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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2024, 03:11:33 pm »
That was the logic used by those who agreed to support him early on.  They figured people would never support a kook like that, so he could be easily managed.  And even when he became Chancellor, he didn't have majority support and the others who agree to support him figured enough people wouldn't take him seriously.  The Enabling Acts that were passed in 1933, and that gave him the power to become dictator, came when he only had the support of a third of the voters.  But the rest again figured that he could be controlled, so they agreed to give him that power.

And that was it.

Most often the horrors that beset Man are caused by inept or malicious government - Natural disasters pale by comparison. And yet, people continue to put trust in government...

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2024, 03:32:56 pm »
I pointed out a legitimate point of the article that was missing which really makes a difference to the outcome of the story.

Are you so thin skinned you cannot hear any other side of the story?

If you want to hear only one side and become ignorant and stupid be my guest.

I agree that the American Thinker, Gateway Pundit, Conservative Treehouse and some others post a a lot of sensationalistic garbage.  The problem is that your critiques seemed to focus exclusively on conservative sources and views, and only backhanded criticisms of the left.  That's why you presenting yourself as a moderate was viewed so skeptically.

My brother is a Republican convinced that "sanity will return" and that things like the current fetish of transgenderism will die out because "it is unsustainable."  But he and you are both prisoners of the moment.

The truth is that the country has been on a steady leftward drift for a looooong time, and the pattern is pretty much always the same.  Radical ideas are proposed that are out of the mainstream, and that do not have majority support.  But because the support of those radicals can be determinative for some of those running for office as Democrats, they placate those radicals by giving them some of what they want.  And it usually is modest enough that Republicans aren't willing to go to the mat over it.  So, the window shifts left.

Then they come back a bit later, and repeat the process.  Except now, they're already starting out further to the left so what they're pushing now is something that wouldn't have been accepted before, but may be accepted later because the status quo has changed.  And this keeps repeating.

The key thing is that this movement is almost exclusively leftward over time.  Part of that is due to structural biases in the legal system (the "ratchet effect"), part of it is due to leftist domination of the universities, and part of it is because of the inherent bias of leftward-leaning people towards government action, and therefore towards government employment.  Most conservatives don't like government, don't want much to do with it, and therefore don't get involved because they prefer the private sector. That gives the left a structural advantage.

That still doesn't excuse sensationalized reporting and headlines from some right-leaning outlets.  I personally find that stuff frustrating as hell because it tends to lead conservatives down rabbit holes that lead nowhere, and can make us look ridiculous when it is proven false.  But because this country is in no practical danger of sliding to the right, I really can't fathom conservatives and moderates who think that kind of sloppy journalism presents anywhere near that threat presented by "journalism" on the left.  So when someone who claims to be a conservative or even a moderate seems to only focus on flaws among conservatives, I question their claimed "moderate" or "conservative". mantle.
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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2024, 03:55:02 pm »
I agree that the American Thinker, Gateway Pundit, Conservative Treehouse and some others post a a lot of sensationalistic garbage.  The problem is that your critiques seemed to focus exclusively on conservative sources and views, and only backhanded criticisms of the left.  That's why you presenting yourself as a moderate was viewed so skeptically.

My brother is a Republican convinced that "sanity will return" and that things like the current fetish of transgenderism will die out because "it is unsustainable."  But he and you are both prisoners of the moment.

The truth is that the country has been on a steady leftward drift for a looooong time, and the pattern is pretty much always the same.  Radical ideas are proposed that are out of the mainstream, and that do not have majority support.  But because the support of those radicals can be determinative for some of those running for office as Democrats, they placate those radicals by giving them some of what they want.  And it usually is modest enough that Republicans aren't willing to go to the mat over it.  So, the window shifts left.

Then they come back a bit later, and repeat the process.  Except now, they're already starting out further to the left so what they're pushing now is something that wouldn't have been accepted before, but may be accepted later because the status quo has changed.  And this keeps repeating.

The key thing is that this movement is almost exclusively leftward over time.  Part of that is due to structural biases in the legal system (the "ratchet effect"), part of it is due to leftist domination of the universities, and part of it is because of the inherent bias of leftward-leaning people towards government action, and therefore towards government employment.  Most conservatives don't like government, don't want much to do with it, and therefore don't get involved because they prefer the private sector. That gives the left a structural advantage.

