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Massachusetts: Cape Cod scientists want to dump 60,000+ gallons of sodium hydroxide into ocean in climate change experiment
Story by Lance Reynolds, Boston Herald • 5h


BOSTON — Environmentalists and fishermen are pushing back against a plan from a group of scientists who want to dump more than 60,000 gallons of sodium hydroxide, more commonly known as lye, into the ocean off Cape Cod to gain an understanding of how to slow climate change.

Scientists from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute in Falmouth are seeking a federal permit for their project, which would start sometime this summer with a field trial program that would disperse roughly 6,600 gallons 10 miles south of Martha’s Vineyard.
 
Woods Hole says there are two central goals to its so-called LOC-NESS project, short for “Locking away Ocean Carbon in the Northeast Shelf and Slope.”

The first is to “understand potential environmental impacts of using ocean alkalinity enhancement to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.” The other is to “verify and report the amount of carbon dioxide this method might realistically remove if deployed at scale.”

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Just stop all the horsesh*t being dumped on the world from liberals in Massachusetts and chemicals won't be needed. :whistle:
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That is literally a drop in the Ocean.
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That is literally a drop in the Ocean.

60,000 gallons is literally 20' x 20' x 20' of liquid... As you say, literally a drop in the ocean...

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Get a saltwater aquarium and model it.
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Mass residents have spent 30 years and billions of dollars cleaning up Massachusetts' waters.

I don't care how many degrees, Nobel Prizes, Al Gore Seals of Approval, etc., the science poindexters have, they ain't dumping $h!t anywhere off the coast of Massachusetts.

These Global Climate Change dweebs ain't killing North Atlantic Right Whales for "science".  Not all "science" is worth following.
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The tidewater estuary I grew up on in MD had chemicals dumped in it (over protests) to eliminate aquatic vegetation in one small bay because 'it fouled boat props'.
That was in the 1960s.
Being a tidewater (brackish water) estuary, the chemicals did not just 'run out' but were distributed throughout the entire estuary during subsequent tide cycles.

The vegetation went away, as advertised, and not just in that small bay, but the entire estuary (20 miles long, 2 wide, and tributaries) and with it, so did the fisheries that depended on the animals (crabs and fish) that that vegetation sheltered during critical moments in their life cycles. Those fisheries were worth millions of dollars then, in the '60s, when oysters were $4 a bushel.
In the absence of that vegetation, cow nosed ray schools made incursions and wiped out an entire commercial species of clam (I know what they were eating, we caught one and dissected it on our picnic table, and I personally examined the stomach contents).
In the storms which came after the aquatic vegetation was eliminated, there was nothing to dampen wave energy, so coastal erosion increased, as did sediment and turbidity, and oyster bars were silted out.
Now, most of my lifetime later, the vegetation has not been reestablished, and attempts to move some in have been met with failure. Apparently the plants will grow a little, then die. I'd hypothesize there is a layer down in the bottom that contains enough of the herbicides from then to still kill aquatic vegetation, at least the type that roots in the bottom.

Don't let these people experiment with anything that may have far-reaching and unforeseen consequences. Like I said, build a saltwater aquarium, control all the factors to make it as identical to nature as possible, then experiment on that.
Once you dump it in nature, there is no setting it right again.
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fresh/sea water + NaOH=. Massive Fish Kills

Seen this in real time action a 100 times.   

Insane Envirowhackos on parade

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