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Vladimir Putin facing fresh hell as Ukraine 'slaughters 90 percent of invasion force'

Daily Express US
By JOHN VARGA
June 10, 2024

Vladimir Putin's army is struggling to keep up its momentum in its Kharkiv offensive, as it continues to suffer huge casualties.

The Russians caught Ukraine off-guard when they launched a surprise incursion into the Kharkiv region in early May.

Initially, Putin's troops made rapid gains and quickly closed in on the city of Vovchansk, just 73km from Ukraine's second-largest city.

The Kremlin claimed it wanted to create a buffer zone to prevent cross-border raids and shelling by Kyiv's army.

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https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/139940/vladimir-putin-army-casualties-russia-ukraine-war
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This quote from the article shows that the headline is, at best, very misleading:

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Back in December, US officials estimated that Russia had sustained at least 315,000 casualties, almost 90 percent of its original invading force.

In plain English:

* Putin's February 2022 invasion force was ~350K troops;

* In the nearly 2 years from that time to December 2023, Russia had suffered ~315K casualties;

* The ~315K casualties is cumulative over a long time period, not a brief time period as the headline suggests;

* "Casualties" includes those wounded and captured; ~315K troops were not "slaughtered";

* Very obviously, Russia has and is substantially reinforced their invading forces; the effects of the losses of troops and equipment have corresponding losses in Ukraine, but does mean Russian plans to invade Moldova, the Balkans countries, and Poland have been severely disrupted.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2024, 11:03:59 am by PeteS in CA »
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* Very obviously, Russia has and is substantially reinforced their invading forces; the effects of the losses of troops and equipment have corresponding losses in Ukraine, but does mean Russian plans to invade Moldova, the Balkans countries, and Poland have been severely disrupted.

I don't know. The Russians lately have amped up their propaganda for their domestic audience and they're priming people for:

1. Use of tactical nuclear weapons, maybe more.
2. A full scale war to invade and conquer all of Europe.

See these two bit from the Russia state media:

Sergey Karaganov says God wants a nuclear escalation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmTM6ciilGY

--- and ---

Vladimir Solovyov says Russia should advance to the Atlantic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO45BmVZTLU


They broadcast crap like this and then wonder why NATO is preparing to defend itself.  *****rollingeyes*****
« Last Edit: June 11, 2024, 12:55:55 pm by MeganC »
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The Kremlin claimed it wanted to create a buffer zone to prevent cross-border raids and shelling by Kyiv's army.

This is what the Kremlin means by "buffer zone":


from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1d6fl9k/volchansk_kharkov_region_now_it_looks_like_this/
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A formerly great power.

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A formerly great power.

There is a lot of scrap Russian steel and Russian aluminum strewn around Ukraine that will be unavailable for Russia to invade Moldova, Poland, or one of the Balkan countries. More sadly, much of Putin's cannon fodder is dead or maimed - sad for their families, of course, Putin doesn't care. Those 300K or 400K or however-many-K military-aged men and their training/experience won't be replaced in just a year or two.
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There is a lot of scrap Russian steel and Russian aluminum strewn around Ukraine that will be unavailable for Russia to invade Moldova, Poland, or one of the Balkan countries. More sadly, much of Putin's cannon fodder is dead or maimed - sad for their families, of course, Putin doesn't care. Those 300K or 400K or however-many-K military-aged men and their training/experience won't be replaced in just a year or two.






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I don't know. The Russians lately have amped up their propaganda for their domestic audience and they're priming people for:

1. Use of tactical nuclear weapons, maybe more.
2. A full scale war to invade and conquer all of Europe.

See these two bit from the Russia state media:

Sergey Karaganov says God wants a nuclear escalation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmTM6ciilGY

--- and ---

Vladimir Solovyov says Russia should advance to the Atlantic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO45BmVZTLU


They broadcast crap like this and then wonder why NATO is preparing to defend itself.  *****rollingeyes*****


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Putin may have no choice now but to use tactical nuclear weapons?

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Putin may have no choice now but to use tactical nuclear weapons?

Please don't say that.  888mouth

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Putin may have no choice now but to use tactical nuclear weapons?

See below:
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Putin may have no choice now but to use tactical nuclear weapons?

Putin always has a choice.  Putin is the aggressor here..  Putin can end this today by withdrawing his troops from Ukraine.
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Putin always has a choice.  Putin is the aggressor here..  Putin can end this today by withdrawing his troops from Ukraine.

Sure, life is full of choices, but I doubt that Putin is going to stop now.  He needs to save face and he escalated the war when he did for a reason.

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Sure, life is full of choices, but I doubt that Putin is going to stop now.  He needs to save face and he escalated the war when he did for a reason.

Well either you yield to bully who wants your stuff or you don't. I vote you don't.

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Using tactical nukes is unlikely IMO (thank god). For one thing, they're untested technology and we don't really know their effectiveness. There are too many unknowns for them to be practical. Of course, it all depends on how crazy Putin is and we all know he is batshit insane.

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Well either you yield to bully who wants your stuff or you don't. I vote you don't.

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Well either you yield to bully who wants your stuff or you don't. I vote you don't.


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Putin always has a choice.  Putin is the aggressor here..  Putin can end this today by withdrawing his troops from Ukraine.
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