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Israeli military announces 'tactical pause' to try to increase aid flow into Gaza
NBC News, Jun 16, 2024, Associated Press

JERUSALEM — Israel’s military announced on Sunday that it would pause fighting during daytime hours along a route in southern Gaza to free up a backlog of humanitarian aid deliveries for desperate Palestinians enduring a humanitarian crisis sparked by the war, now in its ninth month.

The “tactical pause,” which applies to about 7.5 miles of road in the Rafah area, falls far short of a complete cease-fire in the territory that has been sought by the international community, including Israel’s top ally, the United States. It could help address some of the overwhelming needs of Palestinians that have surged in recent weeks with Israel’s incursion into Rafah.

The army said the daily pause would begin at 8 a.m. (5 a.m. GMT, 1 a.m. ET) and last until 7 p.m. and continue until further notice. It is aimed at allowing aid trucks to reach the nearby Israel-controlled Kerem Shalom crossing, the main entry point for aid, and travel safely to the Salah a-Din highway, a main north-south road, the military said. The crossing has had a bottleneck since Israeli ground troops moved into Rafah in early May.

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With Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowing to press ahead with the war and many members of his far-right government opposed to the cease-fire proposal, news of the military’s pause triggered a minor political storm. An Israeli official quoted Netanyahu as saying the plan was “unacceptable to him” when he learned of it. The official said Netanyahu received assurances that “there is no change” in the military’s policy and the “fighting in Rafah continues as planned.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

Israeli TV stations later quoted Netanyahu as criticizing the military: “We have a country with an army, not an army with a country.”

But neither Netanyahu nor the army canceled the new arrangement. While the army insisted “there is no cessation of fighting” in southern Gaza, it also said the new route would be open during daytime hours “exclusively for the transportation of humanitarian aid.”


More: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-military-announces-tactical-pause-try-increase-aid-flow-gaza-rcna157383

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Watch where the 'aid' goes, and Hamas will be at the end, or at least directing traffic.
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IDF spokesman says Hamas can’t be destroyed, drawing response from Netanyahu
Times of Israel, June 19, 2024



IDF Spokesperson Daniel Hagari has cast the goal of eradicating the Hamas terror group as unattainable, drawing a response from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

“Hamas is an idea. Those who think it can be made to disappear are wrong,” Hagari tells Channel 13 news in an interview, adding that anyone promising this is “misleading the public.”

“If the government doesn’t find an alternative — it will remain” in Gaza, he argues.

In response, Netanyahu’s office says in a statement that his security cabinet “has defined as one of the war goals the destruction of Hamas’s military and governance capabilities.”

“The IDF is of course committed to this,” the statement adds.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-spokesman-says-hamas-cant-be-destroyed-drawing-response-from-netanyahu/

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Of course you can't destroy ideology (think Isis). But as Netanyahu stated, destroy the supplies, the infrastructure and the leaders they might become more manageable. For a while at least.

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Of course you can't destroy ideology (think Isis).

Sure you can.

Naziism, Bushido, slavery, feudalism, etc. have all been destroyed in the past.

And the leftards are right now doing a pretty good job of destroying the family, heterosexual parents, patriotism, America, decency, Christianity, Judaism, etc.
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Sure you can.

Naziism, Bushido, slavery, feudalism, etc. have all been destroyed in the past.

And the leftards are right now doing a pretty good job of destroying the family, heterosexual parents, patriotism, America, decency, Christianity, Judaism, etc.

I wonder how many soldiers fighting in Europe or in the Pacific in the 1940s would’ve believed that we Japan and Germany would be our allies one day?


I watched a documentary several years ago of how the youth  in Germany and Japan had to be de programmed after the war. These movements have never heard anything beyond the propaganda spewed by their government. No different than any young person who is in the liberal arts program of universities such as Harvard, Berkeley, Etc., etc.

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Well the pacification of Germany was a huge success.

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Sure you can.

Naziism, Bushido, slavery, feudalism, etc. have all been destroyed in the past.

