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I am sticking to one talking point! i.e. The COVID attack was primarily to get Donald Trump out of the Whitehouse.

And Trump helped him do it every step of the way.  He was a naive fool the entire time.  He essentially funded the 2020 Democrat victory with the highest deficit spending in US history instead of sticking to his guns and backing Conservative legislators.
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However, outside  the MAGA bubble, he was an eager and willing participant. Even tried  to make sure his name was on those stimulus checks

Thanks for the reminder.  I had forgotten about that.
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There were many of us who were screaming “inflation” when these checks were being handed out. And now here we are

Yep.
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Severely constrained by the U. S. Senate, The CIA, The Department of Defense, And More than any other, The Department of State.

Except for the Senate, the President has the authority to fire anyone and everyone in each of those departments.  For the Senate, the President has the authority to let any and every dollar they appropriate sit in the Treasury and remain unspent.

But then according to you, Trump couldn't be a real leader because he might get kicked out of office.  Better to get punked by a bunch of treasonous Democrats than to stand up to them and cause a fuss.
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So the Chinese wrecked their own economy, had massive increase, and killed a ton of their own people on the off chance that it would also mean Trump would lose the election?  Which according to you guys, he didn't?

Damn.....

Why didn't they just release it somewhere else where it wouldn't have killed so many of their own people, and couldn't be blamed on them?

China has no problem with killing its own people.  To them, it was a win-win.
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Because it allowed them to rig the election on a scale never before possible.

You mean Trump allowed them to rig an election on a scale never before possible.  $3 trillion in free money pouring into Democrat campaign chests.  There wasn't a single Democrat Senate candidate in 2020 or 2022 that had anything below $100 million at their disposal.
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Deep in the heart of hardcore Trumpers lies a Jacobin just waiting for a chance to explode.


Exactly...
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So the Chinese wrecked their own economy, had massive increase, and killed a ton of their own people on the off chance that it would also mean Trump would lose the election?  Which according to you guys, he didn't?

Damn.....

Why didn't they just release it somewhere else where it wouldn't have killed so many of their own people, and couldn't be blamed on them?


That is what they wanted to do.
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Thanks for the reminder.  I had forgotten about that.

Lol

The thanks should go to @libertybele

She reminded me of that several months ago because I’ve forgotten about that myself
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As for the excuse that Trump has to comply with the COVID mania to try to win the election, that doesn't explain why he pushed so hard in DECEMBER 2020 for $2000.00 stimulus checks to be sent out to everyone.

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As for the excuse that Trump has to comply with the COVID mania to try to win the election, that doesn't explain why he pushed so hard in DECEMBER 2020 for $2000.00 stimulus checks to be sent out to everyone.

To prevent this:

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Following the 2020 United States Election, both U.S. Senate seats in the state of Georgia went to runoffs concurrently held on January 5, 2021. As Democratic challengers defeated both Republican incumbents, Democrats would take control of the Senate, giving a trifecta to the newly elected president Joe Biden.

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As for the excuse that Trump has to comply with the COVID mania to try to win the election, that doesn't explain why he pushed so hard in DECEMBER 2020 for $2000.00 stimulus checks to be sent out to everyone.

To prevent this:

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Following the 2020 United States Election, both U.S. Senate seats in the state of Georgia went to runoffs concurrently held on January 5, 2021. As Democratic challengers defeated both Republican incumbents, Democrats would take control of the Senate, giving a trifecta to the newly elected president Joe Biden.

What does an election result in 2021 have to do with Trump handing out $2,000 stimulus checks in 2020?
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To prevent this:


What does an election result in 2021 have to do with Trump handing out $2,000 stimulus checks in 2020?

I think her argument is that Trump had to keep pandering/spending money to buy votes for those two Senate seats in Georgia.  But if that is true, then that's an even more worse sign for a second term because there obviously will be a 2026 midterm, and then the 2028 election.  So Trump will never stop spending money trying to buy votes because there's always another election coming up.

Damn, just think of how much better off the whole country would be if, rather than trying to appease the left with all his stupid Covid crap in the vain hope of being re-elected, Trump would have followed the lead of conservative GOP governors and pushed back against the Covid insanity.  He lost the 2020 election anyway, so you might as well just do the right thing.

But...he just wants to be adored by the masses, and handing out checks with his signature on them is certainly...one way of going about it.
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Yes should Trump be re-elected it is critical to have a worthy, steadfast, conservative AG.  Cruz would be a perfect selection.  Whether or not Trump would swallow his pride and appoint Cruz or Cruz accept remains to be seen.

As for your other idea of whisking people off to Gitmo and trying them for treason -- if it's legal, by all means....

Not unless Cruz wants to end his career. Latching onto the tar baby would be the end of him.

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I think her argument is that Trump had to keep pandering/spending money to buy votes for those two Senate seats in Georgia.  But if that is true, then that's an even more worse sign for a second term because there obviously will be a 2026 midterm, and then the 2028 election.  So Trump will never stop spending money trying to buy votes because there's always another election coming up.

Damn, just think of how much better off the whole country would be if, rather than trying to appease the left with all his stupid Covid crap in the vain hope of being re-elected, Trump would have followed the lead of conservative GOP governors and pushed back against the Covid insanity.  He lost the 2020 election anyway, so you might as well just do the right thing.

But...he just wants to be adored by the masses, and handing out checks with his signature on them is certainly...one way of going about it.

Saying that a President had to push us towards inflation in order to buy votes for a couple of Senate seats that were lost anyways wouldn’t be an argument I would make in support of a presidential candidate, assuming that is the argument being presented here

But  he did the same thing with farmers who were damaged by his tariffs.  Even  said that he hopes those checks “will be the thing they most remember” come election time

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit that, if he got reelected, he would try to cancel student loans in order to buy votes from young people

 And we’ll see his groupies switch positions and support student loan cancellation
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Yes should Trump be re-elected it is critical to have a worthy, steadfast, conservative AG.  Cruz would be a perfect selection.  Whether or not Trump would swallow his pride and appoint Cruz or Cruz accept remains to be seen.

As for your other idea of whisking people off to Gitmo and trying them for treason -- if it's legal, by all means....

It won't be Ted Cruz. Our current Texas AG Ken Paxton is much more likely IMHO.
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He is right; the Republican party has proven to be worthless; all words and no action.

yes, but he's projecting.  :laugh:

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I think her argument is that Trump had to keep pandering/spending money to buy votes for those two Senate seats in Georgia.

Here's how it really went down:



In Georgia, Democrats close with populist pitch vowing $2,000 stimulus checks

Sahil Kapur  |  Jan. 5, 2021  |  7:45 AM EST


.  .  . [Ossoff's and Warnock's] calibrated closing arguments centered on a pocketbook pitch to approve $2,000 stimulus payments to Americans, a popular issue backed by Democrats and President Donald Trump but opposed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. In the days between Christmas and New Year's Day, McConnell torpedoed the checks in the Senate, though they had been approved with a bipartisan vote in the House.

“Their election will put an end to the block in Washington on the $2,000 stimulus check,” Biden said. “If you send Sen. Perdue and Loeffler back to Washington, those checks will never get there. It’s just that simple. The power is literally in your hands.”

Ossoff and Warnock are both running aggressively on a promise for $2,000 checks.  .  .

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/georgia-democrats-close-populist-pitch-vowing-2-000-stimulus-checks-n1252805



In essence, the promise of stimulus checks by Trump actually helped the Democrats win both of those runoff elections.  They even had billboards in Atlanta promoting this for the two months leading up to the runoff.  @Right_in_Virginia of course knows this since the evidence has been posted here numerous times.  But here she is again promoting a false narrative while defending Trump's left-wing actions.

If Trump had wanted to do something to stop it, he could have sued Georgia for violating the election laws enacted by its own legislature.  Instead, he was off holding rallies as if that's all it took to have the election reversed after the fact.
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EVERYTIME you take a Democrat line it will help Democrats! No exceptions!

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Not unless Cruz wants to end his career. Latching onto the tar baby would be the end of him.

Concur, the reality is latching to Trump can be career ending and opposing Trump can be too. Trump is a poison pill.
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Concur, the reality is latching to Trump can be career ending and opposing Trump can be too. Trump is a poison pill.

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Concur, the reality is latching to Trump can be career ending and opposing Trump can be too. Trump is a poison pill.

That's right... As proven over and again. I wouldn't touch that administration (or the election thereof) with a 10' pole. Hunker down and wait it out. This too shall pass.

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This too shall pass.

That's a catchy phrase.  They should put it on a bumper sticker.
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