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Will Trump win NY?

Pretty Sure, Look at that Bronx Ralley
4 (8.7%)
It's a gamble I'd be willing to take, If I were in his Shoes
15 (32.6%)
Waste of $$$$, Time and Effort, he'll never win NY
21 (45.7%)
GOP sucks  (stoner option)
6 (13%)

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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2024, 06:50:36 pm »
Quote from: berdie on May 27, 2024, 05:41:42 pm
Oh...and I think Hochul let her mouth overload her butt calling people clowns.

I've heard her speak and she doesn't strike me as too bright

But, the people elected her and re elected her despite the high taxes, crime, and people and businesses fleeing the state
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2024, 06:56:10 pm »
Hochul could easily play the role of the evil queen in Snow White.
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2024, 08:33:38 pm »
Quote from: bigheadfred on May 27, 2024, 06:56:10 pm
Hochul could easily play the role of the evil queen in Snow White.
  Mirror mirror on the wall. Who is the Hochul on the wall?
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2024, 08:38:47 pm »
He wont win NY, of course.

But I voted I would take the gamble if I were in his shoes
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #79 on: May 27, 2024, 08:42:20 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 27, 2024, 06:40:53 pm
Bill Clinton got 43% in 1992.  Is there a point?

43% in a three-way race.  In a two-way race, 46% would have lost.

The point is that Trump has a very high disapproval rating.  Meaning that more people will show up at the polls to vote against him.

Here are the elections since 1980 between GOP and Dem candidates:

1980 - Reagan got 55.3%  GOP ran him again.
1984 - Reagan got 59.2%

1988 - GHWBush got 53.4%.  GOP ran him again.
1992 - GHWBush got 46.5%.  GOP did not run him again.

1996 - Dole got 45.3%.  GOP did not run him again.

2000 - GWBush got 49.7%.  GOP ran him again.
2004 - GWBush got 51.2%.

2008 - McCain got 46.3%.  GOP did not run him again.
2012 - Romney got 48.8%.  GOP did not run him again.
2016 - Trump got 48.9%.  GOP ran him again.
2020 - Trump got 47.7%*.  GOP ran him again.


Trump is the only candidate in this list who was given the nomination after losing an election.  He is also the only candidate in this list who became President without ever winning 50% of the vote.  Again, Trump brings out people who vote against him - people who normally stay home, but showed up to vote because they hate Trump that much.  And when they show up to vote against Trump, they also vote against down-ticket Republicans.
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2024, 08:43:18 pm »
    As you and a couple of other Briefers have brought up; It could help down-ticket, so I understand your logic @LMAO

   He'll NEVER take Manhattan (without a Reality TV Producer) so he won't take NYC and without that he doesn't WIN NY.
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2024, 09:20:11 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on May 27, 2024, 06:45:10 pm
There also was also a three way race in 1992 were the third party challenger got 18% of the vote

Just my way of pointing out that the popular vote means Shinola.
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2024, 09:30:22 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 27, 2024, 09:20:11 pm
Just my way of pointing out that the popular vote means Shinola.

No...it means SH*T.  I know the difference between that and Shinola!  :beer:
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« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2024, 09:33:32 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 27, 2024, 09:20:11 pm
Just my way of pointing out that the popular vote means Shinola.

Winning the popular vote in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania means everything.  And it will be difficult to do when running a candidate with such high disapproval numbers.
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2024, 09:37:13 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 27, 2024, 09:33:32 pm
Winning the popular vote in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania means everything.  And it will be difficult to do when running a candidate with such high disapproval numbers.

Snap the hell out of it!  Biden's disapproval numbers are worse!  Jesus H. Christ would lose as a Democrat come November.

Voters go to Church on Sunday.  But they buy gas, groceries and pay their bills on the other days of the week!
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« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2024, 09:38:44 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 27, 2024, 09:37:13 pm
Snap the hell out of it!  Biden's disapproval numbers are worse!  Jesus H. Christ would lose as a Democrat come November.



I wouldn't be that confident if I was you
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« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2024, 09:41:30 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 27, 2024, 06:37:32 pm

We are printing up more than 3% of GDP each year to achieve that less than 3% of growth.  It's a lose-lose situation.  But Trump zealots don't care.

They either don't care and/or understand basic economics. They don't grasp that you can't print trillions of dollars and not get an inflationary effect.

They also believe that China pays for the tariffs because Trump told them so despite evidence to the contrary
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2024, 09:42:19 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 27, 2024, 09:37:13 pm
Snap the hell out of it!  Biden's disapproval numbers are worse!  Jesus H. Christ would lose as a Democrat come November.

Please go to Church on Sunday.  But they buy gas and groceries on the other days of the week!

