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« Reply #1150 on: May 21, 2024, 09:56:33 am »
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Soros funded DA’s office pulls up another email from Costello to serial liar Cohen:

Costello explains: “I was encouraging Michael Cohen, as I just explained earlier, to express any of his complaints, and he had several so I could bring them to Giuliani, whatever they were.”

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Soros funded DA’s office pulls up another email from Costello to perjurer of Congress, Michael Cohen.

Email titled: GIULIANI

Paraphrased: It seems clear to me that Trump and Giuliani are trying to discredit you and throw you under the bus. That is the narrative of the left wing media. There is a narative that you are already cooperating. The mission of the SDNY is to drain you, emotionally and financially.
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My opinion: none of this distraction for the jury by the Soros funded DA’s office has anything to do with the underlying alleged crime, which is still not clear.
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« Reply #1151 on: May 21, 2024, 10:02:23 am »
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Soros funded DA’s office now asking Costello about an email he wrote to Jeff Citron.

In it, Costello references that Cohen was an “bleep” and that Cohen is messing with the most powerful guy in the world.

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Soros funded DA’s office now asking about Costello testifying to the House of Representatives last week.

ADA: You were there to intimidate Michael Cohen, correct?

Costello says, “Ridiculous, no.”

ADA: No further questions


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Trump Defense Attorney Emil Bove now questioning Bob Costello. Bove starts with an email and then a waiver signed by Michael Cohen.

It says at no point did I sign a retainer or retain Costello.

Cohen did not sign it and its established that it would have been a false statement has Cohen signed it.
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« Reply #1152 on: May 21, 2024, 10:03:46 am »
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Bove likely just established that COHEN PERJURED HIMSELF, LAST WEEK, AGAIN!

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WOW, Bove establishes that one of the emails that Costello sent to his son that the ADA tried to frame as from Costello’s son to him was actually a quote from Michael Cohen.

Michael Cohen said:

“It would be an honor to have you on the team” - Michael Cohen
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« Reply #1153 on: May 21, 2024, 10:04:40 am »
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Bove pulling up another email from Bob Costello to serial liar Michael Cohen.

Subject: Attorney-Client Communication - Privilege

Bove: Why did you write that?

Costello: Because i was his attorney.

Cohen: Did Cohen continue to give you intructions to communicate info to Rudy Giuliani?

Costello: Yes.
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« Reply #1154 on: May 21, 2024, 10:10:12 am »
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Bove asks to bring up another email.

Soros funded DA’s office objects to Merchan siting beyond the scope, Merchan sustains.

Bove says to the “Judge” that this email was asked about by the prosecution. Merchan still sustains.

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Bove establishes through questioning Costello that @RudyGiuliani
 was the first person to use the word, “backchannel”.

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Bove proving through the email evidence that Costello was in fact serial liar Michael Cohen’s attorney.
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« Reply #1155 on: May 21, 2024, 10:12:29 am »
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Trump attorney Bove continues questioning Bob Costello:

Bove: Did you ever pressure Michael Cohen to do anything?

Costello: No

Bove: Did you ever have control over Michael Cohen?

Costello: Clearly not.

Two questions get objected to including: Does a lawyer ever have control over a client?

Bove: Did you ever have control over Michael Cohen sir?

Costello: No I did not.
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« Reply #1156 on: May 21, 2024, 10:16:37 am »
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Trump attorney Bove has nothing further for Costello. Soros funded District Attorney has two more questions:

1) about retainer, showing a retainer agreement as of April 20, 2018 - Costello injects, “that’s the day Cohen said he was never on the team.” ADA: Did Cohen ever sign that retainer agreement? Costello: No

2) Did Cohen ever repay you? No

No further questions, ADA wraps up. Emil Bove has no further questions.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1157 on: May 21, 2024, 10:21:19 am »
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Defense rests without Trump testimony

Former President Trump will not take the stand in his own defense during his New York criminal trial, after his attorneys rested their case Tuesday, shortly after prosecutors did the same the day before.

The decision to keep Trump off the stand comes after weeks of uncertainty, with Trump sometimes telling reporters he could testify — a move legal experts have warned could be risky in the former president’s first criminal trial — and other times ignoring persistent questions on the matter.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1158 on: May 21, 2024, 10:24:46 am »
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The “Judge” has dismissed the jury telling them that they will come back a week from today, next Tuesday as the Memorial Day holiday weekend is approaching and Merchan does not want to break up summations.

Merchan also points out to the jury that they may have to work next Wednesday.

After the jury departs, the “Judge” tells the ADA and Trump team to come back at 2:15 to discuss jury instructions.
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« Reply #1159 on: May 21, 2024, 10:26:34 am »
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Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States and leading candidate to become the 47th President of the United States has exited the courtroom through the rear door.

