Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out

[catfish1957]

Super Tuesday has passed, and the choices are now set.  What sez Briefers and Lurkers? How are you leaaning 8 months out?

[LMAO]

Skip POTUS here

And vote down ballot

Although too stoned to vote sounds like a good option, also

But no thank you as far as the two top train wrecks go

[jmyrlefuller]

Biden has proven in spades why I didn't vote for him this time. Given a Democrat Congress, he's been pushed around too much, and the GOP lacks the leverage to push back right now. He's simply not built for this kind of role.

As for Trump... the thought of holding my nose and voting for him, thereby triggering the 22nd Amendment, is tempting. But what happened in March 2020 is disqualfying in my mind... and he's only grown more unhinged and corrupt (see: daughter-in-law as number 2 in the RNC) since then.

Kennedy, for all his antivax blather, would otherwise be no improvement over Biden. He's from the same Northeast Catholic stock.

I've accepted that there is no home for me, as a person of principle, anywhere in American politics right now—and whether there is such a place for me in society as a whole, unable to start my own family, is questionable at this point as well. The majority of people in this country have proven themselves too wedded to cult of personality, partisan politics and their own irresponsibility to care about what makes our country great. People like me are outnumbered and the others don't listen.

[roamer_1]

I'd have liked a multiple-choice.
No chance of voting anything Democrat.
No chance of voting for the Republican presidential candidate. No circumstance will change that.
Of course I will be voting down-ticket.

But I might could vote for a dark horse 3rd party if it materialized... And I would likely vote CP if I can.

And I just might be too stoned to vote. It could happen. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Haven't made up my mind yet but I choose nose-holding.

[Wingnut]

Look I hate the effin guy.  But I can't imagine another 4 years of dementia Joe hopped up on drugs to let his puppet masters ruin the country.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'd have liked a multiple-choice.
No chance of voting anything Democrat.
No chance of voting for the Republican presidential candidate. No circumstance will change that.
Of course I will be voting down-ticket.

But I might could vote for a dark horse 3rd party if it materialized... And I would likely vote CP if I can.

And I just might be too stoned to vote. It could happen. 

Ranked  Choice Voting?  That'll fixi it....

[AllThatJazzZ]

Interesting poll, but it doesn't matter. We're getting Biden or some other Dem for 4 more years. And because we're getting Biden or another Dem for 4 more years, we will never have another Republican in the White House. Get used to it.

[Hoodat]

Super Tuesday has past, and the choices are now set.  What sez Briefers and Lurkers? How are you leaaning 8 months out?

@catfish1957. You forgot the Kennedy boy.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Look I hate the effin guy.  But I can't imagine another 4 years of dementia Joe hopped up on drugs to let his puppet masters ruin the country.

Same. I hate the dude and i hate his voters... most of them. Hate isn't a pretty emotion, I get it. I'm not proud of it.

[LMAO]

. And because we're getting Biden or another Dem for 4 more years, we will never have another Republican in the White House. Get used to it.

After Nixon/Ford, pundits wondered if a Republican would ever win the WH again. After eight years of Reagan and right after GHWB was elected, there was an article in Newsweek at the time that questioned if a Democrat would ever win the WH again. The Republicans were finished after GWB. In fact, James Carville even wrote a book on how Democrats will rule for 50 years.

The GOP is in a funk right now and after Trump loses in Nov, there’s going to be some soul searching. But the pendulum always swings

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

After Nixon/Ford, pundits wondered if a Republican would ever win the WH again. After eight years of Reagan and right after GHWB was elected, there was an article in Newsweek at the time that questioned if a Democrat would ever win the WH again. The Republicans were finished after GWB. In fact, James Carville even wrote a book on how Democrats will rule for 50 years.

The GOP is in a funk right now and after Trump loses in Nov, there’s going to be some soul searching. But the pendulum always swings

The GOP has been in a funk since GWB. They've lost every single popular vote.

