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 Inside Trump’s veepstakes: Top contender falls down shortlist — ‘Not a standout or game-changer’
By Social Links for Diana Glebova and
Social Links for Steven Nelson
Published June 12, 2024
Updated June 12, 2024, 4:26 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott — long seen as the odds-on favorite to be Donald Trump’s running mate this year — is slipping in the VP race and is now widely seen by people close to the presumptive Republican nominee as “extremely unlikely” to be chosen, The Post has learned.

Scott, 58, was considered the leading choice for much of the past year due to his passionate support for Trump, 77, and the possibility that he could help draw black voters into the Republican fold, a trend that polls indicate already is underway.

The mercurial Trump is expected to announce his pick sometime in the next month and could still choose Scott — but sources familiar with the situation say the chances are becoming more remote.

“I think it is extremely unlikely he will be picked,” said one insider. “You go down the list of reasons to choose a VP, and he isn’t a standout or game-changer in any category.”

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IMHO he just doesn't speak with enough conviction in his voice and perhaps most importantly, I don't think he'd be ready to jump into the president's seat should he need to.

My hunch is that Trump will select Little Marco.

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My hunch is that Trump will select Little Marco.

I'd say Stefanik. I'd almost lay money on it.

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IMHO he just doesn't speak with enough conviction in his voice and perhaps most importantly, I don't think he'd be ready to jump into the president's seat should he need to.

My hunch is that Trump will select Little Marco.

How would he get around that little twelfth amendment thing @libertybele
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IMHO he just doesn't speak with enough conviction in his voice and perhaps most importantly, I don't think he'd be ready to jump into the president's seat should he need to.

My hunch is that Trump will select Little Marco.

Then we can kill a year or two while the Dems sue Trump again and again for them being from the same State.  Aw, heck.  Why not?
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How would he get around that little twelfth amendment thing @libertybele

There have been reports that Rubio would be willing to move out of FL if selected.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/3020077/rubio-shed-florida-residency-trumps-vice-president-report/
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Then we can kill a year or two while the Dems sue Trump again and again for them being from the same State.  Aw, heck.  Why not?

Rubio would be willing to move out of FL. 

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   Scott always reminded me, in his public statements, of The Jerk.


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I think it's a little too late for that now.

Perhaps and I'm definitely not a Rubio fan.

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Rubio would be willing to move out of FL.

Still a bad idea.  Rubio "Gang of Eight " would be just like Pence.  He has a cake job already.
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Still a bad idea.  Rubio "Gang of Eight " would be just like Pence.  He has a cake job already.

I absolutely agree. Rubio didn't win his home state in '16 because of his Gang of Eight affiliation; he thought people would forget.  He thought wrong.

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Still a bad idea.  Rubio "Gang of Eight " would be just like Pence.  He has a cake job already.

Absolutely! Why would anyone believe that Rubio would buck the deep state at this point?
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   WTF would Trump even consider him?  He is part of the Intelligence committee in the Senate.  He knew what hellary was doing with the Russian collusion crap, among many things that have transpired the last 10 years, yet Trump still considers him   :shrug:

   Should be an indication to anybody (but the hard core Trumpers) that Trump is still stuck in stupid mode concerning appointments.   
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How would he get around that little twelfth amendment thing @libertybele

The 12th says that electors cannot cast votes for a President and VP from the same state.

However, those votes don't get cast until sometime in December.  Rubio could run as VP and not change his residence until after the election, and only if they win.  As long as he's officially a resident of another state before the date the Electors cast their ballots, that should be okay.

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I absolutely agree. Rubio didn't win his home state in '16 because of his Gang of Eight affiliation; he thought people would forget.  He thought wrong.

Gang of 8 was a decade ago, and a lot of people have changed their minds on immigration since then.  I think Rubio may have supported the Gang of 8 because he thought that was the way to bring Latinos over to the GOP.  Time has proved him wrong, and he's become increasingly hawkish on immigration over time.

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IMHO he just doesn't speak with enough conviction in his voice and perhaps most importantly, I don't think he'd be ready to jump into the president's seat should he need to.

