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« Reply #575 on: July 19, 2024, 05:53:56 pm »
Quote from: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/photographer-doug-mills-capturing-bullet-trump-rally-assassination-attempt-trumps/
"When he was ushered off the stage, I thought that was going to be the picture that, you know, he was bloodied ear, gave that fist pump. And I thought, you know, as I'm looking back at my camera, I'm sending pictures directly to The New York Times from my camera," said Mills.

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This part is fun.  So his cam is talking to his laptop in realtime, and his laptop is pumping everything up to NYT, I'd guess. Surely the camera is not pumping direct...  :shrug:

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« Reply #576 on: July 19, 2024, 06:01:39 pm »


This part is fun.  So his cam is talking to his laptop in realtime, and his laptop is pumping everything up to NYT, I'd guess. Surely the camera is not pumping direct...  :shrug:

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« Reply #577 on: July 19, 2024, 06:06:44 pm »
   It won't take 60 years to figure this one out and this thing is barely 60 hours old. 
   There are multitudes of people alive that believe LHO shot Kennedy.

   Be patient Grasshopper.
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« Reply #578 on: July 19, 2024, 06:07:59 pm »
5G and a cell phone.

Woah. No kidding. That's pretty kewl.

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« Reply #579 on: July 19, 2024, 06:18:04 pm »
The FBI says the woman behind Trump during his PA rally is *not* FBI assistant director Janeen DiGuiseppi after online users started spreading the bogus theory.

Blurry video footage went viral where online users claimed the woman in the video was DiGuiseppi. ...

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1814407048442139032
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« Reply #580 on: July 19, 2024, 06:19:57 pm »
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There are multitudes of people alive that believe LHO shot Kennedy.

How well I know.  One of the worst for pushing the nonsense of LHO is Bill O'Reilly.  From everything I read to date, LHO never fired a shot.  He was a patsy, as he claimed.  He was a CIA operative, and there is plenty that spell that out.

Patience will NOT provide answers to this attempt any more than patience provided answers for JFK.  Not going to happen.

I am sure most here believe it was a conspiracy.  That said, the alphabet agencies will do what is necessary to protect each other.

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« Reply #581 on: July 19, 2024, 06:20:06 pm »
Sometimes the mentally ill "out" themselves:

Former CIA Analyst Gail Helt suggests Donald Trump set up his own assas*ination attempt. Helt, who worked for the agency for 11 years, suggested Trump set up a failed hit because he is "desperate to stay out of prison."  ...

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1814350171691724974
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« Reply #582 on: July 19, 2024, 06:43:49 pm »
He was a 20-year-old male. Pretty sure he would have done this even if he only been on his way to the South Hills Village mall, and not to Butler to kill the president.
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Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks’ last online search was for porn
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Published July 19, 2024, 2:19 p.m. ET

Failed Donald Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks’ final online search before the Pennsylvania rally shooting last weekend was for pornography, according to a report.

Crooks’ last search was found when the FBI gained access to the 20-year-old’s encrypted Samsung phone, a senior law enforcement official told the Daily Beast.

Initial attempts to bust into the Android device at the Pittsburgh field office failed, and the phone had to be flown to Quantico for agents to take a look at it, the source explained.  ...

So far, investigators have found a troubling online history that included searches for Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley and other mass shooters, law enforcement sources told The Post.  ...
https://nypost.com/2024/07/19/us-news/trump-shooter-thomas-matthew-crooks-last-online-search-was-for-porn/
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« Reply #583 on: July 19, 2024, 06:57:40 pm »
Sometimes the mentally ill "out" themselves:

Former CIA Analyst Gail Helt suggests Donald Trump set up his own assas*ination attempt. Helt, who worked for the agency for 11 years, suggested Trump set up a failed hit because he is "desperate to stay out of prison."  ...

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1814350171691724974


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« Reply #584 on: July 19, 2024, 06:59:10 pm »
I believe it's been debunked that this is Crooks. Not sure.

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I also saw it on the web the other day and then it was taken down.

This morning I saw it posted by a well-respected, serious individual FB friend and quickly grabbed it.

Apologize if it's indeed, bogus. 
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« Reply #585 on: July 19, 2024, 07:33:27 pm »
Nine Secret Service Failures that Nearly Led to Former President Donald Trump Being Assassinated

Kristina Wong 19 Jul 2024

Former President Donald Trump was nearly assassinated a week ago, as he spoke at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday in what is seen as the largest Secret Service failure in four decades.

The bottom line is the agency in charge of protecting Trump failed to stop the shooter, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, from positioning himself less than 500 feet away and firing eight bullets at the former president, one coming mere millimeters from taking his life.

There are multiple investigations underway, but so far, very few answers. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle is due to testify to the House Oversight Committee on Monday.

Here are nine major Secret Service security failures we know of so far that need to be addressed:

   1. The rooftop that Crooks fired at Trump from was an obvious security risk. According to NBC News, the rooftop was identified as a potential vulnerability by the Secret Service in the days before the rally. Why was the building excluded from Secret Service’s inside perimeter and assigned to local law enforcement? Why wasn’t the perimeter around the building secured? How were rally-goers able to spot Crooks climbing to the rooftop and getting in position before law enforcement could stop him? When did Secret Service counter-sniper teams become of aware of him?

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/19/nine-secret-service-failures-that-nearly-led-to-former-president-donald-trump-being-assassinated/
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« Reply #586 on: July 19, 2024, 07:39:52 pm »
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The bottom line is the agency in charge of protecting Trump failed to stop the shooter, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, from positioning himself less than 500 feet away and firing eight bullets at the former president, one coming mere millimeters from taking his life.


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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/19/nine-secret-service-failures-that-nearly-led-to-former-president-donald-trump-being-assassinated/

So EIGHT. We're back to eight now? or was it five? Or was it eleven?

I told y'all, eight in rapid succession on the VCM tape.

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« Reply #587 on: July 19, 2024, 08:01:24 pm »
All of you should accept the notion that you will not live long enough to know the truth about this event.

Those investigating this event are looking for evidence to launder it and make it disappear.  There will be little to no truth presented to the public.

My bottomline, everyone involved that day, from the Director of the Secret Service down to the detail on site, the people that were part of the advance team, all of them should be terminated with extreme prejudice.  Somewhere within that mix is one or more folks that was involved with this effort to assassinate Trump.  It is  a conspiracy, and should be treated as such until evidence appears otherwise.

With the ages of everyone here, we will all long be dead before the truth is known, if it is ever known.  I don't think anyone will learn the truth of this day. 

And I believe the Crooks parents know more than they revealed.  Their calling the police in concern for their son, they found something, perhaps his manifesto, and that triggered them to push a button.  But I can see them destroying any evidence that would incriminate their son.  With the corrupt FBI investigating this event, the parents could burn the evidence while the FBI stood there, and they would not see anything, that is how much credibility the FBI has with me. None, literally.

Months are going to go by, and all of you will still be scratching your heads wondering what the truth was.  That is what conspiracies produce, little to no evidence, unanswered questions, etc.  Things that do not add up or make much sense.

And remember, these agencies all report to the Biden Idiocracy.  Do you really expect ANYTHING from these clowns?  Really?  The Keystone Cops have more ability and credibility.
Like so many other similar events (Hunter's laptop, Afghan debacle, etc.) we should expect some major event to occur soon to send the investigation to the backburner.  Could be a China invasion of Taiwan, a Russian nuke strike against Ukraine, a real assassination of a world figure or maybe a total collapse of online systems.  Does the latter sound familiar?
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« Reply #588 on: July 19, 2024, 08:47:37 pm »
Trump Gunman Flew Drone Over Rally Site Hours Before Attempted Assassination

Wall Street Journal By Sadie Gurman and Aruna Viswanatha

Discovery adds to growing list of stunning security lapses that almost led to former president’s killing

A gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump was able to fly a drone and get aerial footage of the western Pennsylvania fairgrounds shortly before the former president was set to speak there, law-enforcement officials briefed on the matter said, further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead of Trump’s near assassination.

Thomas Matthew Crooks flew the drone on a programmed flight path earlier in the day on July 13 to scour the Butler Farm Show grounds ahead of Trump’s ill-fated rally, the officials said. The predetermined path, the officials added, suggests Crooks flew the drone more than once as he researched and scoped out the event site.

The 20-year-old would-be assassin fired at least six rounds from the roof of the American Glass Research building roughly 400 feet away from where Trump spoke, killing one spectator, critically injuring two others and leaving Trump with a graze wound to the ear. A Secret Service sniper team shot back, killing Crooks, whose motive remains a mystery.

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« Reply #589 on: July 19, 2024, 08:48:33 pm »
This is insane...

Trump Gunman Flew Drone Over Rally Site Hours Before Attempted Assassination

The gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump was able to fly a drone and get aerial footage of the western Pennsylvania fairgrounds shortly before the former president was set to speak there, law-enforcement officials briefed on the matter said, further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead of Trump’s near assassination.

Excerpted, more here: https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/trump-gunman-flew-drone-over-rally-site-hours-before-attempted-assassination-2d0e2e1a?mod=hp_lead_pos8

It's behind a paywall so I can't read the entire article, but just the headline makes my jaw drop.
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« Reply #590 on: July 19, 2024, 08:55:27 pm »
https://archive.is/1YHJY#selection-5791.0-5791.367

The use of the drone was just one way in which authorities have said Crooks planned his attack. Crooks, described by friends as very smart yet withdrawn, began researching the site shortly after the Trump campaign announced the rally on July 3, and registered for the event on July 7, officials said. He visited the farm show grounds a few days later to scope it out.

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« Reply #591 on: July 19, 2024, 08:58:02 pm »
Trump Gunman Flew Drone Over Rally Site Hours Before Attempted Assassination
Story by Sadie Gurman, Aruna Viswanatha

A gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump was able to fly a drone and get aerial footage of the western Pennsylvania fairgrounds shortly before the former president was set to speak there, law-enforcement officials briefed on the matter said, further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead of Trump’s near assassination.

