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One of America’s Hottest Entertainment Apps Is Chinese-Owned
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SINGAPORE—It is a chatbot offering AI-generated conversations with Donald Trump, Taylor Swift or a customized romantic partner. It is one of America’s more popular entertainment apps. And unnoticed by many users, it is Chinese-owned.

The English-language app is called Talkie, launched around a year ago. The fine print traces its ownership roots to a Singapore firm. But its ultimate parent company according to people familiar with the startup is Shanghai-based MiniMax—one of China’s tech unicorns that are often called the “Four Little AI Dragons.”

Through June, Talkie ranks No. 5 among the most-downloaded free entertainment apps in the U.S., according to Sensor Tower, a market researcher. That ranking puts it behind the likes of Warner Bros. Discovery’s “Max,” Netflix and Tubi.

David Jennings, a 20-year-old college student in Boston, said he spends time on Talkie conversing with a woman named “Alyssa.” The biography of the stock character, who is an Asian female, calls attention to traits such as a love for wearing “tight black jeans” and harboring a secret crush on the user. Jennings said the chats can turn romantic.

“No one in real life will be so warm to you,” he said, noting he was surprised—though not uncomfortable—about Talkie’s Chinese roots. ...
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Re: One of America’s Hottest Entertainment Apps Is Chinese-Owned
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2024, 09:24:14 am »
Talkie Gains Popularity in the US: Analysts Warn of CCP's Unrestricted Warfare Tactics

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2024, 01:54:55 pm »
First it was sex dolls, now they have online AI dolls to talk dirty to.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2024, 02:02:06 pm »
First it was sex dolls, now they have online AI dolls to talk dirty to.
How pathetic is that. People spending their time talking to fake humans.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2024, 03:16:39 pm »
How pathetic is that. People spending their time talking to fake humans.

Do you think 'posters' on these chat boards are real?

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2024, 03:26:00 pm »
Organic stupidity will cancel out artificial intelligence ... until SkyNet comes online.

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Re: One of America’s Hottest Entertainment Apps Is Chinese-Owned
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2024, 03:41:52 pm »
Do you think 'posters' on these chat boards are real?

I was never really here.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2024, 05:02:54 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2024, 05:29:19 pm »
Do you think 'posters' on these chat boards are real?
I am. Maybe.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2024, 07:32:11 pm »
And tomorrow, we will arrive at the Cherry 2000 days, where a robot will provide all the needs a man needs, and the reverse for women.  No more interaction between humans.

When Melanie Griffith put herself out there letting the guy know she was interested in him at the end of the movie, he basically made it clear, he only wanted to be with his Cherry 2000 robot.

That is where we are headed.  Great way to depopulate the planet when people are preferring robots over human contact.

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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2024, 08:07:12 pm »
And tomorrow, we will arrive at the Cherry 2000 days, where a robot will provide all the needs a man needs, and the reverse for women.  No more interaction between humans.

When Melanie Griffith put herself out there letting the guy know she was interested in him at the end of the movie, he basically made it clear, he only wanted to be with his Cherry 2000 robot.

That is where we are headed.  Great way to depopulate the planet when people are preferring robots over human contact.


Do those robots clean their own 'love holes'?

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2024, 08:12:57 pm »
It just goes to prove there is no substitute for real human, face to face, in person, conversation.
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Re: One of America’s Hottest Entertainment Apps Is Chinese-Owned
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2024, 08:48:18 pm »
The way I am fixin to go off is gonna sound weird in this thread, but stick with me...

I started listening to Hank FM again... That I did is not so surprising, but why I did is more to the point.

Modernity has made 'self' the highest order. When it comes to music, I can have exactly what I like - Not just Country music, not even just particular stars in that genre, not a particular album... but right down to the particular songs.

I don't have to put up with a single thing that is jarring to my play... It's all good, and only good, as good is accorded by me. But the problem lies in the rut - BECAUSE I listen only to what I want, I miss out on anything new.

I made a similar complaint wrt popsicles of all things, just a while back... I can get crappy twin pops in an 18 count bag for under 3 bucks - And if I go down to the Rosauers,  I can get that 18 pack in particular flavors...

The popsicle nirvana is a bag of root beer popsicles and a bag of banana popsicles - I will never have to even look at a blue one or a green one - Both of which are only good for throwing at people.

But here's the thing - The value of a banana popsicle or a root beer one is greatly dimininshed when it is so easy to come by. If I go get a regular bag of flavors Banana is dang hard to come by - You may only have one or two in a whole bag... And root beer is nigh on impossible to come by You'd be lucky to run into one every 90 days or so in regular popsicle consumption.

I guess I am saying there is something valuable in putting up with something you don't necessarily want in that the thing you want, when you get it, is far more precious.

I think that applies to relationships too - An AI that can read you, and only supply the things that !YOU! want is entirely internal - selfish - With no need to compromise, no oddball shit to put up with...

That LOOKS better to start with, but there can be no growth from it... Beause that real life woman will shape you like nothing else. She will give you more to put up with every day than anyone else, BECAUSE she is your woman... And BECAUSE of her, you will need to stretch yourself into being things you would never otherwise be. THAT is what love is. Selfless, not selfish.

