have had that rubbed in our faces ad nauseum by the zealots as if this was a pinnacle achievement.  Yet when he lost in 2020, us Cruz supporters were the ones who got blamed.  Same will happen in 2024 should Trump lose.  Somehow it is our fault that Trump had no ground game, no local support, and no desire to fix what is clearly broken.

Yes, the Dems will do everything possible to steal the election.  And Trump has NO ONE at the State level working to prevent it.

Sad but true.

[Hoodat]

Nobody. Trump legitimately lost. It's been close to four years, and all the attempts by loyal Trumpsters to prove fraud have failed miserably.

@goatprairie

I can only speak for Georgia, but it is an undeniable fact that enough illegal votes were cast in Georgia to sway the election towards Biden, Ossoff, and Warnock.  Rules were not followed.  Laws were broken.  Software was changed.  Ballots were double-counted.  Chain of custody rules were not followed.  Signature verifications were not followed.  People were allowed to register to vote by mail.  Mailboxes across the State were flooded with unsolicited mail-in ballots that anyone could use.  Counties were still accepting ballots four days after the election.  And votes without a corresponding ballot were added to the results total.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

It's pretty damned difficult to get adjudication when no one even looks at the evidence. I did not vote for Trump the first time around and am almost to the hold my nose and vote to defeat Harris point, but I watched the totals shift, jump and even go down (for Trump), and we all saw the skullduggery of papering over windows so no one could watch, observers told there was a water main break, and the improbability of districts voting 100% for Biden. That does not consider the illegal ballot harvesting, 'mule' deliveries, the truckload brought in from NY to PA, multiple counts of the same ballots, ballots in excess of the number of registered voters, fractional votes, people being informed they had voted by mail when they showed up to vote in person, etc. etc. etc.
It didn't take many, in many states (5 states, and the total 'margin of victory' was under 250,000 votes). All they had to do was fill in the void, and those ballot images, verification signatures, and records As well as ballots themselves were destroyed or 'lost' despite the legal mandate to preserve them.

I think the argument you make is a much better one than "Trump won".  It's saying "there are enough problems with the election that we cannot be sure who really won".

I wish that's the angle they would have pushed.

[Kamaji]

I think the argument you make is a much better one than "Trump won".  It's saying "there are enough problems with the election that we cannot be sure who really won".

I wish that's the angle they would have pushed.

Exactly.  And that is the big problem with all of the measures the democraps keep pushing:  they prevent auditing and accountability for elections.

[libertybele]

How is telling people all elections are rigged supposed to get people out to vote? If elections are rigged, why even bother to vote?

I've asked myself that question a couple of times.  I vote because it is my right and my duty and I do have a slight glimmer of hope that someway somehow we will have a relatively fair election.

[Fishrrman]

Hoodat wrote (in a good post):
"I can only speak for Georgia, but it is an undeniable fact that enough illegal votes were cast in Georgia to sway the election towards Biden, Ossoff, and Warnock.  Rules were not followed.  Laws were broken.  Software was changed.  Ballots were double-counted.  Chain of custody rules were not followed.  Signature verifications were not followed.  People were allowed to register to vote by mail.  Mailboxes across the State were flooded with unsolicited mail-in ballots that anyone could use.  Counties were still accepting ballots four days after the election.  And votes without a corresponding ballot were added to the results total."

Fishrrman:
Comrade Hoodat -- you have just had an excellent lesson in how The Party's underground and above-ground apparatus WORKS.

What do you think you're really going to change this time around...?

[cato potatoe]

Denial, thy name is MAGA

[LMAO]

Denial, thy name is MAGA

His internal polling must suck

He’s psychologically falling apart. This, along with his fantasy of Biden re entering the race, has discombobulated him. This is an evidence free rant


No. It is not unconstitutional for a party to replace its nominee.

[banddag]

CNN just showed camera action and it was that packed.
Maga/Trump  better not underestimate this woman