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Vice President Kamala Harris
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The United States stands with the people of Venezuela who expressed their voice in today’s historic presidential election. The will of the Venezuelan people must be respected. Despite the many challenges, we will continue to work toward a more democratic, prosperous, and secure future for the people of Venezuela.



Such hollow words.....   I look forward to how the MSM asks her what she would do about it......  (uhhhh....nevermind)
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Does she side with Maduro or the opposition?
Oh never mind. It’s Kamala Harris
She probably thinks the "will of the people" was Maduro, despite his opponent getting over 60% of the vote.
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Unconfirmed:
Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has fled from the Miraflores Palace.

https://twitter.com/DMichaelTripi/status/1818244161801277462

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Unconfirmed:
Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has fled from the Miraflores Palace.mg width=400 height=303]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTu1V5jWAAANjIZ?format=jpg&name=small[/img]

Wow, how cool would this be if confirmed.  I hope they execute him on site. 
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Wow, how cool would this be if confirmed.  I hope they execute him on site.

Agree

If this turns out to be true, and Venezuela starts the march  away from its socialist policies, it can be a thriving country once again

Venezuela is an oil rich country. Chavez thought he could pay for all his social spending through oil revenues, but that failed spectacularly


I have my fingers crossed for the good people of Venezuela, who have suffered enough
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Agree

If this turns out to be true, and Venezuela starts the march  away from its socialist policies, it can be a thriving country once again

Venezuela is an oil rich country. Chavez thought he could pay for all his social spending through oil revenues, but that failed spectacularly


I have my fingers crossed for the good people of Venezuela, who have suffered enough

I know several people who spent most of their working lives in Venezuela before Chavez showed up. It was a great place to live and work back then.
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Agree

If this turns out to be true, and Venezuela starts the march  away from its socialist policies, it can be a thriving country once again

Venezuela is an oil rich country. Chavez thought he could pay for all his social spending through oil revenues, but that failed spectacularly


I have my fingers crossed for the good people of Venezuela, who have suffered enough
Oil rich doesn't cover it, quite. They have the largest oil reserves of any nation, even if it is low gravity (heavy) high sulfur crude.
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Unconfirmed:
Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has fled from the Miraflores Palace.


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Catfish says:
"I hope they execute him on site."

Anwhere on the street will do.
ceausecu-style:


This will really depend on what the army and local police chiefs do...
« Last Edit: July 30, 2024, 04:29:49 pm by Fishrrman »

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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Sounds like all hell is going to break lose down there. 

While the White House is semi-vacant
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Reading around the web I see that things are going kinetic in Venezuela.

To crib from Mark Twain and with regards to Maduro's pending funeral I will not be attending but I adamantly approve!
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 The Maduro dictatorship has just signed the arrest warrant against opposition leader Maria Corina Machado (she wasn't even the candidate running against him, because they saddled her with corruption charges):

https://twitter.com/GatewayHispanic/status/1818396792989299038


https://twitter.com/SenRickScott/status/1818398551098929386
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Where is the American President?  Does America support democracy or not?
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Does America support democracy or not?

Well, that depends how the administration defines "Democracy"

"Democracy" to the administration simply means keeping Democrats in power for eternity

 
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https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1818358762081489204

if Maduro is losing the support of the military leaders then he's finished
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Venezuelans are raiding warehouses controlled by Maduro’s forces and they’re finding massive stockpiles of medicines and food. It’s becoming evident the regime was keeping it all to themselves to manufacture artificial shortages and make the public dependent on the regime.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1818499397153423683
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Where is the American President?  Does America support democracy or not?

Obama screwed over dissidents who were rising against Iran's Mullahcracy, and if it matters, Biden and Foggy Bottom will screw over those trying to overthrow Maduro. Foggy Bottom and Dem POTUSes don't want status quo changed.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Venezuelans are raiding warehouses controlled by Maduro’s forces and they’re finding massive stockpiles of medicines and food. It’s becoming evident the regime was keeping it all to themselves to manufacture artificial shortages and make the public dependent on the regime.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1818499397153423683

It isn't Socialism that failed.  They simply had the wrong person running it.
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It isn't Socialism that failed.  They simply had the wrong person running it.