Something to ponder.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2024, 10:44:14 pm »
The way I am fixin to go off is gonna sound weird in this thread, but stick with me...

I started listening to Hank FM again... That I did is not so surprising, but why I did is more to the point.

Modernity has made 'self' the highest order. When it comes to music, I can have exactly what I like - Not just Country music, not even just particular stars in that genre, not a particular album... but right down to the particular songs.

I don't have to put up with a single thing that is jarring to my play... It's all good, and only good, as good is accorded by me. But the problem lies in the rut - BECAUSE I listen only to what I want, I miss out on anything new.

I made a similar complaint wrt popsicles of all things, just a while back... I can get crappy twin pops in an 18 count bag for under 3 bucks - And if I go down to the Rosauers,  I can get that 18 pack in particular flavors...

The popsicle nirvana is a bag of root beer popsicles and a bag of banana popsicles - I will never have to even look at a blue one or a green one - Both of which are only good for throwing at people.

But here's the thing - The value of a banana popsicle or a root beer one is greatly dimininshed when it is so easy to come by. If I go get a regular bag of flavors Banana is dang hard to come by - You may only have one or two in a whole bag... And root beer is nigh on impossible to come by You'd be lucky to run into one every 90 days or so in regular popsicle consumption.

I guess I am saying there is something valuable in putting up with something you don't necessarily want in that the thing you want, when you get it, is far more precious.

I think that applies to relationships too - An AI that can read you, and only supply the things that !YOU! want is entirely internal - selfish - With no need to compromise, no oddball shit to put up with...

That LOOKS better to start with, but there can be no growth from it... Beause that real life woman will shape you like nothing else. She will give you more to put up with every day than anyone else, BECAUSE she is your woman... And BECAUSE of her, you will need to stretch yourself into being things you would never otherwise be. THAT is what love is. Selfless, not selfish.

Something to ponder.
All of that, and this:

I have met and spoken with folks from floor scrubbers and ditch diggers and folks who were convicts (or on their way to that), to Governors and Nobel Prize winners.

They ALL had something in common. They knew more about something than I did. Whether it was a 'trick' to get a mirror streakless clean, to run a big floor buffer without wrasslin' it, or some insight into government or a fine point of chemistry or geology I'd missed, EVERY one of them knew more about something than I did.

I don't care how smart someone thinks they are, that's a mite humbling, but it also represents as many opportunities to learn something new as you meet people.

Even if I don't agree with someone's politics/worldview/'choices'/religion, if we can set all that aside for a moment, or even discuss those differences civilly (after all, those are their choices, and they make them for them, I make mine for me and each lives accordingly), there is a chance to learn something.
And when you meet those special folks who agree with you on so many levels that you connect, even  better.
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Re: One of America’s Hottest Entertainment Apps Is Chinese-Owned
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2024, 04:29:26 pm »
All of that, and this:

I have met and spoken with folks from floor scrubbers and ditch diggers and folks who were convicts (or on their way to that), to Governors and Nobel Prize winners.

They ALL had something in common. They knew more about something than I did. Whether it was a 'trick' to get a mirror streakless clean, to run a big floor buffer without wrasslin' it, or some insight into government or a fine point of chemistry or geology I'd missed, EVERY one of them knew more about something than I did.

I don't care how smart someone thinks they are, that's a mite humbling, but it also represents as many opportunities to learn something new as you meet people.

Even if I don't agree with someone's politics/worldview/'choices'/religion, if we can set all that aside for a moment, or even discuss those differences civilly (after all, those are their choices, and they make them for them, I make mine for me and each lives accordingly), there is a chance to learn something.
And when you meet those special folks who agree with you on so many levels that you connect, even  better.


That's right -  and a hard admission from me, as I am, in the first place, a grumpy old bastard, and more importantly an introvert most all my life.  I find great peace and normalcy in solitude, be that in my housebound end (so far), or walking high trails where no human ever goes.

But even as I say that, there is a gregarious side of me that oft goes wanting. My woman was the one charged with draggin me, kicking and screaming, to family functions and community events. Outside of the car show in Spokane, various rodeos and rondys, and the 4th of July, I really would have little to do with human company. It was her. She did that. And when I got there I always had a good time.

I remember the last function I went to - It;s been a while now, but the dragon boat races down in lakeside - And that also was a woman draggin me there. I had such a good time.

There is a thing there... IRL. Human contact.

I know you pretty well @Smokin Joe . We've corresponded for year and years. But all of that amounts to about what we'd get done in some crappy bar over beers in a single episode.... And so much data is missing - The gestures you make; the inflection of your speech; the facial expressions as you tell your tales; The smell of the place; the music in the background; the snappy retorts of the waitress..

Or maybe out fishin. Or maybe just on the back porch over sweet tea... The where doesn't matter. All that would be wrapped around the conversation. All that making that time memorable, even without your drunk BIL lighting himself on fire at the grill, or a thousand other things that might happen just right out of the blue.

I might recall what you said - Like the other day when you said something like:

Life man.
Get hammered.
Buy a keg.
Nailed it.