And the leftards are right now doing a pretty good job of destroying the family, heterosexual parents, patriotism, America, decency, Christianity, Judaism, etc.




I don't think all the things mentioned have been destroyed. Maybe minimalized in some countries...or taken underground.

The left is absolutely giving it a go to destroy family, patriotism, religion,  etc.  It maybe happening in urban areas. But a large part of this country are "fly over" and cling to their Bibles and guns. 

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And the leftards are right now doing a pretty good job of destroying the family, heterosexual parents, patriotism, America, decency, Christianity, Judaism, etc.

It's a pity your focus is on fixing the problems of others instead of saving your own country and its charter.

Considering the invasion overtaking our sovereignty, the collapse of our rule of law, our economic peril, and erasure of our social norms, we don't have the luxury of playing big man on the global campus.  Now is the time to refocus on securing the US and stopping our self-destruction.

Never was this admonishment from Washington more appropriate than it is right now:

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It's a pity your focus is on fixing the problems of others instead of saving your own country and its charter.

It's a pity that you don't understand that the problems of others are also our problems too...i.e. Islamic terrorism.  But I guess you forgot all about 9/11, as well as the long, brutal history of Palestinian terrorism.  Ever hear of Black September? Or a U.S. Navy diver named Robert Stethem?
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It's a pity that you don't understand that the problems of others are also our problems too...i.e. Islamic terrorism.  But I guess you forgot all about 9/11, as well as the long, brutal history of Palestinian terrorism.  Ever hear of Black September? Or a U.S. Navy diver named Robert Stethem?

You mentioned Islamic terrorists; they ARE being allowed in as well as Chinese militants.  Who's going to strike us from within first??

Either we firmly commit to closing and securing our borders first and foremost or we will see another 9/11 on a much grander scale.

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It's a pity that you don't understand that the problems of others are also our problems too...i.e. Islamic terrorism.

 But I guess you forgot all about 9/11

Impossible.  One doesn't forget the sight and sound of a jetliner slamming into the Pentagon.

But, your statement does prove Netanyahu was right when he said "9-11 was very good for Israel".

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You mentioned Islamic terrorists; they ARE being allowed in as well as Chinese militants.  Who's going to strike us from within first??

Either we firmly commit to closing and securing our borders first and foremost or we will see another 9/11 on a much grander scale.

So how exactly is this an "either/or" process?  The U.S. can do both simultaneously, and has for many years.  But the Biden regime refuses to do so.
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I don't think all the things mentioned have been destroyed. Maybe minimalized in some countries...or taken underground.

The left is absolutely giving it a go to destroy family, patriotism, religion,  etc.  It maybe happening in urban areas. But a large part of this country are "fly over" and cling to their Bibles and guns.

The indoctrination of our youth in the schools is a huge problem.  That's, that issue.  The biggest issue is our open borders.  Being attacked from within could easily happen; even the FBI has given warning.  Biden and Congress don't seem to care, or are they going to wait till all of our cities are lit up like the 4th of July???  What is it going to take for people to realize how corrupt this government is??

Yes this administration scares the hell out of me.

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So how exactly is this an "either/or" process?  The U.S. can do both simultaneously, and has for many years.  But the Biden regime refuses to do so.

Yes absolutely we should be able to do both and you are right Biden's administration is purposefully trying to take down this Republic.  Just my opinion.

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But, your statement does prove Netanyahu was right when he said "9-11 was very good for Israel".

Which is NOT what he said.  Here's his actual quote, as reported in a the now-defunct Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv in 2008:

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“We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.” Netanyahu then reportedly said that these events “swung American public opinion in our favor.”

https://www.haaretz.com/2008-04-16/ty-article/report-netanyahu-says-9-11-terror-attacks-good-for-israel/0000017f-db7e-db22-a17f-ffff07ea0000

Or in other words, 9/11 and the GWOT finally opened American eyes to the domestic threat of Islamic terrorism , both in the U.S. and in Israel, at that time. 

So how was Netanyahu wrong about that?

