J.D. Vance: Left Is Flipping Out That I Am Exposing Democrats as ‘Anti-Family and Anti-Child’

[mystery-ak]

J.D. Vance: Left Is Flipping Out That I Am Exposing Democrats as ‘Anti-Family and Anti-Child’

Hannah Knudsen 26 Jul 2024

Republicans need to be “honest about the problem” of the Democratic Party standing as the “anti-family and anti-child” party, former President Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance told Megyn Kelly, addressing his critics who capitalized on out-of-context remarks.

Speaking to Kelly about this viral topic, Vance said the broader point is that the Democratic Party is the anti-child, anti-family party, and Republicans should not back down on those points.

“I know the media wants to attack me and wants me to back down on this Megyn, but the simple point that I made is that having children — becoming a father, becoming a mother, I really do think it changes your perspective in a pretty profound way,” he said, making it clear that this has been recognized for hundreds of years throughout human civilization.

“It’s not a criticism of people who don’t have children. I explicitly said in my remarks, despite the fact the media has lied about this, that this is not about criticizing people who, for various reasons, didn’t have kids. This is about criticizing the Democratic Party for becoming anti-family and anti-child,” Vance said, continuing, “We have to ask ourselves, Megyn, why do we have masking of toddlers years after the pandemic ended?”

“Why do we have the Harris campaign coming out this very morning, Megyn, and saying that we should not have the child tax credit, which lowers tax rates for parents of young children?” he asked, concluding it “is because they have become anti-family and anti-kid.”

“I’m proud to stand up for parents, and I hope the parents out there recognize that I’m a guy who wants to fight for you. I want to fight for your interest. I want to fight for your stake in the country. And that is what this is fundamentally about,” Vance made clear.

“The Democrats, in the past five, ten years Megyn, they have become anti-family,” he said, explaining that this fact is “built into their policy.”

“It’s built into the way they talk about parents and children, and it’s time that we call that out,” Vance said. “I don’t think we should back down from it, Megyn. I think we should be honest about the problem.”

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1816889715397743090

The establishment media and Hollywood elites salivated after uncovering remarks Vance made three years ago, noting that the country was largely being run by “childless cat ladies” in addition to other Democrat voting blocs.

“We’re effectively run in this country, via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies,” he said during the July 2021 interview on the former hit Fox News show, Tucker Carlson Tonight. Vance was making the larger point that the country has been turned over to people with no true stake in the game, adding that these people are “miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made, and so they want to make of the rest of the country miserable too.”

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/26/jd-vance-criticizes-dems-becoming-anti-family-anti-child/

[libertybele]

J.D. Vance: Left Is Flipping Out That I Am Exposing Democrats as ‘Anti-Family and Anti-Child’

Hannah Knudsen 26 Jul 2024

Republicans need to be “honest about the problem” of the Democratic Party standing as the “anti-family and anti-child” party, former President Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance told Megyn Kelly, addressing his critics who capitalized on out-of-context remarks.

Speaking to Kelly about this viral topic, Vance said the broader point is that the Democratic Party is the anti-child, anti-family party, and Republicans should not back down on those points.

“I know the media wants to attack me and wants me to back down on this Megyn, but the simple point that I made is that having children — becoming a father, becoming a mother, I really do think it changes your perspective in a pretty profound way,” he said, making it clear that this has been recognized for hundreds of years throughout human civilization.

“It’s not a criticism of people who don’t have children. I explicitly said in my remarks, despite the fact the media has lied about this, that this is not about criticizing people who, for various reasons, didn’t have kids. This is about criticizing the Democratic Party for becoming anti-family and anti-child,” Vance said, continuing, “We have to ask ourselves, Megyn, why do we have masking of toddlers years after the pandemic ended?”

“Why do we have the Harris campaign coming out this very morning, Megyn, and saying that we should not have the child tax credit, which lowers tax rates for parents of young children?” he asked, concluding it “is because they have become anti-family and anti-kid.”

“I’m proud to stand up for parents, and I hope the parents out there recognize that I’m a guy who wants to fight for you. I want to fight for your interest. I want to fight for your stake in the country. And that is what this is fundamentally about,” Vance made clear.

“The Democrats, in the past five, ten years Megyn, they have become anti-family,” he said, explaining that this fact is “built into their policy.”

“It’s built into the way they talk about parents and children, and it’s time that we call that out,” Vance said. “I don’t think we should back down from it, Megyn. I think we should be honest about the problem.”

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1816889715397743090

The establishment media and Hollywood elites salivated after uncovering remarks Vance made three years ago, noting that the country was largely being run by “childless cat ladies” in addition to other Democrat voting blocs.