Socialism is always run by the wrong people. Always.
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Well, according to the New York Times, it was capitalism that failed Venezuela
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Well, according to the New York Times, it was capitalism that failed Venezuela

The New York Times has been on the Commie bandwagon since at least the early 1920s with Walter Durante leading the band!
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Marco Rubio
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Maduro now hoping to get a “deal” with the U.S. before Trump returns to the White House in 6 months
7:06 PM · Aug 1, 2024

https://twitter.com/NicolasMaduro/status/1819141849426121020
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It seems that Maduro will remain the dictator of Venezuela.  :shrug:
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It seems that Maduro will remain the dictator of Venezuela.  :shrug:

Dictators never let things like elections get in their way of power

They control armed entities like the military and police


I’ll say a prayer for the suffering people of Venezuela. Maybe this will eventually have a happy ending
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It seems that Maduro will remain the dictator of Venezuela.  :shrug:



Since the silence is deafening...I would assume that to be the case.

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What would Reagan do?
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Only end to dictatorship in Venezuela is that Maduro must die.  When he does, another can take over and maintain the dictatorship.  It really requires a spirited leader that wants to bring freedom to the people.  Totalitarian governments are difficult to end.  Look at Russia.  People thought with Yeltsin Russia had cast the yoke of totalitarianism off their back, and then along comes Putin, a brutal totalitarian that kills anyone that is open and against him, even when they are in other countries.

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Maduro has mobilized his motorized Colectivos thugs. They are now heading toward the crowd of 100 000 protesters listening to opposition leader María Corina Machado’s speech in Caracas.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1819801138939777472
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Maduro has mobilized his motorized Colectivos thugs. They are now heading toward the crowd of 100 000 protesters listening to opposition leader María Corina Machado’s speech in Caracas.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1819801138939777472

This will be America if the Democrats pull the same crap they pulled in 2020.
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Live.news from Venezuela right now on multiple You Tube channels - the police and military are preparing to attack anti-communist protesters.  :0001:
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Live.news from Venezuela right now on multiple You Tube channels - the police and military are preparing to attack anti-communist protesters.  :0001:

Maduro would love a Tiananmen Square event.  His Chicom enablers would be proud. 
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Watch the live feed some.  Kind of tough to gauge the crowd, but I'd venture 10,000 at least?
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News on Venezuela has been fairly quite
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An aid worker’s airport disappearance stirs fear of repression following disputed Venezuela election
 By  JOSHUA GOODMAN and REGINA GARCIA CANO
Updated 12:21 AM EDT, August 8, 2024

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — The last time anyone heard from Edni López was Sunday. The 33-year-old political science professor and award-winning poet was preparing to board a flight to Argentina to visit a friend when she texted from the airport that something was wrong with her passport.

“Migration took my passport because it’s showing up as expired,” she wrote her boyfriend in the message shared with The Associated Press. “I pray to God I don’t get screwed because of a system error.”

What happened next remains a mystery — one contributing to the climate of fear and repression that has engulfed Venezuela following its disputed presidential election, the most serious wave of human rights abuses since Latin America’s military dictatorships in the 1970s.

When López’s mother, Ninoska Barrios, and her friends learned she didn’t board the flight, they started frantically combing detention centers. Finally, on Tuesday — more than 48 hours later — they learned she was being held, incommunicado, by Venezuela’s feared military intelligence police on unknown criminal charges, unable to see an attorney or speak with her family. ... Associated Press
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How do you get rid of a dictator who has iron fisted control over elections and only his supporters are armed?
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LMAO asks:
"How do you get rid of a dictator who has iron fisted control over elections and only his supporters are armed?"

I'll presume you asked a serious question, so I'll answer with a serious answer:
Hire Mossad to make him disappear with extreme prejudice.

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Massive protest against Socialism taking place in Venezuela again - People want freedom. Why isn't this bigger news?

https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1825105491678077286
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Massive protest against Socialism taking place in Venezuela again - People want freedom. Why isn't this bigger news?

https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1825105491678077286

Because it would upset the left-wing/democrat party narrative.

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Because it would upset the left-wing/democrat party narrative.

Exactly. The heart of the issue in Venezuela is centered on QUESTIONING THE OFFICIAL RESULTS OF A PRESDIENTIAL ELECTION.

Our media doesn't like that kind of thing inspiring Americans to question the already decided outcome of our November election.
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Because it would upset the left-wing/democrat party narrative.

Exactly, and the last thing the dim party wants right now is a primer and narrative of what happens after an election is stolen.....  twice.
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@MeganC @catfish1957  Y'all nailed it.

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