But that was deep man... Of course I remembered it, every word.  :laugh:
But how much better with all that missing data?

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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2024, 06:05:28 pm »

That's right -  and a hard admission from me, as I am, in the first place, a grumpy old bastard, and more importantly an introvert most all my life.  I find great peace and normalcy in solitude, be that in my housebound end (so far), or walking high trails where no human ever goes.

But even as I say that, there is a gregarious side of me that oft goes wanting. My woman was the one charged with draggin me, kicking and screaming, to family functions and community events. Outside of the car show in Spokane, various rodeos and rondys, and the 4th of July, I really would have little to do with human company. It was her. She did that. And when I got there I always had a good time.

I remember the last function I went to - It;s been a while now, but the dragon boat races down in lakeside - And that also was a woman draggin me there. I had such a good time.

There is a thing there... IRL. Human contact.

I know you pretty well @Smokin Joe . We've corresponded for year and years. But all of that amounts to about what we'd get done in some crappy bar over beers in a single episode.... And so much data is missing - The gestures you make; the inflection of your speech; the facial expressions as you tell your tales; The smell of the place; the music in the background; the snappy retorts of the waitress..

Or maybe out fishin. Or maybe just on the back porch over sweet tea... The where doesn't matter. All that would be wrapped around the conversation. All that making that time memorable, even without your drunk BIL lighting himself on fire at the grill, or a thousand other things that might happen just right out of the blue.

I might recall what you said - Like the other day when you said something like:

Life man.
Get hammered.
Buy a keg.
Nailed it.

But that was deep man... Of course I remembered it, every word.  :laugh:
But how much better with all that missing data?
Yep.

Here, you get a somewhat Bowdlerized version of me.

An unfortunate talent I refined in my early oil patch days is the ability to cuss a blue streak when inspired, like when the suckheaded AI called me up the 'inquire' about a prescription I'm not yet taking (due for a refill), and woke me up. (strike one.) Then it wanted me to identify myself by my birth year, and 'didn't understand me' (strike two), and then got pushy trying to wrangle me into some in house pharmacy (strike three, yer out!).
If it really records the conversation for "training purposes" (yeah, right, it's a machine) I'm sure it caught the leading edge of me saying just what I thought of having a damned machine call me and wake me up, act like I'm an idiot because IT didn't understand plain English, and then try to sell me a service I didn't request, but i guess that's what you get when you crossbreed QC failed computer parts with cheap Chinese alarm clocks and call it AI.  Either have a human on there, or send me something in the mail. Grrrr. 

And I write a mite more formally than I speak, although I'm trying to get over that.

Yes, smells, gestures, expressions, and sounds not easily put into print all factor into communication, so this is a limited venue compared to sittin' on the porch and having a glass of tea or a cup of coffee and chewin' the fat. Besides, you can't see how the critters react to folks on here, and that means something, too.
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Re: One of America’s Hottest Entertainment Apps Is Chinese-Owned
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2024, 05:28:28 pm »
Yep.

Here, you get a somewhat Bowdlerized version of me.

An unfortunate talent I refined in my early oil patch days is the ability to cuss a blue streak when inspired, like when the suckheaded AI called me up the 'inquire' about a prescription I'm not yet taking (due for a refill), and woke me up. (strike one.) Then it wanted me to identify myself by my birth year, and 'didn't understand me' (strike two), and then got pushy trying to wrangle me into some in house pharmacy (strike three, yer out!).
If it really records the conversation for "training purposes" (yeah, right, it's a machine) I'm sure it caught the leading edge of me saying just what I thought of having a damned machine call me and wake me up, act like I'm an idiot because IT didn't understand plain English, and then try to sell me a service I didn't request, but i guess that's what you get when you crossbreed QC failed computer parts with cheap Chinese alarm clocks and call it AI.  Either have a human on there, or send me something in the mail. Grrrr. 

And I write a mite more formally than I speak, although I'm trying to get over that.

Yes, smells, gestures, expressions, and sounds not easily put into print all factor into communication, so this is a limited venue compared to sittin' on the porch and having a glass of tea or a cup of coffee and chewin' the fat. Besides, you can't see how the critters react to folks on here, and that means something, too.

Likewise, nearly all the way around  :laugh: :beer:

But without a woman I grow shaggy, and the lawns and flowerbeds around my honor tend to brambles... Mamma tried to keep up with all that for a while, but it ain't a thing I find a natural need to maintain, so it will undoubtedly go wanting.

I can affect a genteel nature, but my cowboy ways - which always make a genteel space if a woman is around - Have pretty much been eclipsed by my hillbilly side, where at least around here, even the grammas can cuss a blue streak that would make a sailor blush... So I figger I would not be shocked by the language around oil riggers, and would probably be right at home.

I write about exactly like I talk, with a propensity to ramble and bulshalate, and forever littered with redneck colloquialism, which I find to be colorful and descriptive.... If anything, that is shortened by the lack of ease in writing - I probably go on way worse on the porch, because I can.

I find that to be kindred in you btw -  an easy use of a vast vocabulary, without the putting on of airs. I admire that.  :beer: