Federal budget deficit to reach nearly $2 trillion this year, CBO projects

[Hoodat]

You just outlined why neither of the two candidates should be allowed anywhere near high office

You got that right.  I never dreamed that there would be members here championing Robert Mugabe fiscal policies.

[catfish1957]

I chuckle at the posts from the "budget concern trolls" here at The Briefing Room.

I've been screaming about this for 40 years, I'd say that hardly makes me a "budget concern troll"

[LMAO]

You got that right.  I never dreamed that there would be members here championing Robert Mugabe fiscal policies.

 They know economics enough to know that printing money to sustain record deficits leads to inflation, for example

But vocalizing their opposition to  that position conflicts with their  loyalty to Trump

[roamer_1]

... and you all know it.

That's right... Which us why neither candidate will receive my endorsement. and rightfully so.

[Fishrrman]

Guess I touched a few nerves. That was intentional.

It's not "what should be done". Posters above are right about that.

Rather, it's about what WILL be done. I stand by what I've posted.

There may have been... there WAS... a previous time (or times) in our history when difficult decisions were made with the blessings of the entire nation, by which difficult problems were overcome.

That is no longer possible, and will not be possible again so long as the current 50 states comprise "one nation". The [formerly United] States has become too balkanized for the required unity to ever again be achieved.

I believe it was a noted economist who said, simply, that things will continue until they no longer can.

THAT is our future...

[roamer_1]

Guess I touched a few nerves. That was intentional.

It's not "what should be done". Posters above are right about that.

Rather, it's about what WILL be done. I stand by what I've posted.

There may have been... there WAS... a previous time (or times) in our history when difficult decisions were made with the blessings of the entire nation, by which difficult problems were overcome.

That is no longer possible, and will not be possible again so long as the current 50 states comprise "one nation". The [formerly United] States has become too balkanized for the required unity to ever again be achieved.

I believe it was a noted economist who said, simply, that things will continue until they no longer can.

THAT is our future...

I'll agree with that. But again, that doesn't mean I should approve of it. Or vote for it.
If the Republicans can't be conservative, then I can't vote for em.

[Hoodat]

It's not "what should be done". Posters above are right about that.

Rather, it's about what WILL be done. I stand by what I've posted.

The reason it WILL be done is because people continue to vote for people who do it.  Maybe if you insisted on Conservative government instead of settling for Democrat-lite (or in Trumps case, simply 'Democrat'), it would no longer be acceptable.

[LMAO]

I'll agree with that. But again, that doesn't mean I should approve of it. Or vote for it.
If the Republicans can't be conservative, then I can't vote for em.

He’s right in the sense that, as of now, there’s no real leadership on this issue. Look at what we have running this year for president.

But that shouldn’t be an excuse to go full steam ahead on spending. Our future into a Greece type situation isn’t inevitable

If Trump’s most dedicated supporters decided that these fiscal issues were important and pressured him on his economic plans, I believe he would acquiesce to their concerns

But not only do they not raise concerns about this issues, they approve of his spending and economic proposals. Again, because loyalty to him overrides all

[roamer_1]

He’s right in the sense that, as of now, there’s no real leadership on this issue. Look at what we have running this year for president.

But that shouldn’t be an excuse to go full steam ahead on spending. Our future into a Greece type situation isn’t inevitable

If Trump’s most dedicated supporters decided that these fiscal issues were important and pressured him on his economic plans, I believe he would acquiesce to their concerns

But not only do they not raise concerns about this issues, they approve of his spending and economic proposals. Again, because loyalty to him overrides all

All the more reason for folks like us to double-down. I demand Conservative representation.
Not just the trappings.
Not moving the goalposts.

The full 9 yards.
That includes, or in fact, BEGINS in fiscal conservatism.

Those who say otherwise are content with the candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade.

[LMAO]

Our only lifeline for now is mass gridlock were nothing gets done

No tariffs. No "Inflation Reduction" legislation. Nothing. Absolutely nothing

[roamer_1]

Our only lifeline for now is mass gridlock were nothing gets done

No tariffs. No "Inflation Reduction" legislation. Nothing. Absolutely nothing

I think the bill will come due. If not in this next administration, then the next after that. Inevitably, this is a self-correcting problem... The only thing to fight about is what might be left after that correction.

[Kamaji]

It may, in fact, be time to let the system burn itself down - with a little extra push - and prepare to be ready to start picking up the pieces afterward.

[DB]

He’s right in the sense that, as of now, there’s no real leadership on this issue. Look at what we have running this year for president.

But that shouldn’t be an excuse to go full steam ahead on spending. Our future into a Greece type situation isn’t inevitable

If Trump’s most dedicated supporters decided that these fiscal issues were important and pressured him on his economic plans, I believe he would acquiesce to their concerns

But not only do they not raise concerns about this issues, they approve of his spending and economic proposals. Again, because loyalty to him overrides all

I've said it all along, MAGA and Democrats are just a different flavor of big government. The problem is big government, not the flavor.

[roamer_1]

I've said it all along, MAGA and Democrats are just a different flavor of big government. The problem is big government, not the flavor.

YUP. The voice is different, but the breath smells the same. 

[LMAO]

I've said it all along, MAGA and Democrats are just a different flavor of big government. The problem is big government, not the flavor.

In 2016, a percentage of Obama voters switched to Trump. These aren't people that embrace things like free markets and free trade.  MAGA mindset isn't "how can we reign in the size and scope of government?"  It's "what will the government do for us?"

That's why, like progressivism, MAGA-ism doesn't really work

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

It may, in fact, be time to let the system burn itself down - with a little extra push - and prepare to be ready to start picking up the pieces afterward.

Maybe with this Mileau guy, there will be a global push for bullion backed currency?

[Free Vulcan]

When this house of cards falls, it's going to be seismic.

I figure we are like a big glass house, it'll stand till the big boulder comes hurtling down the mountain.