[Wingnut]

The GOP has been in a funk since GWB. They've lost every single popular vote.

Because the rats haven't figured out how to kill the constitution......yet

[roamer_1]

Ranked  Choice Voting?  That'll fixi it....

I dunno... But this year I'd be voting

[X] None of the Above

...If the option were present. So all I can do now is ignore the top of the ticket. 

[LMAO]

The GOP has been in a funk since GWB. They've lost every single popular vote.

GWB did get slightly over 50% of the popular vote in 2004.

[roamer_1]

The GOP has been in a funk since GWB. They've lost every single popular vote.

And will continue to as long as they keep drifting away from their base.
If I wanted a Democrat, I'd vote for one.

[Bigun]

Interesting poll, but it doesn't matter. We're getting Biden or some other Dem for 4 more years. And because we're getting Biden or another Dem for 4 more years, we will never have another Republican in the White House. Get used to it.

Sad as it is, I think that is correct @AllThatJazzZ but I will be voting for Donald Trump never-the-less.

[Bigun]

Because the rats haven't figured out how to kill the constitution......yet

Really??? That will come as news to many, myself among them.

[cato potatoe]

Trump/Biden is the worst choice ever.  The only way to encourage the major parties to select better candidates is to vote for someone else.  With any luck, they will see "their" votes going to waste, and do something to remedy the situation in 2028.

[catfish1957]

@catfish1957. You forgot the Kennedy boy.

Figured him in as 3rd party.  I'll add him as an example

[catfish1957]

Wow...  2 Biden supporters thus far.  Lurkers I'll guess.

[AllThatJazzZ]

I dunno... But this year I'd be voting

[X] None of the Above

...If the option were present. So all I can do now is ignore the top of the ticket. 

Here's why we're getting 4 more years of Biden (or some other Dem). 

[AllThatJazzZ]

Trump/Biden is the worst choice ever.  The only way to encourage the major parties to select better candidates is to vote for someone else.  With any luck, they will see "their" votes going to waste, and do something to remedy the situation in 2028.

Riiiiiiiight. Because how much damage can the Dems do in a 4-year term? 

[roamer_1]

Here's why we're getting 4 more years of Biden (or some other Dem). 

YEP. It's all my fault.

Personally, I find it far more dangerous - FAR MORE - to support big government from the right.

[AllThatJazzZ]

YEP. It's all my fault.

Personally, I find it far more dangerous - FAR MORE - to support big government from the right.

Silly boy! You can't do it alone. 

I personally disagree with your convictions, but that's fine. I'm at the end of my life. I have no kids of my own. Just by virtue of my age, I won't be here to watch America crumble that much longer. I do feel terrible for the subsequent generations, but they have participated in their own undoing by throwing their vote away. I'm choosing not to carry the worry of that anymore. You can't stand in the way of a country that's in the process of destroying itself. Permanently.

[roamer_1]

Silly boy! You can't do it alone. 

I personally disagree with your convictions, but that's fine. I'm at the end of my life. I have no kids of my own. Just by virtue of my age, I won't be here to watch America crumble that much longer. I do feel terrible for the subsequent generations, but they have participated in their own undoing by throwing their vote away. I'm choosing not to carry the worry of that anymore. You can't stand in the way of a country that's in the process of destroying itself. Permanently.

It is because I have grandchildren that I draw hard lines.
I will bring you back to Reagan and the welding together of the Conservative Coalition.
We only win when we stand together.
I honor that to this day.
And I will till I die.

Throwing fiscal conservatives and libertarians under the bus is throwing me under the bus.
And you want me to vote *FOR* that?
Not a single chance in hell.

[Bigun]

Silly boy! You can't do it alone. 

I personally disagree with your convictions, but that's fine. I'm at the end of my life. I have no kids of my own. Just by virtue of my age, I won't be here to watch America crumble that much longer. I do feel terrible for the subsequent generations, but they have participated in their own undoing by throwing their vote away. I'm choosing not to carry the worry of that anymore. You can't stand in the way of a country that's in the process of destroying itself. Permanently.