On the way out, he made eye contact with yours truly, giving a thumbs up with his pattoned, puckered lips look, signifying full confidence.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1160 on: May 21, 2024, 10:27:11 am »
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The Soros funded District Attorney’s office, sans Alvin Bragg, has exited the courtroom.

LIVE UPDATE TO COME SHORTLY, STAY TUNED…
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« Reply #1161 on: May 21, 2024, 10:28:38 am »
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Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States and leading candidate to become the 47th President of the United States has exited the courtroom through the rear door.

On the way out, he made eye contact with yours truly, giving a thumbs up with his pattoned, puckered lips look, signifying full confidence.
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Appreciate his tweets from the courtroom, but that last sentence is just bizarre. Man-crush stuff.  *****rollingeyes*****
You're everywhere I go, I am not alone
You call me as Your own to know You and be known.
You are holy!
And I fall down on my knees.
I can feel Your presence here with me.
Suddenly I'm lost within Your beauty,
Caught up in the wonder of Your touch.
Here in this moment I surrender to Your love.

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« Reply #1162 on: May 21, 2024, 02:09:47 pm »
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Bove asks to bring up another email.

Soros funded DA’s office objects to Merchan siting beyond the scope, Merchan sustains.

Bove says to the “Judge” that this email was asked about by the prosecution. Merchan still sustains.

Wow.  Could the bias be any more obvious?  This alone is grounds for appeal.
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« Reply #1163 on: May 21, 2024, 02:11:56 pm »


Wow.  Could the bias be any more obvious?  This alone is grounds for appeal.


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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1164 on: May 21, 2024, 02:29:42 pm »
a few seconds ago
Attorneys meet with judge to iron out jury instructions
By Kyle Schnitzer

Prosecutors and Trump's attorneys are now inside Justice Juan Merchan's courtroom to work on jury instructions.

Known as a charge conference, this hearing is to tinker instructions on the law that will be read by the judge to the jury as they begin deliberations, which is slated for next Wednesday.

It's expected the summations for both sides will start Tuesday.

Trump is seated in a different seat for this conference. He's seated one seat to the left where he's sat throughout the trial, sitting next to Todd Blanche and Susan Necheles.
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1167 on: May 21, 2024, 02:42:41 pm »
Merchan's "Jury Instructions"
When the GUILTY party is GUILTY, then you must find him GUILTY even if you think he is not GUILTY.
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« Reply #1168 on: May 21, 2024, 02:43:46 pm »
Merchan's "Jury Instructions"
When the GUILTY party is GUILTY, then you must find him GUILTY even if you think he is not GUILTY.

Seen a lot in my lifetime, but can't remember such a corrupt judge.
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« Reply #1169 on: May 21, 2024, 02:49:59 pm »
Seen a lot in my lifetime, but can't remember such a corrupt judge.
He is not trying to hide it. Merchan sees his blatant "Trump HATE" as righteousness. He has placed himself in the role of God, looking down on Trump and Judging his sinful ways.
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« Reply #1172 on: May 21, 2024, 03:03:56 pm »
Judge Merchan just reminded the jurors that he and his daughter have millions riding on the verdict.

Judge Merchan just reminded the jurors that he and his 'aides' know where they live.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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« Reply #1173 on: May 21, 2024, 03:06:40 pm »

https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1792942935861850122

It's corruptness at an unprecedented level. I'm not an attorney, nor versed in law, but the corruption is plain and obvious.  This is how they are treating and trying an ex-president in order to interfere with an election.

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« Reply #1174 on: May 21, 2024, 03:07:25 pm »
Judge Merchan just reminded the jurors that he and his daughter have millions riding on the verdict.

Judge Merchan just reminded the jurors that he and his 'aides' know where they live.

Wow....

I've worried that we've devolved into a 3rd world banana republic.    We are already there.
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« Reply #1175 on: May 21, 2024, 03:07:54 pm »

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1792993427144970685

The last sentence couldn't be more true .... "if they have to burn down America’s judicial system in order to vanquish a political enemy and to cling to power, they will  do it".

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« Reply #1176 on: May 21, 2024, 03:11:51 pm »
Judge Merchan just called out each juror by their full name, and then read out their address, where they work, and the names of their children.
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« Reply #1178 on: May 21, 2024, 03:14:34 pm »
I would point out that they are already burning down America to gain power. Burning down the judicial system is only one facet of that.

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« Reply #1179 on: May 21, 2024, 03:15:47 pm »
Judge Merchan just called out each juror by their full name, and then read out their address, where they work, and the names of their children.

Considering the left wing media presence, I wonder if doxxing is legal in New York.  Or does this create a bias that invalidates the impartiality of the jury. 

This from a foreign born judge no less.
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« Reply #1180 on: May 21, 2024, 03:24:26 pm »
Considering the left wing media presence, I wonder if doxxing is legal in New York.  Or does this create a bias that invalidates the impartiality of the jury. 

This from a foreign born judge no less.