My hunch is that Trump will select Little Marco.

Nah.  Rubio brings nothing to the ticket.  Trump doesn't need him to win Florida or help with the Hispanic vote --- or the hassles of screwing around with primary residencies.

And, Rubio's too short.




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The 12th says that electors cannot cast votes for a President and VP from the same state.

However, those votes don't get cast until sometime in December.  Rubio could run as VP and not change his residence until after the election, and only if they win.  As long as he's officially a resident of another state before the date the Electors cast their ballots, that should be okay.

So how long does it take to establish residency in most states? @Maj. Bill Martin
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The 12th says that electors cannot cast votes for a President and VP from the same state.

However, those votes don't get cast until sometime in December.  Rubio could run as VP and not change his residence until after the election, and only if they win.  As long as he's officially a resident of another state before the date the Electors cast their ballots, that should be okay.

It's nothing a two-year investigation and a likely Impeachment won't fix, right?
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So how long does it take to establish residency in most states? @Maj. Bill Martin

Well...that's the question, isn't it?  Some states only require only moving to that state, and taking actions/stating intent to establish a domicile.

So I just checked D.C., and it looks like you need proof that you have a residence there -- mortgage or lease, and utility bills.  That's for their DMV.  The more broad "resident" status for taxing purposes say you must be "domiciled" there.  That usually requires taking some steps establishing intent, like filing to be taxed in that location, etc..  But that usually doesn't require a specific amount of time as much as simply the expressed intent to stay.  And of course, it wouldn't have to be D.C.  He literally could pick any state with the lightest standards.

Once he figured that out, he'd likely do some of the steps before the election, like renting some place and getting bills in his name, etc..  Then if he won, he'd simply have to announce he's moving to that state, go there, and do the final steps.  Obviously would have to resign the governorship quickly.  But legally, I'm pretty sure it could be done.

Different situation if the residency requirement applied at the time of voting, but it doesn't.  Just has to be at the time electors actually vote in December.
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Well...that's the question, isn't it?  Some states only require only moving to that state, and taking actions/stating intent to establish a domicile.

So I just checked D.C., and it looks like you need proof that you have a residence there -- mortgage or lease, and utility bills.  That's for their DMV.  The more broad "resident" status for taxing purposes say you must be "domiciled" there.  That usually requires taking some steps establishing intent, like filing to be taxed in that location, etc..  But that usually doesn't require a specific amount of time as much as simply the expressed intent to stay.

I'm sure that the law dogs can find a niche somewhere to accommodate anything.
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I'm sure that the law dogs can find a niche somewhere to accommodate anything.



Some where in the back of my mind I seem to remember Cheney doing something similar when he ran with Bush. I know he had a house in Highland Park and may have had a residence in Wyoming as well. :shrug:

Really not important enough to research.

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Gang of 8 was a decade ago, and a lot of people have changed their minds on immigration since then.  I think Rubio may have supported the Gang of 8 because he thought that was the way to bring Latinos over to the GOP.  Time has proved him wrong, and he's become increasingly hawkish on immigration over time.

He lost his home state in '16; one reason was because of his affiliation with the Gang of Eight. People don't forget that easily.  I didn't vote for him again. Secondly he vacated his seat in the Senate and vowed to get out of politics .... well, funny though that DeSantis was vying for his seat when he opted to leave and then Rubio decided he wanted his seat back.  I am glad eventually DeSantis became governor. Rubio is a RINO through and through. 

What Rubio may think was a way to win Latino's over in the past, he's only spouting what the masses now want to hear in hopes he'll be viewed differently. Sorry he's a RINO. 

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Some where in the back of my mind I seem to remember Cheney doing something similar when he ran with Bush. I know he had a house in Highland Park and may have had a residence in Wyoming as well. :shrug:

Really not important enough to research.

Yes  I believe Cheney did. 

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Tim Scott doesn't strike me as particularly, uh...masculine.  I personally don't care, but I would fully expect Democrats to spread those rumors among black voters where homosexuality is really frowned upon, especially by men.