That still doesn't excuse sensationalized reporting and headlines from some right-leaning outlets.  I personally find that stuff frustrating as hell because it tends to lead conservatives down rabbit holes that lead nowhere, and can make us look ridiculous when it is proven false.  But because this country is in no practical danger of sliding to the right, I really can't fathom conservatives and moderates who think that kind of sloppy journalism presents anywhere near that threat presented by "journalism" on the left.  So when someone who claims to be a conservative or even a moderate seems to only focus on flaws among conservatives, I question their claimed "moderate" or "conservative". mantle.

It's called Fabian Socialism.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/fabian-society-founders-ideology.html


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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2024, 04:28:35 pm »
It's called Fabian Socialism.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/fabian-society-founders-ideology.html


Fabians are usually very open about what they believe, and that's much more common among labor in the UK.  Here, I think it is actually the hardcore Marxists that are providing the engine for socialism.

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2024, 04:33:35 pm »
That was the logic used by those who agreed to support him early on.  They figured people would never support a kook like that, so he could be easily managed.  And even when he became Chancellor, he didn't have majority support and the others who agree to support him figured enough people wouldn't take him seriously.  The Enabling Acts that were passed in 1933, and that gave him the power to become dictator, came when he only had the support of a third of the voters.  But the rest again figured that he could be controlled, so they agreed to give him that power.

And that was it.
If you've read bios of Hitler, it was startling to discover how many times he escaped death from various sources beginning with WWI.
There were people in the German army who wanted to get rid of him before WWII but somehow their plans got botched. He escaped a bomb attempt before the war as well as the one that should have killed him in 1944. Other assassination plots were foiled by bad luck or circumstances. During the beerhall putsch of 1923 on the march in Munich, Nazis to the right and left of Hitler were shot and killed by the police. Goering took a bullet in the thigh that bothered him for the rest of his life.
Just imagine if the English soldier who had an unarmed, dazed Hitler in his sights after a battle in late 1918 hadn't felt pity on him and instead pulled the trigger how different history would have turned out.
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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2024, 05:38:14 pm »
Outside of FR, name one focused Conservative Forum that gets more posts per day than this one.


I could not let this flat out lie go unanswered, You are so devoid of reality I actually feel sorry for you. Nothing you say should be listened  too. If you think TGBR is a large site it does not even rank in the top 50 or 75 of Conservative sites. Heck even Free Republic is  dropping into nowhere land and it is a drop in the bucket to its original self.

And  do not even tell me these sites are  not conservative crap or are a  web forum. You can chat  an disagree or agree or fight with  another posters comment on every one of sites below. including The Baze, Red State etc..

Here are 4 web conservative forums   where viewers interact with each other just like TGBR  and these are not even the largest. The Blaze, Red State, Gateway Pundit on and on are larger.  This site has at most 12-15 regular posters. It's really a shame because the web forum is easy to work with/user friendly and you can find other articles easily.

                                     TGBR                      Breitbart                American Thinker                     Town Hall
Monthly
Visits        163,000 Thousand                  30.9 million                   1.9 million                           7.4 million

Int Rank                25,858                                89                                450
(In it's category)
Facebook  likes          250                            4.4 million                   152,000                               1.4 million                         


This Breitbart story has 5160 comments as of a few hours ago.

CNN’s Honig: Michael Cohen Stealing from Trump 'More Serious of a Crime Than Falsifying Business Records' (breitbart.com)

@catfish1957
Remember my comment where I said some members do  not even know how  misinformed  and stupid they are.... I was thinking about you.

BTW You post per day is ambiguous. Does that mean new threads or members post?
Even if it means new threads what is the point if no one reads them other than a small cadre of members.

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2024, 05:55:25 pm »
DING DING DING I win! I knew you wouldn't keep your word, last post my @$$! You absolutely must be a democrat,

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2024, 05:58:40 pm »

I could not let this flat out lie go unanswered, You are so devoid of reality I actually feel sorry for you. Nothing you say should be listened  too. If you think TGBR is a large site it does not even rank in the top 50 or 75 of Conservative sites. Heck even Free Republic is  dropping into nowhere land and it is a drop in the bucket to its original self.

And  do not even tell me these sites are  not conservative crap or are a  web forum. You can chat  an disagree or agree or fight with  another posters comment on every one of sites below. including The Baze, Red State etc..

Here are 4 web conservative forums   where viewers interact with each other just like TGBR  and these are not even the largest. The Blaze, Red State, Gateway Pundit on and on are larger.  This site has at most 12-15 regular posters. It's really a shame because the web forum is easy to work with/user friendly and you can find other articles easily.

