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Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« on: June 19, 2024, 12:56:22 pm »
Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
By Julian Spencer-Churchill
June 19, 2024


Canada’s defense minister Bill Blair has declared, by strangely including future spending on its arctic surveillance network, that “I believe it brings us inevitably to over 2 per cent of defence spending.” This is an old Canadian trick of appealing to American anxieties of missile attack, satisfying the Canadian public’s fantasies about an Arctic presence, and avoiding deploying anything larger than a brigade, anywhere, ever. The official NATO estimate of Canada’s defense effort is only 1.33% of GDP. Canada is currently the world’s ninth largest economy, and the most productive major manufacturer committed to unilateral disarmament. A combination of incipient anti-Americanism, which creeps in as early as grade school history education, coupled with a federal government focused narrowly on the material well-being of Canadians, disincentivizes political leadership from spending political capital on international relations. From the perspective of a Canadian, U.S. politics oscillates wildly from expensive international engagement to isolationist hostility against international norms and institutions. Canadians, in contrast, proudly embrace joining international organizations that demand little of it. The Liberal Party, the current government in Ottawa, has disingenuously and repeated conjured non-existent economic crises to fend off the mantra-like requests of the U.S. ambassador to Canada, David Cohen, for an outline of Canada’s strategy to contribute to the collective defense of democracy. There is plenty of available money in Ottawa: the number of federal public service employees has increased by an unprecedented 40 percent since 2015, to 357,000, with a commensurate 30.9 percent jump in personnel expenditures between just 2019 and 2022. A month’s worth of Russian or Chinese conventional missile volleys fired at Canada’s vulnerable energy sector, would almost certainly be able to inflict more damage than Ottawa’s entire 2024 defense budget of US$ 24.2bn (IISS Military Balance 2024).

Deploying an army battalion to Estonia, dispatching a frigate to the Straits of Formosa, and updating the Northern Warning System in the Arctic, seems the extreme bare minimum contribution Canada should make. Canada is indeed a middle power, as measured by the size and stability of its economy, but Ottawa’s foreign policy has always been one of free riding on its democratic allies. Nestled safely between the 1867 United States purchase of Russian Alaska, to the relief of the British who could no longer afford to pay for Canada’s security, and Greenland (despite Washington’s 1946 failed bid to buy it from Denmark), Canada has little incentive to make the difficult defense choices. When Canadian Progressive Conservative Prime Minister John Diefenbacker (1957-63) took the politically risky decision to address the serious issue of nuclear weapons in Canada, a cabinet split led to a vote of non-confidence and his defeat in the subsequent elections. The subsequent Prime Minister, Liberal Lester Pearson (1963-68), simply brought them in without debate. He, and his successor, Pierre Trudeau (1968-79, 1980-84), embarked Canada on a dramatic disarmament during the Cold War, atrophying its contribution to European defense to a weak brigade at Lahr, Germany, and abandoning its two aircraft carriers, the Bonaventure and Magnificent, intended to contribute to the security of maritime trade routes, to scrap.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2024/06/19/canada_is_americas_least_helpful_ally_1038913.html
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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2024, 12:57:52 pm »
i doubt any country is straining at the bit to entice Canada to be an ally! **nononono*
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2024, 10:04:11 pm »
Sixty percent of the oil we do import comes from Canada, eh.

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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2024, 05:40:43 am »
Sixty percent of the oil we do import comes from Canada, eh.

Since Biden is draining our Strategic Petroleum Reserve without replacing it, he must think he can rely on Canada to be the reserve. :shrug:
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2024, 05:49:22 am »
Sixty percent of the oil we do import comes from Canada, eh.

The only other candian export higher than 60% is cold fronts. Like maple syrup Canada's evil oozes all over the US.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2024, 06:38:14 pm »
Wingnut leans into the curve with:
"The only other candian export higher than 60% is cold fronts..."

I wish they'd "export" some of that "cold front" down here -- 94 today in SW New England.
(I'm usually "gettin' hot" when the temp rises above 75...)

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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2024, 06:55:12 pm »
Say what you will about Canada but one thing is true; they're always there when they need us.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2024, 07:01:04 pm »
Say what you will about Canada but one thing is true; they're always there when they need us.

