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Confirmed: Biden Lied About Israeli ‘Proposal’; Right-wing Ministers Threaten to Quit

Joel B. Pollak 1 Jun 2024

Reactions from parties in Israel’s governing coalition confirmed Saturday that U.S. President Joe Biden lied to the world when he claimed a proposal for a ceasefire and hostage deal had come from the Israeli government.

As Breitbart News reported, Biden presented a three-part proposal on Friday and claimed, four times, that it was Israel’s proposal.


https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1796630880695226647

Biden waited until the onset of the Jewish Sabbath to make his remarks, making it more difficult for the Israeli government to respond. Notably, the proposal did not call for the destruction or disarmament of Hamas, and Biden told Israelis in his speech that they could not expect “total victory.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued two separate statements indicating that Biden’s proposal was not, in fact, Israel’s proposal. Former President Barack Obama let slip that the proposal was actually Biden’s, and not Israel’s proposal.

Hamas, however, reacted favorably, since the deal would allow the terror group to survive.

As the Sabbath ended, two of the right-wing parties in Netanyahu’s coalition blasted the deal and said they would not be part of any government that allowed Hamas to survive the war, nor agree to a deal that would do the same.

It was a confirmation that the so-called Israeli “proposal” had not, in fact, been proposed by the Israeli government at all.

Biden’s intent appears to have been to box Israel into a deal that Hamas would have approved, making it harder for Israel to reject it.

Rather than claiming credit for the proposal, he presented it as if it had come from Israel, which would serve to undermine trust between Netanyahu and the right-wing parties in his coalition, bringing down the Israeli government.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/06/01/confirmed-biden-lied-about-israeli-proposal-right-wing-ministers-threaten-to-quit/
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Funny ... I knew it was a lie when I first read it. Not a humble-brag, but yes, I did know this was bullshit immediately.

The Libs thought they could present a very one-sided pro-Hamas 'peace proposal' over the weekend, in which Hamas and all the terrorist Arabs would LOVE it, and then Israel would have to agree with it.

I think 'American Liberals/American Democrats' simply do not understand the concept of victory. Nobody is supposed to 'win' any war. Winning is not the point. When Israel says they will have 'total victory', this is confusing to America. America only does 'forever wars' which last for decades and end when America gets bored and suddenly pulls out in a day on a whim (without notifying any of their allies or dependents).

The very idea of Israel 'winning' this war has Americans all in a tizzy. "That is not how we do it!"
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Confirmed: Biden Lied About Israeli ‘Proposal’; Right-wing Ministers Threaten to Quit

Joel B. Pollak 1 Jun 2024

Reactions from parties in Israel’s governing coalition confirmed Saturday that U.S. President Joe Biden lied to the world when he claimed a proposal for a ceasefire and hostage deal had come from the Israeli government. :pondering:

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/06/01/confirmed-biden-lied-about-israeli-proposal-right-wing-ministers-threaten-to-quit/

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Times of Israel
Jun 1, 2024

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday there would be no “permanent ceasefire” in Gaza until Hamas’s military and governing capabilities were destroyed.

His comments, in a rare statement published on the Sabbath and only in English, came after United States President Joe Biden announced Friday that Israel had proposed a three-phase deal for a ceasefire in Gaza in exchange for Hamas releasing hostages, told the terror group to accept it and urged the Israeli government to stand behind it.

“Israel’s conditions for ending the war have not changed: The destruction of Hamas military and governing capabilities, the freeing of all hostages and ensuring that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel,” Netanyahu said.

Biden described the proposal as originating with Israel and laid out the details of a three-phase deal, with particular emphasis on the first phase, a six-week truce that could be extended if talks took longer. The deal, Biden revealed, had been submitted to Hamas on Thursday via Qatar, a mediator in negotiations to end the nearly eight-month war, which have faltered since April.

A US official later said the Israeli proposal was a highly detailed four-and-a-half-page document. It was apparently approved by the war cabinet — compromising Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and minister Benny Gantz — but presumably not yet presented to the wider security cabinet, of which far-fight ministers Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich are members, and on whose support Netanyahu depends for his coalition’s majority.

Immediately after the speech,  Netanyahu — whom Biden avoided naming — released an initial statement saying that “The Israeli government is united in the desire to return our hostages as soon as possible and is working to achieve this goal.”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/non-starter-netanyahu-says-no-permanent-gaza-ceasefire-until-hamas-destroyed/

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Is there anything that Joe Biden didn't lie about?
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I'm fairly certain that Biden didn't do jack sh!t today.  He left for his weekly Delaware vacation on Wednesday.

