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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/30/project-2025-director-paul-dans-leaves-heritage-foundation/

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The right-wing policy operation that became a rallying cry for Democrats and a nuisance for Republican nominee Donald Trump is trying to escape the public spotlight and repair relations with Trump’s campaign.

Project 2025, a collaboration led by the Heritage Foundation among more than 110 conservative groups to develop a movement consensus blueprint for the next Republican administration, is winding down its policy operations, and its director, former Trump administration personnel official Paul Dans, is departing. The Heritage Foundation also recently distributed new talking points encouraging participants to emphasize that the project does not speak for Trump.

The former president has repeatedly distanced himself from Project 2025 after relentless attacks from Democrats using some of the 900-page playbook’s more aggressive proposals to impute them to Trump’s agenda since many of the proposals were written by alumni of Trump’s White House. While some participants in the project started avoiding interviews and public appearances, Trump advisers grew furious that Heritage leaders continued promoting the project and feeding critical news coverage.

Trump senior adviser Susie Wiles repeatedly called Heritage leaders instructing them to stop promoting Project 2025. She and Trump strategist Chris LaCivita repeatedly wrote public statements disavowing the project, and then Trump started saying so in his own social media posts. More recently, LaCivita has started saying that people involved in the project would be barred from a second Trump administration.

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At least some Heritage employees are considering leaving the organization because they do not want to alienate a future Trump administration and hurt their future job prospects, according to a current employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to detail internal dynamics. While Heritage President Kevin Roberts has told people privately that the storm will blow over, employees have texted and messaged one another with dismay about the Trump campaign’s continued attacks on the organization.

“We are extremely grateful for [Dans’s] and everyone’s work on Project 2025 and dedication to saving America,” Roberts said in a statement. “Our collective efforts to build a personnel apparatus for policymakers of all levels — federal, state, and local — will continue.”

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If Trump is sooooo Conservative then why is he wrecking the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025, a Conservative plan for reforming and reducing the federal government?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/30/project-2025-director-paul-dans-leaves-heritage-foundation/

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If Trump is sooooo Conservative then why is he wrecking the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025, a Conservative plan for reforming and reducing the federal government?

Because he and his supporters are not interested in reducing the size of the federal government
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I thought at one point in time Trump stated that he knew nothing about Project 2025????

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Because he and his supporters are not interested in reducing the size of the federal government

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Project 2025 Director Steps Down Amid Trump Criticism

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/30/us/politics/project-2025-director-steps-down.html

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Others in Mr. Trump’s orbit have tried to create distance, too.

Lara Trump, the Republican National Committee co-chair and Mr. Trump’s daughter-in-law, spent part of her recent podcast bashing Project 2025. “There are a lot of ideas in here that I find really frightening,” Ms. Trump said, adding that anyone who supported the plan knew that it was a “hoax.”

Kinda says it all...so screw Trump, his campaign, and the RNC.   :pootrump:
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Trump knows Project 2025 is bad for poll numbers and bad for ratings.  He doesn't need to know what Project 2025 is nor what Project 2025 contains.
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What else do people expect from a guy who said this in 2016

“People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are crazy. This is the United States government," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you, OK?"
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What else do people expect from a guy who said this in 2016

People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are crazy. This is the United States government," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you, OK?"

...and you think the DEMS aren't going to continue to print money? 

I understand where you're coming from....but reality is... IMHO Trump will be better for the economy.

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...and you think the DEMS aren't going to continue to print money? 

Strawman


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Trump knows Project 2025 is bad for poll numbers and bad for ratings.  He doesn't need to know what Project 2025 is nor what Project 2025 contains.

Maybe the MAGA position is “ Trump may put us further in a potential debt crisis. But it’ll be our debt crisis” :silly:
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/30/project-2025-director-paul-dans-leaves-heritage-foundation/

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If Trump is sooooo Conservative then why is he wrecking the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025, a Conservative plan for reforming and reducing the federal government?

No complaints about the dozens of Democrats and dozens of Democrat ads which have been telling lies about Project 2025?  How typical of a Never Trumper, only ever complaining about what Trump does and never about what Democrats do. Interesting, isn't it?
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Debt is only a number in an accounting ledger.

It's the destruction of trust in the US Government, its bonds, and its currency that will make America into the new Zimbabwe.

The US dollar will no longer be a trusted store of wealth.  Americans without a trusted store of wealth (gold? silver? cans of spam?) will be destitute.  Americans will be emigrating to Mexico to find work.

Maybe the MAGA position is “ Trump may put us further in a potential debt crisis. But it’ll be our debt crisis” :silly:
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No complaints about the dozens of Democrats and dozens of Democrat ads which have been telling lies about Project 2025?  How typical of a Never Trumper, only ever complaining about what Trump does and never about what Democrats do. Interesting, isn't it?

“B-b-b-b but Democrats”

Read carefully. The subject is about how the Trump campaign is condemning it themselves

It’s a safe bet nobody here is voting Democrat. But it sucks balls when the only debate is which candidate is going to spend us into oblivion worse


There’s not even a token debate over how big the federal government has gotten
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“B-b-b-b but Democrats”

It’s a safe bet nobody here is voting Democrat. But it sucks balls when the only debate is which candidate is going to spend us into oblivion the least

*yawn* whatever, Never Trumper. When it comes to spending, I could point out that you have a chance with Trump and no chance with Democrats, but you won't hear it, so I won't bother.
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These are the same nitwits with the hubris to make a PowerPoint presentation to detail their January 6th putsch: https://www.arkansasonline.com/1212powerpoint/
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*yawn* whatever, Never Trumper. When it comes to spending, I could point out that you have a chance with Trump and no chance with Democrats, but you won't hear it, so I won't bother.

Really? You must have missed 2017-2020.


I could point out the times Trump fought Republicans who wanted a reduced COVID stimulus and sided with Democrats and even threatened to primary Massie over it but you won’t hear it so I won’t bother


Some of you forget Trump has a record. You have just as much of a chance of cutting spending under Trump as you do with Harris

The record backs that

Here ya go

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/27/donald-trump-throw-kentucky-rep-thomas-massie-out-gop/2924610001/




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Really? You must have missed 2017-2020.


I could point out the times Trump fought Republicans who wanted a reduced COVID stimulus and sided with Democrats and even threatened to primary Massie over it but you won’t hear it so I won’t bother


Some of you forget Trump has a record. You have just as much of a chance of cutting spending under Trump as you do with Harris

The record backs that

Really?  Did you forget the Congress passes the budget?  Oh, but it's always Trump's fault, never the Congress that passed the budget.

"Trump made us do it! Wahhh!" Sure, only Trump has power, everyone dances to his tune.

Never Trumpers are so predictable.
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So, all this butt hurt mean that you are all going to vote Democrat in November?  Or abstain??   :shrug:
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Really?  Did you forget the Congress passes the budget?  Oh, but it's always Trump's fault, never the Congress that passed the budget.

"Trump made us do it! Wahhh!" Sure, only Trump has power, everyone dances to his tune.

Never Trumpers are so predictable.

Yup

Never Trumps fault. Always someone else to blame. Never mind he was eager to sign them and even wanted his name on those checks
Congress made him do all that…..lol


Again…he has a record.

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Yup

Never Trumps fault. Always someone else to blame. Never mind he was eager to sign them and even wanted his name on those checks

OK, vote third party so you can feel good about yourself. It won't help anything, but at least you can still complain about everything. "Don't blame me, I voted third party!"  Or don't vote at all, what will it matter anyway, right?

I don't really care what you believe or what you do. I'm just tired of you Never Trumpers endlessly blaming Trump for everything that's gone wrong, and never blaming a Democrat.

