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Biden Says ‘Every Reason’ for People to Conclude Netanyahu Prolonging War for Political Gain

Joel B. Pollak 4 Jun 2024

U.S. President Joe Biden suggested in an interview published in Time magazine on Tuesday that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is prolonging the war in Gaza for “his own political self-preservation.”

From the interview transcript:

    Not at all. Some in Israel have suggested that Netanyahu is prolonging the war for his own political self-preservation. Do you believe that?

    Biden: I’m not going to comment on that. There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion. And I would cite tha as—before the war began, the blowback he was getting from the Israeli military for wanting to change the constitu—change the court. And so it’s an internal domestic debate that seems to have no consequence. And whether he would change his position or not, it’s hard to say, but it has not been helpful.


The transcript reveals Biden’s aides — including communications aide Ben LaBolt, and national security communications director John Kirby — hovering around Biden throughout, answering his questions.

The only Israelis suggesting that Netanyahu is deliberately prolonging the war are on the far left of the political spectrum. The Israeli public supports the continuation of the war in Gaza until victory by overwhelming margins.

Biden has been hostile to Netanyahu since the latter won his election in November 2022, refusing to meet with the Israeli leader for nearly a year. He traveled to Israel after the October 7 attacks, but has since backed efforts to oust Netanyahu.

Biden resents Netanyahu because the Israeli leader is resisting American pressure to accept a Palestinian state as an outcome of the war. The Israeli public overwhelmingly backs Netanyahu’s position on the issue after decades of Hamas terror.

Netanyahu is set to travel to Washington, DC, to address a special joint session of Congress — the first world leader to do so four times.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/06/04/biden-every-reason-for-people-to-conclude-netanyahu-prolonging-war-for-political-gain/
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Poor Joe, he simply can't comprehend the leader of a nation actually protecting his people......unless it's Zelenskyy and Ukraine.  :pondering: I wonder what is the difference between the two, why is Joe so upset about Netanyahu protecting his people compared to Zelenskyy?

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Poor Joe, he simply can't comprehend the leader of a nation actually protecting his people......unless it's Zelenskyy and Ukraine.  :pondering: I wonder what is the difference between the two, why is Joe so upset about Netanyahu protecting his people compared to Zelenskyy?

I wonder the same thing.  I conclude that Joe is benefiting from the Ukraine/Russia war and he's a lying dog-faced pony solider regarding Israel. 

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Poor Joe, he simply can't comprehend the leader of a nation actually protecting his people....

How is Netanyahu protecting his people @GtHawk ?

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Biden Says ‘Every Reason’ for People to Conclude Netanyahu Prolonging War for Political Gain

Joel B. Pollak 4 Jun 2024

U.S. President Joe Biden suggested in an interview published in Time magazine on Tuesday that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is prolonging the war in Gaza for “his own political self-preservation.”

Netanyahu’s Far-Right Partners Reject Cease-Fire Compromise
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/03/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-netanyahu-ceasefire.html

Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition slides into infighting over ceasefire plan
Israel’s far-right finance minister vows to oust prime minister if he accepts US-backed deal
https://www.ft.com/content/c3847778-23b0-4743-afb4-a1999f8d7318





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Netanyahu aide says Israel agreed to Biden's cease-fire plan for Gaza
Ophir Falk, chief foreign policy adviser to Netanyahu, said that it was “a deal we agreed to — it’s not a good deal but we dearly want the hostages released, all of them.”
NBC News, Jun 2, 2024

[...]

A deal is yet to be finalized, and while Biden initially called it an Israeli proposal, Israel’s official position remains unclear. NBC News has reached out to the Israeli prime minister’s office for clarification.

On Saturday, Netanyahu appeared to undermine the plan, releasing a statement that called a permanent cease-fire in Gaza a “nonstarter” until long-standing conditions for ending the war are met, reiterating that “Israel’s conditions for ending the war have not changed: the destruction of Hamas’s military and governing capabilities, the freeing of all hostages and ensuring that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel.”

In an interview Britain’s Sunday Times, Ophir Falk, chief foreign policy adviser to Netanyahu, emphasized that Israel was not rejecting the deal, saying that it was “a deal we agreed to — it’s not a good deal but we dearly want the hostages released, all of them.”

[...]

Far-right factions within Netanyahu’s Cabinet reacted strongly to the proposal laid out by Biden, exposing the competing domestic pressures Netanyahu faces.

Bezalel Smotrich, finance minister and chairman of the far-right Religious Zionist Party, said on X that he would “not be part of a government that agrees to the proposed outline and ends the war without destroying Hamas.”

Itamar Ben Gvir, national security minister and leader of the far-right Jewish Power Party, called the proposal “a victory for terrorism” that would mean “absolute defeat,” and threatened on X “to dissolve the government” should Netanyahu agree to the proposal.

Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid said the threats from Ben Gvir and Smotrich represented a “neglect of national security, of the hostages and of the residents of the north and the south.” Lapid had earlier pledged support to Netyanahu should he accept the deal in defiance of his far-right coalition partners.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/netanyahu-aide-israel-agreed-biden-cease-fire-plan-gaza-rcna155075

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How is Netanyahu protecting his people @GtHawk ?
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Netanyahu is prolonging war to avoid being put on trial in Israel for alleged crimes.

Invade Rafah, already.  Jeeesh.
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I'm sorry did you type something, because I can't hear you over the screeching of DA JOOOOS!

I asked how Netanyahu is protecting Israelis @GtHawk   I see you're really confused.  No worries though ---- no reasonable person can fault you for being stumped by the question.

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Stupidity like this invites the question of whether LIEden et al fear Israel will discover something LIEden et al don't want known, or whether they fear Israel will succeed, and thereby upset their cherished fantasy-applecart of how that part of the ME should be.
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American just needs to get out of the Middle East ... it's bleeding the Americans just as it bled the British and the Ottomans.
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I'm sorry did you type something, because I can't hear you over the screeching of DA JOOOOS!

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American just needs to get out of the Middle East ... it's bleeding the Americans just as it bled the British and the Ottomans.

America also needs to take a step back from Ukraine - stop sending them billions upon billions that we don't have. 

How about protecting our own country???

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Stupidity like this invites the question of whether LIEden et al fear Israel will discover something LIEden et al don't want known, or whether they fear Israel will succeed

Actually @PeteS in CA Netanyahu is trying to prevent his coalition government from collapsing and new elections being held.

Netanyahu’s Far-Right Partners Reject Cease-Fire Compromise
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/03/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-netanyahu-ceasefire.html

Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition slides into infighting over ceasefire plan
Israel’s far-right finance minister vows to oust prime minister if he accepts US-backed deal
https://www.ft.com/content/c3847778-23b0-4743-afb4-a1999f8d7318

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She is our number one antisemite on the site.

Once again:  Seeking peace, prosperity and global acceptance for the State of Israel is the opposite of antisemitic.

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What makes anyone think that they can coexist with people who only want to see them dead?
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Biden/Obama intentionally uses threats and coercion in every way possible to impede, delay, and deter Israel from winning the war.

Then Biden comes out with a statement saying that HE (Biden) has been successful in hindering Israel from winning/ending the war, but it is Netanyahu's fault. And that Netanyahu is doing it intentionally.

That is some fancy twisted logic.
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What makes anyone think that they can coexist with people who only want to see them dead?

@Bigun ---- the torch is quickly passing to a generation that does not see Israel as the one dangling off the precipitous.

What now?

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@Bigun ---- the torch is quickly passing to a generation that does not see Israel as the one dangling off the precipitous.

What now?

I don't see that changing a thing @Right_in_Virginia
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Maybe if Skeezy and friends would quit aiding and abetting Hamas things would get over quicker.
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@Bigun ---- the torch is quickly passing to a generation that does not see Israel as the one dangling off the precipitous.

What now?

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I don't see that changing a thing @Right_in_Virginia

I would think Boomers would feel a sense of urgency to settle this conflict once and for all before the world led by the new generation does.  :shrug:

But, I respect your opinion @Bigun

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I would think Boomers would feel a sense of urgency to settle this conflict once and for all before the world led by the new generation does.  :shrug:

But, I respect your opinion @Bigun

I'm all for settling this permanently @Right_in_Virginia but agreements and treaties won't get it done. Only changes in fundamental tenants of Islam can do that in my estimation.
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Are you talking about all the dead young people at the Nova Festival or the Palis?

It's not quite that simple @bigheadfred   While GenZers (the sane ones) do not condone the Oct 7 attack on Israel, they do not see it as an isolated, out of the blue event occurring in a vacuum. --- and the longer this battle in the war goes on, the more the lines between which side wants to see the other dead are blurring.

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'Sociopathic': Biden blasted for 'disgusting lie' on Netanyahu's handling of war with Hamas
Biden appeared to walk back his Netanyahu comment Tuesday
By Andrew Mark Miller Fox News
Published June 4, 2024 5:37pm EDT

President Biden was heavily criticized by conservatives on social media over an interview transcript in which he appeared to agree with the premise that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is prolonging his country's war with Hamas for his own political gain.

"Some in Israel have suggested that Netanyahu is prolonging the war for his own political self-preservation. Do you believe that?" Biden was asked by Time magazine in an interview published Tuesday.

"I'm not going to comment on that," Biden responded. "There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion. And I would cite that as — before the war began, the blowback he was getting from the Israeli military for wanting to change the constitu … change the court. And so it's an internal domestic debate that seems to have no consequence. And whether he would change his position or not, it's hard to say, but it has not been helpful."

Biden's response drew immediate negative reactions from many on social media.