                                     TGBR                      Breitbart                American Thinker                     Town Hall
Monthly
Visits        163,000 Thousand                  30.9 million                   1.9 million                    7.4 million

Int Rank                25,858                                89                                450

Facebook  likes          250                            4.4 million                   152,000                               1.4 million                         


This Breitbart story has 5160 comments as of a few hours ago.

CNN’s Honig: Michael Cohen Stealing from Trump 'More Serious of a Crime Than Falsifying Business Records' (breitbart.com)

@catfish1957
Remember my comment where I said some members do  not even know how  misinformed  and stupid they are.... I was thinking about you.

BTW You post per day is ambiguous. Does that mean new threads or members post?
Even if it means new threads what is the point if no one reads them other than a small cadre of members.

Brightfart, Stinker and ClownStall are not Conservative sites. They do not adhere to Conservatism.
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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2024, 05:59:37 pm »
Brightfart, Stinker and TownStall are not Conservative sites. They do not adhere to Conservatism.

Oh bull shit.

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2024, 06:00:35 pm »
Oh bull shit.

Absolutely true. These are media rags.

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2024, 06:00:45 pm »
DING DING DING I win! I knew you wouldn't keep your word, last post my @$$! You absolutely must be a democrat,

Yeah you got me there.

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2024, 06:15:46 pm »
Oh bull shit.

Wait... You're serious... You consider these to be Conservative sites... No wonder your thinking is whackado.

Brightfart has not been serious since the old man died. Since it became a Tumpian hornblower along with Conservative Nuthouse, they've both lost all credibility. All. They are both sensationalist, populist, propaganda machines.

Stinker never has been all that good, but along with Clown Hall, promulgates Republican drivel in line with NeoCon (read Moderate Wing... Globalist...  read McAin't, MurderTurdle, Boosh) Designs.

They are not Conservative.


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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #62 on: May 21, 2024, 06:19:23 pm »
@banddag

TBR was not created to compete with FR or any conservative forum...it was created to give like-minded

people a place to discuss news and politics....TBR is a close-knit community that does not suffer fools lightly.

BTW you mentioned you were here earlier...what was your name then?
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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2024, 06:21:18 pm »
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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2024, 06:22:54 pm »
It's called Fabian Socialism.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/fabian-society-founders-ideology.html


Actually, it's more Third-Way socialism. But that's kinda arguing over the stinky bits.

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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #65 on: May 21, 2024, 06:31:04 pm »

I could not let this flat out lie go unanswered, You are so devoid of reality I actually feel sorry for you. Nothing you say should be listened  too. If you think TGBR is a large site it does not even rank in the top 50 or 75 of Conservative sites. Heck even Free Republic is  dropping into nowhere land and it is a drop in the bucket to its original self.

And  do not even tell me these sites are  not conservative crap or are a  web forum. You can chat  an disagree or agree or fight with  another posters comment on every one of sites below. including The Baze, Red State etc..

Here are 4 web conservative forums   where viewers interact with each other just like TGBR  and these are not even the largest. The Blaze, Red State, Gateway Pundit on and on are larger.  This site has at most 12-15 regular posters. It's really a shame because the web forum is easy to work with/user friendly and you can find other articles easily.

                                     TGBR                      Breitbart                American Thinker                     Town Hall
Monthly
Visits        163,000 Thousand                  30.9 million                   1.9 million                           7.4 million

Int Rank                25,858                                89                                450
(In it's category)
Facebook  likes          250                            4.4 million                   152,000                               1.4 million                         


This Breitbart story has 5160 comments as of a few hours ago.

CNN’s Honig: Michael Cohen Stealing from Trump 'More Serious of a Crime Than Falsifying Business Records' (breitbart.com)

@catfish1957
Remember my comment where I said some members do  not even know how  misinformed  and stupid they are.... I was thinking about you.

BTW You post per day is ambiguous. Does that mean new threads or members post?
Even if it means new threads what is the point if no one reads them other than a small cadre of members.

Those are site specific media sites, with forums......... not "just conservative forums"  .....   You are one stupid son of a bitch.  I thought your stupid ass left already.  Oops , threatening to leave was just just your 51st lie in 12 days.  Really getting tired calling attention to your lies.

One more time.....   Outside FR, provide me "one" example of a ''forum specific" site larger than this one. 

Otherwise, GFY
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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #66 on: May 21, 2024, 06:32:45 pm »
Fabians are usually very open about what they believe, and that's much more common among labor in the UK.  Here, I think it is actually the hardcore Marxists that are providing the engine for socialism.

I agree! Using Fabian methods.
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Re: No driving on the weekends?
« Reply #67 on: May 21, 2024, 07:09:06 pm »
Well that didn't last long...