Wed May 29
4:30 pm - The President arrives in Wilmington, Delaware

Thur May 30
9:25 AM - The President and The First Lady depart Wilmington, Delaware en route to Rehoboth Beach, Delaware
10:00 AM - The President and The First Lady arrive in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware

Fri May 31
9:00 AM - The President departs Rehoboth Beach, Delaware en route to Dover, Delaware
9:45 AM - The President arrives in Dover, Delaware
9:55 AM - The President departs Dover, Delaware en route to Joint Base Andrews
10:30 AM - The President arrives to Joint Base Andrews
10:40 AM - The President departs Joint Base Andrews en route to the White House
11:00 AM - The President arrives at the White House
6:45 PM - The President departs the White House en route to Fort Lesley J. McNair
6:55 PM - The President arrives to Fort Lesley J. McNair
7:05 PM - The President departs Fort Lesley J. McNair en route to Rehoboth Beach, Delaware
8:00 PM - The President arrives in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware


This schedule makes no sense.  There is something happening in Delaware that is crucial for him.
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Times of Israel
Jun 1, 2024

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday there would be no “permanent ceasefire” in Gaza until Hamas’s military and governing capabilities were destroyed.

His comments, in a rare statement published on the Sabbath and only in English, came after United States President Joe Biden announced Friday that Israel had proposed a three-phase deal for a ceasefire in Gaza in exchange for Hamas releasing hostages, told the terror group to accept it and urged the Israeli government to stand behind it.

“Israel’s conditions for ending the war have not changed: The destruction of Hamas military and governing capabilities, the freeing of all hostages and ensuring that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel,” Netanyahu said.

Biden described the proposal as originating with Israel and laid out the details of a three-phase deal, with particular emphasis on the first phase, a six-week truce that could be extended if talks took longer

A US official later said the Israeli proposal was a highly detailed four-and-a-half-page document. It was apparently approved by the war cabinet — compromising Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and minister Benny Gantz — but presumably not yet presented to the wider security cabinet, of which far-fight ministers Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich are members, and on whose support Netanyahu depends for his coalition’s majority.

Immediately after the speech,  Netanyahu — whom Biden avoided naming — released an initial statement saying that “The Israeli government is united in the desire to return our hostages as soon as possible and is working to achieve this goal.”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/non-starter-netanyahu-says-no-permanent-gaza-ceasefire-until-hamas-destroyed/



The invite finally arrived so here's what's also new from Netanyahu on this Saturday .......

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Netanyahu accepts invitation to address joint session of Congress
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday accepted an invitation to address a joint session of Congress.

He said that he was “excited for the privilege to present in front of the representatives of the American people and the entire world the truth about our just war against those who wish to kill us.”

The statement from the Prime Minister’s Office boasted that he would be the first world leader to address a joint session of Congress for a fourth time. He is currently tied at three with Britain’s wartime prime minister, Winston Churchill.

No date has been set, but the speech is expected to take place “as soon as the next eight weeks or soon after August recess,” a source familiar with the matter told The Hill.

An official familiar with the matter told The Times of Israel that Netanyahu had been speaking in recent weeks to Republican Congressional leaders about a potential joint session address, viewing it as an opportunity to make Israel’s case on the global stage and is less concerned about some of the political fallout within the US.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-accepts-invitation-to-address-joint-session-of-congress/


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Domestic pressure mounts for Netanyahu

Netanyahu is facing domestic pressure, both from opposition leaders to get a ceasefire agreement on the table, and from ministers within his own party not to back down on Israel’s original war goals. Families of Israelis being held hostage are meanwhile urging him to accept the proposal.

Protesters took to the streets of several cities across Israel on Saturday, demanding Netanyahu’s resignation and for early elections to be held.

They also demanded the release of all hostages held in Gaza and for the Israeli government to accept the latest proposal laid out by Biden.

Families of hostages held in Gaza took part in protests in Tel Aviv, Caesaria, Haifa, Herzeliya, Kfar Saba.

At Hostage Square in Tel Aviv, protesters called the names of the 125 hostages still in Hamas captivity.

“Start streaming this deal, so that it will start moving… Start working, start acting,” a woman in Tel Aviv shouted over a loudspeaker.

In Caesarea, protesters called for Netanyahu to accept the hostage release deal that Biden presented.

“There is no victory until every last hostage is returned,” people chanted.

Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid wrote on X Saturday that Israel’s government “cannot ignore President Biden’s significant speech.”

Lapid said he was offering Netanyahu a “safety net,” saying he would support him in securing a hostage deal if far-right ministers Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich left the government.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/01/europe/netenyahu-ceasefire-hamas-contradiction-biden-intl/index.html

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Israel confirms Gaza hostage-ceasefire deal proposal details laid out by Biden
Axios, Jun 1, 2024

Israel confirmed President Biden's speech on Friday described "in general" the Israeli proposal for a hostage-ceasefire deal in Gaza but emphasized Israel can resume fighting if it thinks Hamas violates the deal at any point.

Why it matters: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his aides are focusing on the aspects of the potential deal that are more favorable to Israel as the prime minister faces opposition to the proposal that could threaten the future of his coalition.

U.S. officials said they are encouraged that Netanyahu hasn't pushed backed on Biden's speech or denied it reflects the Israeli proposal delivered to Hamas several days ago.

State of play: Shortly after the Jewish Sabbath ended, Netanyahu's ultranationalist coalition partners ministers Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich issued statements attacking the Israeli proposal, which they heard about for the first time in Biden's speech.

* They said they told Netanyahu if this proposal goes through and turns into a deal, they will leave the coalition and topple the government.

* Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid responded by issuing a statement committing to give Netanyahu a political "safety net" if needed in order to pass the deal.