“We’re effectively run in this country, via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies,” he said during the July 2021 interview on the former hit Fox News show, Tucker Carlson Tonight. Vance was making the larger point that the country has been turned over to people with no true stake in the game, adding that these people are “miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made, and so they want to make of the rest of the country miserable too.”

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/26/jd-vance-criticizes-dems-becoming-anti-family-anti-child/

Well, it isn't just the leftists flipping out -- the local radio stations (and this is a pretty darn conservative area) around here are playing sound tracks of JD and his not so wise words of wisdom. He also commented in essence the same regarding giving parents a larger tax break -- don't they get tax breaks anyways???  He's toast right now.  That sure didn't take long.

Once again, Trump (as most of us know) doesn't pick the best people.  JD is one of them.  I don't know if it'll be enough to sink his chances at re-election, but he sure as heck isn't going to help him.  So far, JD brings nothing positive to the ticket.

[LMAO]

All three candidates, Trump, Harris, and Vance, are unpopular with the electorate at large. If Harris picks a VP that doesn’t turn off the general election voters, she’ll have a huge advantage

[jafo2010]

The division will come when the Trump campaign tells Vance to shut the hell up.  He is not helping by continuing to defend his idiot comment, even if what he says is accurate and true.

Just not smart.

[libertybele]

The division will come when the Trump campaign tells Vance to shut the hell up.  He is not helping by continuing to defend his idiot comment, even if what he says is accurate and true.

Just not smart.

Well, I've read transcripts, a video was posted in here and I've heard radio clips -- they're pretty much the same and he doesn't have a whole lot of wiggle room to justify what he said ... in fact, he's digging his hole deeper.

If he keeps trying to prove that he's right .... he's only going to help Kamel win.

[LMAO]

Well, I've read transcripts, a video was posted in here and I've heard radio clips -- they're pretty much the same and he doesn't have a whole lot of wiggle room to justify what he said ... in fact, he's digging his hole deeper.

If he keeps trying to prove that he's right .... he's only going to help Kamel win.

Maybe he is right. Or believes he is right strongly enough to say it and defend it regardless of the consequence


I can respect that

[libertybele]

Maybe he is right. Or believes he is right strongly enough to say it and defend it regardless of the consequence


I can respect that

Right about what -- that people with kids should get extra votes?   

I've listened to a recent clarification from him (to try to right what he stated) and what he in essence is doing is repeating what he stated the first time around with the wording a little different. He's only digging his hole deeper.

I can certainly foresee that he will have much in common with Trump in that he just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

[libertybele]

The division will come when the Trump campaign tells Vance to shut the hell up.  He is not helping by continuing to defend his idiot comment, even if what he says is accurate and true.

Just not smart.

Well, @Maj. Bill Martin posted a video -- and it's certainly more of an opinion than a matter of being a fact.  Then he calls women "childless cat ladies" -- that's an insult period, anyway you cut it.  Now he's trying to somehow defend that?   Like I stated, he's just digging that hole even deeper.

His prior comments and his words defending what he said are being played on the airwaves around here on relatively conservative stations in a relatively conservative area -- so he's done the Trump ticket no favors.

You are right ... just not smart.

You can bet that this is just the beginning.  Wait till the DEMS reveal who is going to be on their ticket. 

Trump had a fantastic convention; but Cruz was absolutely correct.  Over confidence is not a good thing heading into this election.  Sure, anyone can beat an old, evil demented puppet. 

[LMAO]

Right about what -- that people with kids should get extra votes?   

I've listened to a recent clarification from him (to try to right what he stated) and what he in essence is doing is repeating what he stated the first time around with the wording a little different. He's only digging his hole deeper.

I can certainly foresee that he will have much in common with Trump in that he just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Here’s the cat lady comment

“We are effectively run in this country … by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made, and so they wanna make the rest of the country miserable, too," Vance told Carlson. "It's just a basic fact. You look at Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children."

I think he’s right. It’s a stupid comment to make when running for office and it’s one of many that may sink the campaign but I agree with him on this

Liberal women are miserable and want to  make everybody else miserable too. Which part of that do you disagree with?

[libertybele]

Here’s the cat lady comment

“We are effectively run in this country … by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made, and so they wanna make the rest of the country miserable, too," Vance told Carlson. "It's just a basic fact. You look at Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children."

I think he’s right. It’s a stupid comment to make when running for office and it’s one of many that may sink the campaign but I agree with him on this

You need to listen to his comments on his commenting about what he said, what he's now saying and much more of what he said. @Maj. Bill Martin video is more in depth and pretty damaging. 

Perhaps it's just my take because I don't like the guy, but for the conservative radio stations around here to question his poor taste is concerning -- if they're cornering him, it has me concerned.  Normally they would jump in and defend Trump. They're doing the opposite and this is pretty much Trump territory.

