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NSA Sullivan: ‘Innocent People Were Killed’ During Israel’s Hostage Rescue

Pam Key 9 Jun 2024

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” that it was tragic that innocent people were killed during the Israeli military operation that rescued four hostages who were kidnapped during the October 7, 2023 Hamas terror attack.

Anchor Dana Bash said, “I want to ask you a little bit more about that mission. One of the questions is what we’re hearing from Gaza, different hospitals in Gaza say at least 236 people were killed as a part of the Israeli operation to rescue hostages what is your understanding of how many Palestinian civilians, not militants, but civilians were killed in that rescue mission?”

Sullivan said, “We in the United States are not in a position today to make a definitive statement about that, the Israeli Defense Forces have put out one number and the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry has pulled out another number. But we do know this Dana innocent people were tragically killed in this operation.”

He continued, “The exact number we don’t know, but innocent people were killed and that is heartbreaking. That is tragic. The president himself has said in recent days that the Palestinian people are going through sheer hell in this conflict, because Hamas is operating in a way that puts them in the cross-fire. That holds hostages right in the heart of crowded civilian areas that puts military and placement that’s right in the heart of crowded civilian areas. But every day that we see more innocent people lost is another horrible, awful tragic day. Our hearts in the United States and across the world, break for that, but there is only one answer to stop that from happening going forward. That is a ceasefire and hostage deal that ends the military operations, brings the hostages home and puts us in a position to give the Palestinians and opportunity for for a better future for their people.”

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So, what?  Civilians were killed during virtually every Allied bombing raid over industrial and military targets in Japan and Germany.

When evil governments start wars, their populations are going to suffer the consequences.
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So, what?  Civilians were killed during virtually every Allied bombing raid over industrial and military targets in Japan and Germany.

When evil governments start wars, their populations are going to suffer the consequences.
And then there were the intentional fire bombings America carried out on HAMBURG, DRESDEN, AND TOKYO. It's war and no country is innocent of killing civilians either accidently or intentionally, personally I say if you are holding hostages kidnapped from their country you are not a civilian you are a combatant.

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The only death I'll mourn is the Israeli officer who lost his life rescuing these prisoners.
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There are no Innocent People in Gaza everyone belongs to Hamas even the children!

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The only death I'll mourn is the Israeli officer who lost his life rescuing these prisoners.

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Collaborators by definition are not innocent.
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Lets recap: the hostages were rescued and “innocent” civilian terrorist collaborators were killed. 

Sounds like a successful day for the IDF. 


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Collaborators by definition are not innocent.
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The people killed were the hostage-keepers and neighbors who helped the hostage-keepers. Sullivan is stupidly wrong, unsurprisingly. Sullivan is probably POed that Israel's rescue upset the negotians applecart.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

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If Palestinians didn't support Hamas, they wouldn't be suffering the consequences. Until enough of them are tired of the consequences they won't change their actions. I have zero sympathy for them.

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There are no Innocent People in Gaza everyone belongs to Hamas even the children!

I beg to differ.  Bari Weiss, on her Substack, had interviews with the son of an imam in Gaza who was perpetually hassled by Hamas for refusing to preach their anti-Semitic ideology.  There's the old woman who on camera was willing to scream about Hamas stealing all the food.  And there is the tiny Christian community associated with the Church of St. Dositheus of Gaza, the fourth oldest still-functioning parish church in the world (a parish of the Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem).  They're far and few between, but they are there -- and Hamas is thrilled to use them as human shields, deliberately putting them in harms way because they know their apologists in the West will blame Israel for any deaths, forgetting that colocating offensive military assets with civilians is a war crime which Hamas is committing.
And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was all about.

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If you want me to feel bad for Palestinian civilians, you’re gonna need to travel back in time and tell them to maybe not run out to the street to joyously beat the corpses of dead female civilians with sticks while they’re paraded around in the back of pickup trucks
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I try to keep giving the Pali citizens a break and think they might rise and oust Hamas. They are being starved and used as human shields. Even if they hate the Israelis that should pi$$ them off. Perhaps they are so conditioned? Or are disarmed?

At this point, I don't care. I'm not real sorry for the Palis that lost their lives during this rescue. Too bad, so sad.

As stated above, I will mourn the loss of the IDF soldier.

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If Palestinians didn't support Hamas, they wouldn't be suffering the consequences. Until enough of them are tired of the consequences they won't change their actions. I have zero sympathy for them.

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These "civilians" that the Democrats are crying and lighting candles for, WERE THE PEOPLE HOLDING THE HOSTAGES.
Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are all TOO STUPID TO LIVE.

I would say, "Would the Democrats be rending garments, throwing ash, and gnashing teeth, if the freed hostages were all Americans?" Except that I believe they would. Democrats and their followers are fanatically in favor of anything which disparages Western culture and tears down society in any way possible. Democrats and their cult members, are more on the side of Hamas than they are on the side of America.
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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CAIR Condemns Israeli Hostage Rescue: ‘Horrific Massacre’
 
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The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) condemned an Israeli raid Saturday in Gaza that led to the rescue of four Israeli hostages held by Hamas terrorists, saying that Israeli forces had committed a “horrific massacre.”

As Breitbart News reported Saturday, Israeli forces rescued Noa Argamani, 25; Almog Meir Jan, 21; Andrey Kozlov, 27; and Shlomi Ziv, 40 in a daring raid. Israeli police officer Arnon Zamora, who led the rescue, was killed in action.

Palestinian sources began complaining about the number of people killed in the raid — without specifying whether they were terrorists or civilians.
 
Hamas held the Israeli hostages among civilians, near a crowded marketplace in the central Gaza city of Nuseirat. It has rejected recent proposals for ceasefires and hostage releases.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/06/08/cair-condemns-israeli-hostage-rescue-horrific-massacre/
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Just what this country needs, more radical Islamists who think like CAIR.  They are sure to bring peace and understanding with them. *****rollingeyes*****
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