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Which is NOT what he said.  Here's his actual quote, as reported in a the now-defunct Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv in 2008:

"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.” Netanyahu then reportedly said that these events “swung American public opinion in our favor.”

Swinging American public (and Congressional) opinion to Israel's favor meant taking the occupation --- and resistance to it --- off the table as a reason for any Palestinian uprising.  It worked like a charm for 20 years. 

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Swinging American public (and Congressional) opinion to Israel's favor meant taking the occupation --- and resistance to it --- off the table as a reason for any Palestinian uprising.  It worked like a charm for 20 years.

What "occupation?"  And by "resistance," you mean Palestinian terrorism, as in suicide bombers and rocket attacks?











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You mentioned Islamic terrorists; they ARE being allowed in as well as Chinese militants.  Who's going to strike us from within first??

Either we firmly commit to closing and securing our borders first and foremost or we will see another 9/11 on a much grander scale.
Sadly, the question isn't who (which group) will strike,it is a question of who or what the results of that strike will be blamed on by the propaganda industry.

How quickly "far-Right extremists" are blamed for the world's ills, when those on the political Right (and no, National SOOCIALISTS belong on the Left) are the least likely to engage in such behaviour. Totalitarians of every imaginable stripe are the enemy, here, and as Walt Kelly wrote in Pogo, "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Sadly, through the ministrations of the Propaganda industry, everything from schoolbooks, to 'entertainment', to what passes as News is infused with the very enslaving drivel those who would be our masters promulgate, while the truly empowering words of individual freedom are suppressed as "Far-Right propaganda".

We have reached the point where those who would be free are rebels indeed.
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What "occupation?"  And by "resistance," you mean Palestinian terrorism, as in suicide bombers and rocket attacks?

Your comment proves how well Netanyahu's gamble has paid off.   He's a legend in the world of effective propaganda for good reasons. :





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Your comment proves how well Netanyahu's gamble has paid off.   He's a legend in the world of effective propaganda for good reasons. :

So you're now claiming that Palestinian terrorism, including all those suicide bombers and hijackers, is only "effective propaganda?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3256858.stm

Seriously?
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So you're now claiming that Palestinian terrorism, including all those suicide bombers and hijackers, is only "effective propaganda?"

Nope. 

I'm pointing out Netanyahu using the carnage of 9-11 --- to erase Israeli control and occupation of the unannexted Palestinian territories as even a possible cause of Palestinian resistance and rebellion --- is the propaganda.  He used our worst day in modern history to fold any debate on Palestinian reststance into it's all just terrorism for terrorism sake.

He turned continuation of a then 37 year old war into a fate au complet that remains beyond reproach 20 years later ---- insuring "9-11 was very good for Israel".

Gotta give him credit where credit is due --- Netanyahu pulled off the quintessential example of "never let a crisis go to waste".  It was a masterstroke of propaganda.




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Nope. 

I'm pointing out Netanyahu using the carnage of 9-11 --- to erase Israeli control and occupation of the unannexted Palestinian territories as even a possible cause of Palestinian resistance and rebellion --- is the propaganda.  He used our worst day in modern history to fold any debate on Palestinian reststance into it's all just terrorism for terrorism sake.

He turned continuation of a then 37 year old war into a fate au complet that remains beyond reproach 20 years later ---- insuring "9-11 was very good for Israel".

Gotta give him credit where credit is due --- Netanyahu pulled off the quintessential example of "never let a crisis go to waste".  It was a masterstroke of propaganda.

That's just a bunch of utter nonsense, and as I pointed out with a solid news link, Netanyahu never said what you claim he said.  And there is NO occupation, and there is NO Palestine, and the "resistance" a you speak of is blatant terrorism. 

So you're actually a terrorist sympathizer? 
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Your comment proves how well Netanyahu's gamble has paid off.   He's a legend in the world of effective propaganda for good reasons. :
Well whatever you say :whistle: But all I know is Netanyahu is a piker as far as being a propagandist compared to you for Trump :silly: :silly: :silly: Why don't you just keep your Israel posts simple with IT'S DA JOOOOOOS!!!

Just sayin :shrug: