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18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« on: June 21, 2024, 05:45:41 am »
18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
 
Thanks to all that sunshine and Hollywood glam, California used to be the place that everyone dreamed about. Lately, many Americans have changed their view on the Golden State and started to dislike it. Let’s look at 18 reasons why lots of us have turned our backs on California.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/18-reasons-everyone-s-fed-up-with-california/ss-BB1oA2iW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=9e7362fbb58a4a2aa83b2392a44a9778&ei=62
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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2024, 10:47:05 am »
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If you’re thinking about living in California, then you’re definitely going to need a lot of money. Almost everything is top dollar, which means you’ll pay twice as much for your groceries or rent compared to other states. ...

I realize that the California-Bashing industry has progressed from a cottage to a rented business garage space, but seriously? Groceries are not double every other state (try Hawaii!), and while house prices and rents are through the roof in the SF Peninsula, Silicon Valley, and the Land of LA, those, collectively, are a small part of California. And oh by the way, wages/salaries in higher cost-of-living areas are also higher, something the slideshow did not mention.

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In addition to those high prices, California has some of the highest taxes in America. State income taxes can make anyone’s wallet suffer. ...

Yes, California has high taxes, but is not uniquely so. One tax that hits one's cost of living, whether homeowner or renter, is property taxes. Proposition 13, much hated by Dems and other Progs, capped the percentage of a property value the tax can be, and capped the percentage that tax can increase for an owner year over year.

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Similarly, many people feel that the cost of such high taxes doesn’t match up with the benefits, or lack thereof. Numerous public services and infrastructure issues just don’t seem to go away. ...

OK, is there a state in the US where the majority of citizens believe they are getting their tax-money's worth, statewide and local?

This is just another clickbait-headlined hyperbole-infused slideshow, with every third slide being an ad.
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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2024, 12:10:08 am »
We get it @PeteS in CA.
You are happy there.
To each his own.
We just want our own, too.

Where a lot of the resentment comes, is that other states are expected to jump off the same regulatory cliffs as CA. A couple of east Coast States chime in, and then they expect the Federal Government to impose that on all of us.
When the Feds impose it, then Federalism breaks down, along with the ability of States to determine how they want to live.

If we wanted to live that way, we'd either vote for it here, or move there.
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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2024, 12:14:53 pm »
Where did I say I was happy with things happening in California, @Smokin Joe? Quote with link, please.

My point you either missed or are avoiding is that these clickbait slideshows exaggerate and suggest as peculiarly Californian that are actually true of multiple or most US states. Clickbait crap make those taken in by it look credulous, at best.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2024, 01:24:20 pm »
Where did I say I was happy with things happening in California, @Smokin Joe? Quote with link, please.

My point you either missed or are avoiding is that these clickbait slideshows exaggerate and suggest as peculiarly Californian that are actually true of multiple or most US states. Clickbait crap make those taken in by it look credulous, at best.
If you're still there, being miserable is on you. Otherwise, you're happy there.
And yes, a lot of the bullshit is bicoastal.
What we see from 'Hicksville' out here in flyover country is that some of the most onerous regulations that become Federal originate in California. Emissions controls that were California only become the rule for places where the population density is under 10 people per square mile, by decree, whether they make any sense here or not, no matter how necessary they seem there.
When you live in the magma chamber for such nonsense, it's all the same, but when you see the lava flow coming toward you, it is a different perspective.

I'm not about to go through your voluminous posts to find where you are happy with California, but you sure spend a lot of time defending it if you aren't.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2024, 03:40:17 pm »
If you're still there, being miserable is on you. Otherwise, you're happy there.
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OK, again, back your previous claim with a quote and link where I said I was happy with things happening in California, not with a Swiss-cheesy reasoning-surrogate side-step attempt.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2024, 04:27:25 pm »
OK, again, back your previous claim with a quote and link where I said I was happy with things happening in California, not with a Swiss-cheesy reasoning-surrogate side-step attempt.
If you aren't happy there, why are you still there? QED
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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2024, 04:51:58 pm »
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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2024, 05:43:29 pm »
California sucks.

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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2024, 12:58:58 am »
California sucks.
Name a blue state that doesn't? There are some 'red' states where some seriously wrong things are happening in schools, North Carolina and also have cities with high crime, Texas anyone?

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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2024, 09:08:21 am »
California has the highest unemployment rate out of any state plus DC at 5.3%. 51st out of 51. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

But Gov. Greaseball says, "Job boom!":

https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1804526198849933347
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2024, 02:53:10 pm »
Paradise to purgatory: Gavin Newsom and California’s self-destruction
By Victor Davis Hanson
Published June 23, 2024, 1:41 p.m. ET

California has become a test case of the suicide of the West.

Never before has such a state, so rich in natural resources and endowed with such a bountiful human inheritance, self-destructed so rapidly.

How and why did California so utterly consume its unmatched natural and ancestral inheritance and end up as a warning to Western civilization of what might be in store for anyone who followed its nihilism?  ... Read on at NY Post
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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2024, 03:22:33 pm »
Name a blue state that doesn't? There are some 'red' states where some seriously wrong things are happening in schools, North Carolina and also have cities with high crime, Texas anyone?

I live in one of 'em - NY - and California makes even NY look halfway rational.

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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2024, 12:49:21 pm »
I live in one of 'em - NY - and California makes even NY look halfway rational.

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2024, 01:15:53 pm »
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2024, 02:25:00 pm »
I'll keep saying this:

The best way to see California is in your rear view mirror.  :cool:
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2024, 02:56:32 pm »
The problem with California is, because of it's sheer size, just about every bad liberal idea that gets enacted there spreads like a virus to all the other states, especially those ideas that impact energy production, business, and manufacturing.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2024, 03:25:32 pm »
As more deplorables leave Cali, the liberal echo chamber gets more liberal-ly.  Each bad idea will be worse than the previous idea.  California's sanity drain will embolden more moonbat midnight madness.

Why stop at reparations for African-Americans?  What about Native Americans?  Woolly Mammoths?  Dinosaurs?

Isn't every aggrieved class entitled to someone else's money to compensate them for all the injustices inflicted upon them by The Man?

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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2024, 04:48:04 pm »
Name a blue state that doesn't? There are some 'red' states where some seriously wrong things are happening in schools, North Carolina and also have cities with high crime, Texas anyone?

Leave us out of this.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2024, 04:59:01 pm »


source: @PatriotPointman on X
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2024, 06:14:12 pm »


source: @PatriotPointman on X
Yabbut, even he can't do that without a willing legislature.
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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2024, 09:13:08 pm »
The problem with California is, because of it's sheer size, just about every bad liberal idea that gets enacted there spreads like a virus to all the other states, especially those ideas that impact energy production, business, and manufacturing.

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Re: 18 Reasons Everyone’s Fed up With California
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2024, 09:45:19 pm »
The problem with California is its majority of voters. They voted for what they got.

Apparently, California didn't gain any jobs in all of 2023 while lying that they did...