[LMAO]

You need to listen to his comments on his commenting about what he said, what he's now saying and much more of what he said. @Maj. Bill Martin video is more in depth and pretty damaging. 

Perhaps it's just my take because I don't like the guy, but for the conservative radio stations around here to question his poor taste is concerning -- if they're cornering him, it has me concerned.  Normally they would jump in and defend Trump. They're doing the opposite and this is pretty much Trump territory.

I’m not disagreeing that his comment was  a dumb thing to say if he wants to advance his political career. And there’s gonna be plenty more things that he has said in the past that’s gonna come out that’s gonna turn off voters

I’m just saying that he’s right when it comes to liberal women being miserable cat ladies.


Times are tough out there for liberals, especially women. According to the 2022 American Family Survey, no demographic is unhappier and less satisfied with their mental health than liberal women.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2591259/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy/

[libertybele]

I’m not disagreeing that his comment was  a dumb thing to say if he wants to advance his political career. And there’s gonna be plenty more things that he has said in the past that’s gonna come out that’s gonna turn off voters

I’m just saying that he’s right when it comes to liberal women being miserable cat ladies.


Times are tough out there for liberals, especially women. According to the 2022 American Family Survey, no demographic is unhappier and less satisfied with their mental health than liberal women.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2591259/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy/

The comment was derogatory towards women and he's trying to bury it and he can't. To me the most troubling comment(s) is that those with children should be able to cast extra votes and get tax breaks.  For, one, people with children (at least last I had heard and read) already get tax breaks....extra votes???  So in essence he's proposing to exclude a certain demographic from voting or allowing a particular demographic extra votes?  Really?  Sorry, that's almost as ridiculous as something AOC might say.

Of course this isn't going to be the last thing he says that people disagree with, but like Trump, right now he just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Sure, his comment was aimed at liberal women, but he also offended conservative women who can't conceive, lost a child or opted to not have children. 

With his attitude about women he comes across very patriarchal and chauvinistic. 

Perhaps in picking JD, Trump realized that he'd be the new target and he'd get a reprieve.  They've attacked Trump on just about every level, whether it was true or not.

[libertybele]

Ok .... I've said my piece on this issue with JD.

Trump '24

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Liberal women are miserable and want to  make everybody else miserable too. Which part of that do you disagree with?

That part.

Is it true in some cases?  Sure.  But I know a ton of liberal women, with and without kids or cats, who are not miserable.   Just finished a week of trial with a total of 6 female attorneys - all liberal - on both sides, and I'd say one was miserable.   She was the least attractive one of the bunch, no spouse or kids so she fits the stereotype.   But the rest seemed far from miserable.

This seems like something conservative want to believe rather than something that is objectively true.

Vance's rationale for that statement basically was "if you don't have kids, you can't be happy.".  The problem is despite him prefacing his remarks by saying they didn't apply to women who couldn't have kids, the later comment about being miserable because you don't have kids necessarily would apply to them as well.  A friend of my wife's, who unfortunately recently passed due to cancer, lost a baby in her 20's that rendered her unable to have children, and it was tremendously sad for her.  She said the one thing good about the cancer was it meant she would seen her son soon.

Anyway, she indeed was very liberal.  But if Vance's comment had prompted a deep, visceral hate in her, I couldn't blame her.  It's just an awful thing to have said because the whole "you're miserable/unfulfilled if you don't have kids" is logic that applies regardless of why you don't have them.

What I really don't like about this comment is that it amounts to Vance projecting his values and desires onto everyone else.   Because he wouldn't feel happy/fulfilled without kids, nobody else could either.  And that kind of projection is what lefties tend to do.

I really, really wish Trump would have picked someone else.  Like, anyone else.  But, he only picks the finest people, so.....

[LMAO]

That part.

Is it true in some cases?  Sure.  But I know a ton of liberal women, with and without kids or cats, who are not miserable.   Just finished a week of trial with a total of 6 female attorneys - all liberal - on both sides, and I'd say one was miserable.   She was the least attractive one of the bunch, no spouse or kids so she fits the stereotype.   But the rest seemed far from miserable.

This seems like something conservative want to believe rather than something that is objectively true.

Vance's rationale for that statement basically was "if you don't have kids, you can't be happy.".  The problem is despite him prefacing his remarks by saying they didn't apply to women who couldn't have kids, the later comment about being miserable because you don't have kids necessarily would apply to them as well.  A friend of my wife's, who unfortunately recently passed due to cancer, lost a baby in her 20's that rendered her unable to have children, and it was tremendously sad for her.  She said the one thing good about the cancer was it meant she would seen her son soon.