I could be wrong, but I suspect that bit of "news" is 240B being 240B...

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« Reply #1181 on: May 21, 2024, 03:25:31 pm »
Considering the left wing media presence, I wonder if doxxing is legal in New York.  Or does this create a bias that invalidates the impartiality of the jury. 

This from a foreign born judge no less.

He forgot this in his posts:

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« Reply #1182 on: May 21, 2024, 03:27:29 pm »
He forgot this in his posts:

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lol...got me!!!! :silly:
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« Reply #1183 on: May 21, 2024, 06:31:00 pm »
Trump Witness Merchan Silenced Speaks Out: Brad Smith Explains What He Would Have Told Jury

Brad Smith, the Trump witness who was essentially silenced by Judge Juan Merchan in former President Donald Trump’s business records trial, revealed what he would have told the jury had he been able to testify, noting that he would have tried to “lay out some of the factual work of the law” and how it works in “practice.”

Speaking to Byron York of Washington Examiner, Smith — who was barred by Merchan from testifying about campaign finance laws, which are at the crux of the business records trial — explained that he would not have delved into specifics, but would have tried to break down campaign finance law, as it is extremely complicated.

According to York, Smith planned to “lay out the ways the law has been interpreted in ways that might not be obvious”:

    As an example, Smith cited the phrase “for the purpose of influencing an election,” which has been heard during much analysis of the trial. “You read the law and it says that anything intended for the purpose of influencing an election is a contribution or an expenditure,” Smith explained. “But that’s not in fact the entirety of the law. There is the obscure, and separate from the definitional part, idea of personal use, which is a separate part of the law that says you can’t divert campaign funds to personal use. That has a number of specific prohibitions, like you can’t buy a country club membership, you can’t normally pay yourself a salary or living expenses, you can’t go on vacation — all these kinds of things. And then it includes a broader, general prohibition that says you can’t divert [campaign funds] to any obligation that would exist even if you were not running for office.”

    What is the point of that? “We would have liked to flag that exception for the jury and talk a little bit about what it means,” Smith said. “And also, we would have talked about ‘for the purpose of influencing an election’ is not a subjective test, like ‘What was my intention?’ — it’s an objective test. So hiring campaign staff is for the purpose of influencing an election. Renting space for your campaign office, buying ads, maybe doing polling, printing up bumper stickers, travel to campaign rallies, renting venues for campaign rallies — all of those things exist only because you are running for office. But under the personal use rules, a lot of things candidates do running for office are not considered campaign expenditures, things like paying for a weight loss program or a gym membership, nicer clothes, teeth whitening, or all that sort of thing. It may be true that you do those things in part to help yourself get elected — you might not do them otherwise — but they are not obligations that exist simply because you are running for office. Lots of people do those things.”

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« Reply #1184 on: May 21, 2024, 06:42:51 pm »
I could be wrong, but I suspect that bit of "news" is 240B being 240B...

Likely probable -- but ya gotta love his posts.  happy77

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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1186 on: May 22, 2024, 10:59:41 pm »
I was inside the court when the judge closed the Trump trial, and what I saw shocked me

Alan Dershowitz  |  May 21, 2024


I have observed and participated in trials throughout the world. I have seen justice and injustice in China, Russia, Ukraine, England, France, Italy, Israel, as well as in nearly 40 of our 50 states.

But in my 60 years as a lawyer and law professor, I have never seen a spectacle such as the one I observed sitting in the front row of the courthouse yesterday.

The judge in Donald Trump’s trial was an absolute tyrant, though he appeared to the jury to be a benevolent despot. He seemed automatically to be ruling against the defendant at every turn.

Many experienced lawyers raised their eyebrows when the judge excluded obviously relevant evidence when offered by the defense, while including irrelevant evidence offered by the prosecution.

But when the defense’s only substantive witness, the experienced attorney Robert Costello, raised his eyebrows at one of New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan’s rulings, the court went berserk.  .  .  .

https://nypost.com/2024/05/21/opinion/i-was-inside-the-court-when-the-judge-closed-the-trump-trial-and-what-i-saw-shocked-me/
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1187 on: May 22, 2024, 11:01:58 pm »
Dershowitz:

"For some reason, I was allowed to stay, and I observed one of the most remarkable wrong-headed biases I have ever seen. The judge actually threatened to strike all of Costello’s testimony if he raised his eyebrows again.

That of course would have been unconstitutional because it would have denied the defendant his Sixth Amendment right to confront witnesses and to raise a defense.

It would have punished the defendant for something a witness was accused of doing.

Even if what Costello did was wrong, and it was not, it would be utterly improper and unlawful to strike his testimony — testimony that undercut and contradicted the government’s star witness.

The judge’s threat was absolutely outrageous, unethical, unlawful and petty."
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Re: Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC
« Reply #1188 on: May 23, 2024, 09:52:45 pm »

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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien