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Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« on: July 30, 2024, 01:39:58 am »
Sure seems that way. 

There were much better choices. 

One writer speculates that Trump did it to continue the legacy. 

The legacy of what ?  Getting our asses kicked ?

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2024, 01:56:43 am »
For Pete's sake, quit the handwringing already.

We knew that if Trump had chosen a Saint, he'd have caught Hell from the Left.
 
If he chose a 'sinner' by the Left's only version of sin (not kissing their rings and going yassuh, Boss, I doos it!) He was going to catch Hell.

If he chose someone who managed to cause traumatic abrasions to the Left's incredibly thin skin, well, all the better! Heavy breathing or a loud voice is enough to send them into either a meltdown or violent tantrum.

'Eff them!

No matter who Trump picked for a running mate, it would be something the Left would find some misquoted excuse to attack.

Unfortunately, at the present, if you don't want President Hahahahahahahaha!TM humming hail to the cheef (because she likely won't know the words), you can back the GOP candidates.

If you think your end of the world pantry, ammo supply, water well, and off grid bunker are sufficiently stocked (and they never are--buy extra TP), feel free to blow off the election, cave to the MSM onslaught, the bots on fecebook, the tiktok and other 'social(ist)' media and curl up in a fetal position and whine--or just hibernate for the next 4 years... You might not want to mess with them, but they will mess with you.

Enough already!

Our turn is coming...
Let's see what the Leftist elites have picked for the ticket.

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2024, 03:01:26 am »
Sure seems that way. 

There were much better choices. 

One writer speculates that Trump did it to continue the legacy. 

The legacy of what ?  Getting our asses kicked ?

Vance is mediocre, but he is only there because republicans were trolled into nominating Trump again.  Biden’s timely exit has left them in a precarious spot, with disaffected young and RFK voters going home to democrats.  Now the left only need a moderately successful convention and early vote drive to pull this off.

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2024, 03:39:43 am »
Vance is mediocre, but he is only there because republicans were trolled into nominating Trump again.  Biden’s timely exit has left them in a precarious spot, with disaffected young and RFK voters going home to democrats.  Now the left only need a moderately successful convention and early vote drive to pull this off.
RFK had one issue that appealed to the Right, namely on the way COVID was handled.

The rest of his shtick is hard Left. Anyone voting for RFK easn't going to cross the line into anything conservative, but the hope was that RFK Jr. would 'Perot' the Dem candidate.

We still don't know what is going to happen with that until it is official that Cackles gets the nod.

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2024, 05:24:18 am »
I do not think he will ruin the ticket.  I do believe there were better, stronger choices.  Vance meets the stereotype for folks landing as VP, that being someone who will not steal the shine.

Worst case, Trump would have been wise to pick a VP that helped with the Electoral process, someone from a state that is a coin toss, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, or Virginia.

Youngkin would have made a great pick to help pick up Virginia.

But maybe I am wrong, for when was the last time a VP candidate was picked to win a particular state?  Johnson with JFK?

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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2024, 08:55:40 am »
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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2024, 09:40:33 am »
He just needs to STFU about childless couples.

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2024, 10:09:54 am »
Youngkin would have made a great pick to help pick up Virginia.

I really like the governor, but disagree with this.  Youngkin brings nothing to a national ticket, at least this year.  And, he doesn't need to be on the ticket to help bring in VA ---- he is already focused and working hard to make this happen.

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2024, 10:18:58 am »
Worst case, Trump would have been wise to pick a VP that helped with the Electoral process, someone from a state that is a coin toss, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, or Virginia.

Trump was wise.  He selected a running mate who connects with the voters in these states ---- hence the urgency among democrats to damage Vance.

What continues to astonish me is democrats just have to get the ball rolling against Vance, and still Republicans of a certain persuasion will pick up that ball and run with it ----   

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2024, 10:21:08 am »
He just needs to STFU about childless couples.
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He already had.  Republicans keep breathing life into the story.

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2024, 10:34:02 am »
"Cat lady" has been a part of our lexicon since the mid-90s, and its meaning well established ever since

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2024, 10:57:09 am »

No matter who Trump picked for a running mate, it would be something the Left would find some misquoted excuse to attack.

The problem is they aren't misquotes.   They can literally show Vance himself saying the words in question.  There's no taking out of context, there's no misrepresentation.   It's just flat out what he said, and still stands by.

If they were misquotes, we could call them out as liars, show the correct version of what he actually said, etc..  But...he said it.

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2024, 10:58:30 am »
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He already had.  Republicans keep breathing life into the story.

Which Republicans are the ones breathing life into the story nationally?  Because Democrats are the ones literally running ads about it.

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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2024, 11:14:41 am »
What MAGA VP pick would be spared the slings and arrows of lamestream liberal media vivisection?

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2024, 11:16:45 am »
For Pete's sake, quit the handwringing already.

We knew that if Trump had chosen a Saint, he'd have caught Hell from the Left.
 
If he chose a 'sinner' by the Left's only version of sin (not kissing their rings and going yassuh, Boss, I doos it!) He was going to catch Hell.

If he chose someone who managed to cause traumatic abrasions to the Left's incredibly thin skin, well, all the better! Heavy breathing or a loud voice is enough to send them into either a meltdown or violent tantrum.

'Eff them!