Donald Trump won't win NY.  Period.  If the GOP wants to win NY, then they need to find a latter-day Ronald Reagan.  Trump is not that person.
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« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2024, 09:42:56 pm »
Quote from: corbe on May 27, 2024, 08:43:18 pm
    As you and a couple of other Briefers have brought up; It could help down-ticket, so I understand your logic @LMAO

   He'll NEVER take Manhattan (without a Reality TV Producer) so he won't take NYC and without that he doesn't WIN NY.

I would vote it would be a waste of time to campaign in NY if he wasn't already there, anyways
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #89 on: May 27, 2024, 09:50:08 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on May 27, 2024, 09:38:44 pm
I wouldn't be that confident if I was you

I'm as confident as I was in 2016, while you guys were swooning over Ted Cruz and in 2020 when you jilted him for Ron DeSantis.
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« Reply #90 on: May 27, 2024, 09:51:13 pm »
Trump won't win NY.  It's fascinating watching the cult trying to convince itself otherwise.
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« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2024, 09:53:23 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 27, 2024, 09:37:13 pm
Snap the hell out of it!  Biden's disapproval numbers are worse!  Jesus H. Christ would lose as a Democrat come November.

Please go to Church on Sunday.  But they buy gas and groceries on the other days of the week!


    Funny you should bring that up @DCPatriot

    I thought all these people could beat hellary in 2016 EXCEPT Trump and yet she wrote a 'hot check' to dominion and they bounced it giving US Trump.   Disproving my Theory.



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« Reply #92 on: May 27, 2024, 10:55:45 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 27, 2024, 09:33:32 pm
Winning the popular vote in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania means everything.  And it will be difficult to do when running a candidate with such high disapproval numbers.

Yes, state totals are important, but the popular vote of the entire nation means bupkis.
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« Reply #93 on: May 27, 2024, 11:39:47 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 27, 2024, 10:55:45 pm
Yes, state totals are important, but the popular vote of the entire nation means bupkis.

Well then good luck winning the Senate and making gains in the House with a candidate on the ballot who can't poll 50%.  With any other candidate, this would be a landslide year for the GOP.
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #94 on: May 27, 2024, 11:56:46 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 27, 2024, 11:39:47 pm
Well then good luck winning the Senate and making gains in the House with a candidate on the ballot who can't poll 50%.  With any other candidate, this would be a landslide year for the GOP.

Sorry, I am just not that pessimistic.   :shrug:
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« Reply #95 on: May 28, 2024, 02:42:13 pm »
If you believe the 2020 election was fixed, as I do, nothing will stop the same happening in 2024.  The Democrats have become the American Putin party, where the effort is made to lock in the election, and no one rises to contest it that matters.

If you have been to a Trump rally, you know that 30,000 is a SMALL TURNOUT.  I attended one in Macon, GA, where there were over 70,000 folks there.  In New York City, a great turnout would have been a couple hundred thousands. 

Now comparing his turnout to a Biden turnout, where there are less than 100 people when you subtract the staff etc, sure it is a great turnout.  But when looking at numbers Trump draws, for being held in one of our largest cities, this was not an impressive turnout.

If 90% of America voted for Trump, after they retired for the evening, by morning the ones and zeroes will be altered such that the tallies flip to a few thousand with Biden or whatever Democommie is the candidate.

Trump will not win!  Our republic is gone.  We now have a government that mirrors Russia.  The appearance of free elections, and nothing could be further from the truth.
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« Reply #96 on: May 28, 2024, 03:30:53 pm »
Turn out to events is not a useful metric.
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« Reply #97 on: May 28, 2024, 04:02:45 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on May 28, 2024, 03:30:53 pm
Turn out to events is not a useful metric.

You remind me of this Princeton alumni...an attorney who was the same obstinate SOB as you show us here each and every day.

We argued for years over the value baseball statistic of a team's record in 1-run games.   :tongue2:   :beer:
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Re: Will Trump win NY?
« Reply #98 on: May 28, 2024, 04:09:46 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 28, 2024, 04:02:45 pm
You remind me of this Princeton alumni...an attorney who was the same obstinate SOB as you show us here each and every day.

We argued for years over the value baseball statistic of a team's record in 1-run games.   :tongue2:   :beer:

How many showed up to Biden's rallies verses Trump's in 2020?

Who's President now?

That's called reality.
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« Reply #99 on: May 28, 2024, 04:13:01 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 28, 2024, 04:02:45 pm
You remind me of this Princeton alumni...an attorney who was the same obstinate SOB as you show us here each and every day.

We argued for years over the value baseball statistic of a team's record in 1-run games.   :tongue2:   :beer:

I have observed your pulse with great interest and I’ve noticed A Glaring pattern

You never, ever, ever, ever, ever dispute the points being made of why many of us oppose Donald Trump’s candidacy

You make it about the individual making the  point. I guess from your perspective, I don’t blame you


But it’s also the reason why Donald Trump refused to debate his primary opponents. The reason why he’s suddenly eager to debate Joe Biden is because he believes he can take advantage Biden’s confused state. The reason why he dodged his primary opponents is because They would hold him accountablethey
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