The latest: The U.S., Egypt and Qatar issues a joint statement on Saturday calling on both Hamas and Israel to finalize an agreement "embodying the principles outlined by President Biden."

"These principles brought the demands of all parties together in a deal that serves multiple interests and will bring immediate relief both to the long-suffering people of Gaza as well as the long-suffering hostages and their families."

Biden administration officials worked the phones on Friday and Saturday to get statements of support from U.S. allies and Arab countries.

* Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke on the phone with the foreign ministers of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Turkey and Qatar.

* The Emirati foreign minister issued a statement praising Biden's speech and the Saudi foreign minister said his country supports any proposal that will end the war.

* French president Emmanuel Macron, British foreign minister David Cameron and EU foreign minister Joseph Borrell also issued statements of support for Biden's speech.

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Behind the scenes: The White House notified the Israeli prime minister's office about Biden's speech about two hours in advance, U.S. officials said.

* U.S. officials spoke to the Israeli ambassador in Washington Mike Herzog and to one of Netanyahu's advisers and described the speech to them in broad terms.

* The White House also informed Israeli War cabinet member minister Benny Gantz and defense minister Yoav Galant in advance about Biden's speech, a U.S. official told Axios.

* The U.S. official said the White House was disappointed by Gantz's initial reaction. But on Saturday, Gantz issued a statement welcoming Biden's speech and calling on Netanyahu to push forward with a hostage deal.


https://www.axios.com/2024/06/01/israel-gaza-hostage-ceasefire-deal-confirms-biden



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Turns out it's just another Biden lie.

Confirmed: Biden Lied About Israeli ‘Proposal’; Right-wing Ministers Threaten to Quit

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/06/01/confirmed-biden-lied-about-israeli-proposal-right-wing-ministers-threaten-to-quit/

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Reactions from parties in Israel’s governing coalition confirmed Saturday that U.S. President Joe Biden lied to the world when he claimed a proposal for a ceasefire and hostage deal had come from the Israeli government.

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Biden waited until the onset of the Jewish Sabbath to make his remarks, making it more difficult for the Israeli government to respond. Notably, the proposal did not call for the destruction or disarmament of Hamas, and Biden told Israelis in his speech that they could not expect “total victory.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued two separate statements indicating that Biden’s proposal was not, in fact, Israel’s proposal. Former President Barack Obama let slip that the proposal was actually Biden’s, and not Israel’s proposal.

Hamas, however, reacted favorably, since the deal would allow the terror group to survive.

As the Sabbath ended, two of the right-wing parties in Netanyahu’s coalition blasted the deal and said they would not be part of any government that allowed Hamas to survive the war, nor agree to a deal that would do the same.

It was a confirmation that the so-called Israeli “proposal” had not, in fact, been proposed by the Israeli government at all.

Biden’s intent appears to have been to box Israel into a deal that Hamas would have approved, making it harder for Israel to reject it.

And I don't understand families demands that Israel surrender to Hamas just to get the hostages back (or their remains, as the case may be).

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Families of Israelis being held hostage are meanwhile urging him to accept the proposal.
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Netanyahu aide says Israel agreed to Biden's cease-fire plan for Gaza
Ophir Falk, chief foreign policy adviser to Netanyahu, said that it was “a deal we agreed to — it’s not a good deal but we dearly want the hostages released, all of them.”
NBC News, Jun 2, 2024

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A deal is yet to be finalized, and while Biden initially called it an Israeli proposal, Israel’s official position remains unclear. NBC News has reached out to the Israeli prime minister’s office for clarification.

On Saturday, Netanyahu appeared to undermine the plan, releasing a statement that called a permanent cease-fire in Gaza a “nonstarter” until long-standing conditions for ending the war are met, reiterating that “Israel’s conditions for ending the war have not changed: the destruction of Hamas’s military and governing capabilities, the freeing of all hostages and ensuring that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel.”

In an interview Britain’s Sunday Times, Ophir Falk, chief foreign policy adviser to Netanyahu, emphasized that Israel was not rejecting the deal, saying that it was “a deal we agreed to — it’s not a good deal but we dearly want the hostages released, all of them.”

He added that Israel’s conditions “have not changed” — the release of the hostages and the destruction of Hamas.

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Far-right factions within Netanyahu’s Cabinet reacted strongly to the proposal laid out by Biden, exposing the competing domestic pressures Netanyahu faces.

Bezalel Smotrich, finance minister and chairman of the far-right Religious Zionist Party, said on X that he would “not be part of a government that agrees to the proposed outline and ends the war without destroying Hamas.”

Itamar Ben Gvir, national security minister and leader of the far-right Jewish Power Party, called the proposal “a victory for terrorism” that would mean “absolute defeat,” and threatened on X “to dissolve the government” should Netanyahu agree to the proposal.

Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid said the threats from Ben Gvir and Smotrich represented a “neglect of national security, of the hostages and of the residents of the north and the south.” Lapid had earlier pledged support to Netyanahu should he accept the deal in defiance of his far-right coalition partners.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/netanyahu-aide-israel-agreed-biden-cease-fire-plan-gaza-rcna155075

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