No matter who Trump picked for a running mate, it would be something the Left would find some misquoted excuse to attack.

Unfortunately, at the present, if you don't want President Hahahahahahahaha!TM humming hail to the cheef (because she likely won't know the words), you can back the GOP candidates.

If you think your end of the world pantry, ammo supply, water well, and off grid bunker are sufficiently stocked (and they never are--buy extra TP), feel free to blow off the election, cave to the MSM onslaught, the bots on fecebook, the tiktok and other 'social(ist)' media and curl up in a fetal position and whine--or just hibernate for the next 4 years... You might not want to mess with them, but they will mess with you.

Enough already!

Our turn is coming...
Let's see what the Leftist elites have picked for the ticket.

We have not yet begun to fight!

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2024, 11:40:57 am »
Which Republicans are the ones breathing life into the story nationally?  Because Democrats are the ones literally running ads about it.

Which will intensify come September

This will shape up to be a campaign were both sides just simply point out the stupid things that their opponents have said.


I make no predictions of what will happen this November. But Kamala does excite the Democrat base in a way that Biden did not and was not going to.

She will be Donald Trump’s toughest opponent
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2024, 12:42:20 pm »
Both chambers of Ohio’s state  legislature and governorship are under GOP control

Yet, JD Vance performed worse in 2022, than all other Republicans running in the state

In Pennsylvania, the Democrats control one chamber of the legislature and governorship

In Michigan, 100% blue under Whitmer

In my own state of Wisconsin, the GOP controls both chambers but the Democrats have the governorship

Minnesota? Forget it. It’s under DFL control now but it does have a history of being more divided in the past

If JD Vance underperforms comparably to other Republicans in his own state that solidly red, its doubtful he’ll fare any better in the states listed above
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2024, 11:19:29 pm »
Both chambers of Ohio’s state  legislature and governorship are under GOP control

Yet, JD Vance performed worse in 2022, than all other Republicans running in the state

My state, and it was the first election in which I didn't vote for a Republican in a Congressional race.  Couldn't stand Vance's populist prattle, so I abstained.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2024, 11:25:04 pm »
My state, and it was the first election in which I didn't vote for a Republican in a Congressional race.  Couldn't stand Vance's populist prattle, so I abstained.

Why did he perform worse than the other GOP candidates? Was it the MAGA label?
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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2024, 11:39:21 pm »
Ohio Elections - 2022

Governor
DeWine  -  2,528,018  -  62.8%

Attorney General
David Yost  -  2,434,350  -  60.4%

Secretary of State
Frank LaRose  -  2,395,434  -  59.5%

US Senate
JD Vance  -  2,147,898  -  53.3%


15% of the people voting for DeWine chose not to vote for Vance.
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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2024, 11:43:27 pm »
I really like the governor, but disagree with this.  Youngkin brings nothing to a national ticket, at least this year.  And, he doesn't need to be on the ticket to help bring in VA ---- he is already focused and working hard to make this happen.

So what is Trump doing different this time to win a State he lost the last two times he ran?
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2024, 03:29:20 am »
Sadly, Trump is following the exact same strategy that cost him the election in 2020.

In 2016, he spoke repeatedly about what he would do for the people of the USA.  He is NOT doing that this time, did not do it in 2020.

People today tend to vote for people that answer the question to the electorate, "WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME?"

In 2016, Trump promised to end the H1-b Visa Program DAY ONE.  A few months in office, he met with tech billionaires, and he ended up increasing the numbers for the H1-b Visas.  A complete betrayal to the promise he made.  A promise NOT KEPT.

A few weeks ago, he again met with tech billionaires from Silicon Valley, and based on what they said after the meeting with Trump, I suspect he promised them he would increase the numbers again for H1-b Visa recipients.

So, for the USA citizens that remember the promise from 2016, particularly folks in the tech industry, it will cost him votes.  Trump did not remedy this issue in 2020.  He simply did not care.  He went before the people and claimed, PROMISES KEPT.  But they weren't.  We are talking about 1.6 million USA citizens displaced from their jobs so that cheap white collar labor could come largely from India.

So, what is he promising now?  Only not to be Biden, and now not to be Harris.  Half the country think they are great.  Either he wakes up and defines what he will do for the people of the USA, or he loses.  And if they fix the election again, he loses anyway.  To Harris, a totally worthless POS.

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Re: Is Vance Going to Ruin the Ticket
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2024, 11:46:04 am »
IMO there's been some momentum loss, which is worrisome IMO.

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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2024, 02:55:22 pm »
Tyrus, who is on with Greg Gutfeld regularly, said Trump is his biggest enemy.  Well, he was exactly right.

He is on right now being interviewed at the National Association of Black Journalists in Chicago, and his answers could not be worse.   Even Harris Faulkner, from Fox News was getting frustrated with Trump.  He got quite a few harsh questions.

Several of his answers were just plain dumb, talking about Harris claiming she was Indian and now claiming she is black.  Why would he even say these stupid things, knowing the liberal media will use it against him.  Ugggh.

Harris need not campaign and Trump may well defeat himself with his MOUTH!!!!

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2024, 04:19:45 pm »
Several of his answers were just plain dumb, talking about Harris claiming she was Indian and now claiming she is black.  Why would he even say these stupid things, knowing the liberal media will use it against him.  Ugggh.

Another opportunity to connect with new voters wasted.
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