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Biden falsely accusing Bibi of the very thing he is doing in Ukraine.  Prolonging the war by tying Ukraine's hands.
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Biden falsely accusing Bibi of the very thing he is doing in Ukraine.  Prolonging the war by tying Ukraine's hands.
He is doing the same in Israel, or trying to. Democrats (and many Republicans) LOVE war of any kind anywhere for any reason.

The reason does not matter to them. If Israel wins and the Ukraine war ended for any reason, another war would start somewhere/anywhere a month later.
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'Sociopathic': Biden blasted for 'disgusting lie' on Netanyahu's handling of war with Hamas
Biden appeared to walk back his Netanyahu comment Tuesday
By Andrew Mark Miller Fox News
Published June 4, 2024 5:37pm EDT

President Biden was heavily criticized by conservatives on social media over an interview transcript in which he appeared to agree with the premise that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is prolonging his country's war with Hamas for his own political gain.

I don't understand why this is so controversial when the majority of Israelis agree with the sentiment ----- they've been marching en masse thoughtout Israel for weeks calling for new elections.

Biden is certainly no better off.   In fact,  he and Netanyahu are mirror images ---- each an accomplished liar fighting for political survival.

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I don't understand why this is so controversial when the majority of Israelis agree with the sentiment ----- they've been marching en masse thoughtout Israel for weeks calling for new elections.

Biden is certainly no better off.   In fact,  he and Netanyahu are mirror images ---- each an accomplished liar fighting for political survival.

There is no denying the attack on Israel by Hamas on Oct 7.  Hamas invaded Israel, butchered babies and raped and tortured Israelis. So why is Bibi fighting back unacceptable???  To say he is a mirror image of Joe is quite a stretch.

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For 4 decades Israel has played Foggy Bottom's game of stopping short of dealing decisively with Arab Pali thug-groups. What LIEden demands Israel do has failed for four decades.

What LIEden calls "Prolonging War" is Israel breaking with LIEden's and Foggy Bottom's recipe for endless cycles of terrorism and trying to deal decisively with Hamas.
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For 4 decades Israel has played Foggy Bottom's game of stopping short of dealing decisively with Arab Pali thug-groups. What LIEden demands Israel do has failed for four decades.

What LIEden calls "Prolonging War" is Israel breaking with LIEden's and Foggy Bottom's recipe for endless cycles of terrorism and trying to deal decisively with Hamas.

Absolutely correct! And there is much more blood on the hands of the foggy bottom crowd than just this one example!
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What LIEden calls "Prolonging War" is Israel breaking with LIEden's and Foggy Bottom's recipe for endless cycles of terrorism and trying to deal decisively with Hamas.

This  pointing-up is wishful thinking and proof of how powerful propaganda truly is.

Netanyahu dealt decisively with Hamas by authorizing over one billion dollars in direct, unaudited payments to them.  How's that worked out?

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This  pointing-up is wishful thinking and proof of how powerful propaganda truly is.
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No, just observation-based conclusions that differ from your obsessive hatred.
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No, just observation-based conclusions that differ from your obsessive hatred.

Compelling stuff @PeteS in CA  ....

But, have you an answer for the question I asked? 

Netanyahu dealt decisively with Hamas by authorizing over one billion dollars in direct, unaudited payments to them.  How's that worked out?

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No, just observation-based conclusions that differ from your obsessive hatred.
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Compelling stuff @PeteS in CA  ....

But, have you an answer for the question I asked?



I have a question as well. Is Israel the only country that has sent "aid" to Hamas?

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But, have you an answer for the question I asked?

1. It is irrelevant.

2. I do not care.
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Compelling stuff @PeteS in CA  ....

But, have you an answer for the question I asked?

No one answers the Resident Jew Hater's bullshit questions.  But you go Hamas Girl
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I have a question as well. Is Israel the only country that has sent "aid" to Hamas?

Of course not.

But, Israel is the only country to do so who claims to consider Hamas an "existential" threat.  More than one billion dollars transferred from Qatar to Hamas approved by Netanyahu ---with most of the pallets carried by Mossad.  Not one dollar audited. The last approved transfer was in Sep 2023.

All I'm asking is:  Am I the only one curious why Netanyahu funded the Hamas Metro?

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No one answers the Resident Jew Hater's bullshit questions.  But you go Hamas Girl

Me?  A Jew hater?   :silly:

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1. It is irrelevant.

2. I do not care.

Okay.  I'll ask no more of you.  :shrug:

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All I'm asking is:  Am I the only one curious why Netanyahu funded the Hamas Metro?

He didn't.  The US and a bunch of other countries funded it.  But then you knew that already since it has been posted here several times.  Yet here you are again pushing a false narrative for the purpose of deceiving other posters here.  It has been your MO for years now.

Again, not one dime of Israeli money funded those tunnels.  Stop posting lies on this board.
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