Thomas Matthew Crooks flew the drone on a programmed flight path earlier in the day on July 13 to scour the Butler Farm Show grounds ahead of Trump’s ill-fated rally, the officials said. The predetermined path, the officials added, suggests Crooks flew the drone more than once as he researched and scoped out the event site.

The 20-year-old would-be assassin fired at least six rounds from the roof of the American Glass Research building roughly 400 feet away from where Trump spoke, killing one spectator, critically injuring two others and leaving Trump with a graze wound to the ear. A Secret Service sniper team shot back, killing Crooks, whose motive remains a mystery.

Multiple investigations are under way into how a gunman was able to climb onto a rooftop with a clear line of sight to Trump and open fire with an AR-15 rifle. Police had become suspicious of Crooks more than an hour earlier, when officers saw him milling about the edges of the rally with a range finder and a backpack.

The use of the drone was just one way in which authorities have said Crooks planned his attack. Crooks, described by friends as very smart yet withdrawn, began researching the site shortly after the Trump campaign announced the rally on July 3, and registered for the event on July 7, officials said. He visited the farm show grounds a few days later to scope it out.

On July 13, officials said, he returned with a pair of homemade bombs that appeared to be designed to be set off by remote control, as they were fitted with a receiver like the kind used to set off fireworks remotely. Investigators found the rudimentary explosives in Crooks’ car parked close to the grounds, along with a ballistic carrier, or vest, with three, 30-round magazines in it, an indication that he might have wanted to cause greater carnage.

Crooks in recent months had received several packages to his home marked “hazardous materials,” officials said. He did online searches for dates of Trump rallies, but also searched for information about next month’s Democratic convention and President Biden, providing a mixed bag of clues for investigators to sort through as they try to determine what, if any, ideology he ascribed to.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-gunman-flew-drone-over-rally-site-hours-before-attempted-assassination/ar-BB1qiI0z

My questions:

1. How do they know a drone was flown multiple times over the area if at all?  Did he ask permission or ?

2. How do authorities know it was Crooks that flew it?  Could have been anybody.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #592 on: July 19, 2024, 09:01:02 pm »

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« Reply #594 on: July 19, 2024, 09:36:51 pm »


My questions:

1. How do they know a drone was flown multiple times over the area if at all?  Did he ask permission or ?

2. How do authorities know it was Crooks that flew it?  Could have been anybody.

They confiscated his computers etc..

The drone footage was probably saved on the hard drive.

Also, thought I saw a pic of what he had in his backpack or his vehicle...looked like one of the items was the controller from a gaming unit...or to fly a drone
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« Reply #595 on: July 19, 2024, 09:55:51 pm »
:facepalm2:

The CIA is really hitting the bottom of the barrel in its hiring.
Worked there 11 years: 2013 hire...Obama agency....'nuff said.
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« Reply #596 on: July 19, 2024, 09:57:09 pm »
I have no doubt there was a shooter on the water tower, who well may not have been able to get a shot off.  But how would anyone know that person to be a FBI sniper?

I will admit, I would not be the least bit surprised if it is true.  FBI investigating the FBI, now that sounds about right.
 
FBI snipers have been at just about every event of chaos in the USA for decades, from Ruby Ridge, Waco, to no doubt Trump's assassination.  Had a relative via marriage that was a FBI sniper.  He has seen some sh*t.

But I would pose the following:  if a FBI sniper was there to kill Trump, and he fired, Trump would be dead.  PERIOD!  So, while he may have been there, my guess, if that was the plan, it was probably coordinated to fire X minutes into the rally.  The kid being rushed because he was discovered could have thrown the choreographed assassination into flux.

We will never know the truth on this, unless the FBI sniper comes forward and confesses, and do not hold your breath.

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« Reply #597 on: July 19, 2024, 10:00:59 pm »
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NEW: Former CIA Analyst Gail Helt suggests Donald Trump set up his own assas*ination attempt.

Helt, who worked for the agency for 11 years, suggested Trump set up a failed hit because he is "desperate to stay out of prison."


Who leaves a bureaucratic job before their 20 unless they were forced out?  Where is her evidence?  More bullsh*t from an unqualified Obama hire.  Meaningless.  Totally meaningless!!




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« Reply #598 on: July 19, 2024, 10:01:24 pm »
https://archive.is/1YHJY#selection-5791.0-5791.367

The use of the drone was just one way in which authorities have said Crooks planned his attack. Crooks, described by friends as very smart yet withdrawn, began researching the site shortly after the Trump campaign announced the rally on July 3, and registered for the event on July 7, officials said. He visited the farm show grounds a few days later to scope it out.
Well, at least someone used a drone to scope the area out.

The question is why the SS/FBI/etc. wasn't using one for surveillance. Think they might have spotted someone on a rooftop that wasn't supposed to be there in 20 minutes? (Hell, the crowd did!)
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« Reply #599 on: July 19, 2024, 10:03:23 pm »
Hard to believe.  I thought they used devices to block signals for phones, perhaps drones at sites like this?  On the surface, I do not believe this story.