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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2024, 07:47:17 pm »
Since Biden is draining our Strategic Petroleum Reserve without replacing it, he must think he can rely on Canada to be the reserve. :shrug:
He knows he can't.
Day one he shut down the Keystone XL pipeline, which was to have transported up to 800,000 barrels of Alberta Tar Sands crude to refineries in the US.

You think that hasn't hurt Canada?
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2024, 07:47:33 pm »
Say what you will about Canada but one thing is true; they're always there when they need us.
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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2024, 12:41:40 pm »
Ditto. ????

What?

Canada has an historic pattern of giving us the least support possible while turning around and bitching at us (even still) because we didn't get involved in their wars (WW1, WW2, Rwanda, etc) when it suited them.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2024, 01:32:00 pm »
Canada has an historic pattern of giving us the least support possible while turning around and bitching at us (even still) because we didn't get involved in their wars (WW1, WW2, Rwanda, etc) when it suited them.

"Say what you will about Canada but one thing is true; they're always there when they need us."

Just a little confused as that is not what your prior post stated. :shrug:

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2024, 01:36:02 pm »
"Say what you will about Canada but one thing is true; they're always there when they need us."

Just a little confused as that is not what your prior post stated. :shrug:

Maybe Smokin Joe can explain it to you. Because that's exactly what my prior post said. He gets it.
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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2024, 01:37:29 pm »
Let me try to explain:

Canada isn't always there when we need them.

But they're always there when they need us.
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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2024, 01:40:16 pm »
I used to sometimes check in on a Canadian forum because they had more interest in world events.

They would always bitch about the USA not getting involved in WW1 and WW2 right at the start.

And then they'd also bitch about us getting too involved in other people's business.

They could never reconcile these two issues. Eventually the forum went batsnot leftist and I stopped bothering with it. 
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2024, 01:43:48 pm »
Let me try to explain:

Canada isn't always there when we need them.

But they're always there when they need us.

What you stated about Canada is obvious -- that's not how I interpreted your first post.

Anyways --  no big deal -- I'll get used to your posting style. 
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2024, 01:50:23 pm »
Anyways --  no big deal -- I'll get used to your posting style.

A small disclosure: I'm a bit autistic and narrative flow isn't always a thing for me. I tend to post a series of linked thoughts as opposed to posting a narrative with a defined start, middle, and end.

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2024, 01:54:26 pm »
Say what you will about Canada but one thing is true; they're always there when they need us.
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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2024, 02:17:26 pm »
A small disclosure: I'm a bit autistic and narrative flow isn't always a thing for me. I tend to post a series of linked thoughts as opposed to posting a narrative with a defined start, middle, and end.

 :shrug:

No worries. I definitely am not judging. I get what you meant now anyways.   :beer:
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2024, 02:28:20 pm »
I used to sometimes check in on a Canadian forum because they had more interest in world events.

They would always bitch about the USA not getting involved in WW1 and WW2 right at the start.

And then they'd also bitch about us getting too involved in other people's business.

They could never reconcile these two issues. Eventually the forum went batsnot leftist and I stopped bothering with it.

Everything I see and hear about these Canadians makes me wanna puke!
 It's time we put the "America" back in North America!
Not to mention but Canadians are always dreaming up a lotta ways to ruin our lives. The metric system, for the love of God! Celsius! Neil Young!
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Re: Canada is America’s Least Helpful Ally
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2024, 02:28:43 pm »
Canadians did fight in the World Wars and Afghanistan.

At least Canada is an Arctic buffer state against Russia.

Saudi Arabia's relationship with the US is far more parasitic than Canada's.  The Canadians were not behind 9/11; the Saudi's were.




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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2024, 02:36:26 pm »
Canada has an historic pattern of giving us the least support possible while turning around and bitching at us (even still) because we didn't get involved in their wars (WW1, WW2, Rwanda, etc) when it suited them.
Considering Canada did not become wholly independent until 1982 ( https://www.britannica.com/event/Canada-Act ) those wars are primarily UK influences being echoed by a Commonwealth nation. Their wars were English wars, for all practical purposes. The coins and currency that trickle across the border still have the English monarch on them. :shrug:
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2024, 02:44:33 pm »
Still, Canada did not attack us on 9/11, but Saudi Arabia did.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2024, 07:28:57 pm »
Say what you will about Canada but one thing is true; they're always there when they need us.

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I like that.  Could definitely say the same about the French as well.