Trump's campaign asked the Heritage Foundation to stop talking about Project 2025? Did you ever consider it might be because Democrats made the words "Project 2025" radioactive? Nahhh, it's entirely Trump's fault, everything is.

I'm done. Never Trumper's minds are impenetrable, nothing I say can change that.
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Congressional Republicans threw fiscal conservatism down the toilet when Bush #43 became President.

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Medicare pay for prescription drugs without HHS using a competitive procurement bidding process to use Adam Smith capitalist competition to drive down costs?  What a great fiscally conservative smaller Government idea!

Let's not nation build in Iraq and Afghanistan!  Let's not make the Middle East safe for Wilsonian interventionist American democracy!  Let's not bankrupt the Amercian domestic economy to fulfill this brilliant neo-con west dream!  What could possibly go wrong with Cheney's, Wolfowitz's, and Rumsfeld's plan?
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OK, vote third party so you can feel good about yourself. It won't help anything, but at least you can still complain about everything. "Don't blame me, I voted third party!"  Or don't vote at all, what will it matter anyway, right?

I don't really care what you believe or what you do. I'm just tired of you Never Trumpers endlessly blaming Trump for everything that's gone wrong, and never blaming a Democrat.

Trump's campaign asked the Heritage Foundation to stop talking about Project 2025? Did you ever consider it might be because Democrats made the words "Project 2025" radioactive? Nahhh, it's entirely Trump's fault, everything is.

I'm done. Never Trumper's minds are impenetrable, nothing I say can change that.


So Trump backed away from Project 2025 because the Democrats were mean to him?  Ok


He didn’t back away from it. He just does not believe in reducing spending or the size of the federal government. Fact.  Project 2025 conflicts with his governing philosophy. If he believed in it, he would defend it from Democrat attacks



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So Trump backed away from Project 2025 because the Democrats were mean to him?  Ok


He didn’t back away from it. He just does not believe in reducing spending or the size of the federal government. Fact.  If he believed in it, he would defend it from Democrat attacks

Typically stupid RNC thinking. "Oh nooeess, the Democrats are talking mean about Project 2025! I must defend it, even though it has nothing to do with my campaign!"

Don't let the Democrats define your campaign. Talk about your own issues, don't talk about what Democrats want to talk about. The Trump campaign didn't come up with Project 2025, so ignore it, brush it off, and keep talking about what you want to talk about. Anyone can see that's a sane strategy.

Anyone but a NeverTrumper.
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Typically stupid RNC thinking. "Oh nooeess, the Democrats are talking mean about Project 2025! I must defend it, even though it has nothing to do with my campaign!"

Don't let the Democrats define your campaign. Talk about your own issues, don't talk about what Democrats want to talk about. The Trump campaign didn't come up with Project 2025, so ignore it, brush it off, and keep talking about what you want to talk about. Anyone can see that's a sane strategy.

Anyone but a NeverTrumper.


That’s what I said. Trump is denouncing it because Project 2025 conflicts with his governing philosophy. That, and polls. 

If Trump is desperately trying to separate himself from it, then the Democrats have defined his campaign


Read the articles that @Timber Rattler posted. They are not just distancing themselves from it. They’re condemning it
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No complaints about the dozens of Democrats and dozens of Democrat ads which have been telling lies about Project 2025?  How typical of a Never Trumper, only ever complaining about what Trump does and never about what Democrats do. Interesting, isn't it?

Irrelevant.  Either you're a Conservative and openly stand for Conservative principles, ideas, and organizations, or you're not.  So I'm not playing that old lying hypocrisy game like most of Trump's supporters do.
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Really?  Did you forget the Congress passes the budget?  Oh, but it's always Trump's fault, never the Congress that passed the budget.

"Trump made us do it! Wahhh!" Sure, only Trump has power, everyone dances to his tune.

Never Trumpers are so predictable.

Yeah, we get it.  The buck never stops with Trump...heck it never even makes it to his desk apparently.
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