Anyway, she indeed was very liberal.  But if Vance's comment had prompted a deep, visceral hate in her, I couldn't blame her.  It's just an awful thing to have said because the whole "you're miserable/unfulfilled if you don't have kids" is logic that applies regardless of why you don't have them.

What I really don't like about this comment is that it amounts to Vance projecting his values and desires onto everyone else.   Because he wouldn't feel happy/fulfilled without kids, nobody else could either.  And that kind of projection is what lefties tend to do.

I really, really wish Trump would have picked someone else.  Like, anyone else.  But, he only picks the finest people, so.....

Well, my experience with childless liberal older women is different than yours.

But Vance’s statements are being used against him by the Harris Campaign and it’s taking its toll. And it will get worse for him

[LMAO]

Still, having said the above, you don’t attack your opponents supporters

Ask Romney how his “47%” comment or Hillary’s “Basket of deplorables” comments worked out for them

Although both comments alone may not have cost either of them the election, it’s death by a 1000 cuts. And the attacks on JD Vance are taking a toll and if it continues, and  Harris doesn’t choose a way out in left field type for her vice president, Trump is going to have an extremely difficult time winning the election. And Harris will motivate minorities and women in a way that Biden wouldn’t have if he stayed in the race

Forget any polls now. Many a candidate that was polling well in the summer before the election ended up losing the election

JD Vance may end up  being turned into Sarah Palin with testicles when this is all done


I still think the cat lady comment is tame compared to what I would’ve said . If it was me, I would’ve said obese, purple haired, screaming, tatted up and overly pierced man  hating lesbians are what make up the Democratic Party base


But I’m not running for public office

[catfish1957]

Still, having said the above, you don’t attack your opponents supporters




I still think the cat lady comment is tame compared to what I would’ve said . If it was me, I would’ve said obese, purple haired, screaming, tatted up and overly pierced man  hating lesbians are what make up the Democratic Party base

I am chalking this up as a learning experience for JD.  I understand the context he used this comment, but that interpretation will never get to the populus.  Words have consequences, and I hope he has learned, and chooses better. 

[The_Reader_David]

Vance is wrong about this.  The Left is not flipping out about his stance.  They are using a quotation taken out of context to vilify him in the eyes of women and couples who have fertility problems and of anyone else who doesn't see the problem with the short-termism that is endemic among the childless-by-choice.  The Left attacks anyone who disagrees with them on anything, but the attacks themselves are not based on the substance of the disagreement, but on cynical political calculations. (cf. calling opponents "Hitler" or "fascist" for stances that are completely unlike those of Hitler or the fascists in any respect other than being opposed to the Left.)

[catfish1957]

Vance is wrong about this.  The Left is not flipping out about his stance.  They are using a quotation taken out of context to vilify him in the eyes of women and couples who have fertility problems and of anyone else who doesn't see the problem with the short-termism that is endemic among the childless-by-choice.  The Left attacks anyone who disagrees with them on anything, but the attacks themselves are not based on the substance of the disagreement, but on cynical political calculations. (cf. calling opponents "Hitler" or "fascist" for stances that are completely unlike those of Hitler or the fascists in any respect other than being opposed to the Left.)

I agree.  He really needs to formulate an op-ed clarifying this before it festers longer/

[Maj. Bill Martin]

JD Vance may end up  being turned into Sarah Palin with testicles when this is all done

Yikes.   That may be prescient.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Vance is wrong about this.  The Left is not flipping out about his stance.  They are using a quotation taken out of context to vilify him in the eyes of women and couples who have fertility problems and of anyone else who doesn't see the problem with the short-termism that is endemic among the childless-by-choice. 

This goes to that whole "you know you're over the target when you start taking flak" idea, which is often used as a lame excuse when someone gets attacked for saying something stupid.

Biden took unprecedented amounts of flak for his performance in that debate.   Did that really indicate he was "over the target", and so really had a great debate performance?  When Kamala is blasted for her word salad, does that mean she must have been "over the target"?

It's just a dumb phrase.

[LMAO]

Vance is wrong about this.  The Left is not flipping out about his stance.  They are using a quotation taken out of context to vilify him in the eyes of women and couples who have fertility problems and of anyone else who doesn't see the problem with the short-termism that is endemic among the childless-by-choice.  The Left attacks anyone who disagrees with them on anything, but the attacks themselves are not based on the substance of the disagreement, but on cynical political calculations. (cf. calling opponents "Hitler" or "fascist" for stances that are completely unlike those of Hitler or the fascists in any respect other than being opposed to the Left.)

The rank and file voters of the Democrat Party might be flipping out

But not the leaders of the party