Other than two living sons (the youngest is 50) and no grands it's the exact same with me but I'll keep trying for as long as I have a heartbeat. @AllThatJazzZ

[Bigun]

2 here support Biden?  Seriously?

We have trolls here. Always have had them.

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

[catfish1957]

2 here support Biden?  Seriously?

I set the poll to allow lurkers to vote.  That could include du lurkers.

[Cyber Liberty]

I set the poll to allow lurkers to vote.  That could include du lurkers.

I hope that frosts their nutz.

[Kamaji]

Look I hate the effin guy.  But I can't imagine another 4 years of dementia Joe hopped up on drugs to let his puppet masters ruin the country.

[Lando Lincoln]

@Kamaji - I recognized that thumb immediately!  So good to see you, sir.

[mystery-ak]

Sad as it is, I think that is correct @AllThatJazzZ but I will be voting for Donald Trump never-the-less.

Me too.....can't let Pops back in to finish the destruction of the US

[Sighlass]

I don't like Trump, can't vote for him... but I'll be damn if I would vote for Biden. Wasn't me is all I am saying.

[Hoodat]

I'm with Sighlass.  Our State has given all of it's electoral votes to a Democrat only one time since Eisenhower's second term.  Even went for Goldwater in '64.  So I don't think our votes will be missed.

Trump still has an opportunity to win my vote.  But I'm not holding my breath.

[LMAO]

I'm with Sighlass.  Our State has given all of it's electoral votes to a Democrat only one time since Eisenhower's second term.  Even went for Goldwater in '64.  So I don't think our votes will be missed.

Trump still has an opportunity to win my vote.  But I'm not holding my breath.

If Trump wanted to win my vote, first he needs to admit his handling of COVID was wrong headed. I agreed with him when he restricted travel from China at the start of it but it went downhill from there. 
 
Then, he needs to come to terms with some kind of entitlement reform. Next, he needs to run a campaign based on the dire need to reduce the size of the federal government and why that’s better for freedom and prosperity. Next, tell me that you’re going to seek a Paul Vockler(sp) type for the Federal Reserve.

Dump the tariff nonsense. It didn’t work the first time he did it and it won’t work better the second time.

Oh, and admit the so called “Freedom Cities” was all a prank
What are the chances of even one of those I listed happening? Zilch

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I'd look into third party but frankly, at least back in 2016 (last time I considered that), that was actually worse than Trump Hillary.

[cato potatoe]

Riiiiiiiight. Because how much damage can the Dems do in a 4-year term? 

I don't know, but I will no longer clean up behind the trumpers.  They have to start caring about secondary effects.

[catfish1957]

I know the poll is only a few days old, but the biggest shocker of all?:

57 votes in, and only 14% of particpants are enthusiastic about their Trump vote.  That's pretty remarkable since this is at a Conservative Forum.  This is just my take, but I think the entire GOP's support for Trump is a whole lot softer than he realizes.  This will hurt this November in GOTV, and 3rd party defections.

[roamer_1]

I know the poll is only a few days old, but the biggest shocker of all?:

57 votes in, and only 14% of particpants are enthusiastic about their Trump vote.  That's pretty remarkable since this is at a Conservative Forum.  This just my take, but I think the entire GOP's support for Trump is a whole lot softer than he realizes.  This wil hurt this November in GOTV, and 3rd party defections.

Not surprising.

Name ONE actual Conservative principle that is served in this campaign that is not defied by the record.
Go ahead... I'll wait.

[Cyber Liberty]

I know the poll is only a few days old, but the biggest shocker of all?:

57 votes in, and only 14% of particpants are enthusiastic about their Trump vote.  That's pretty remarkable since this is at a Conservative Forum.  This is just my take, but I think the entire GOP's support for Trump is a whole lot softer than he realizes.  This will hurt this November in GOTV, and 3rd party defections.

With every thread being post after post declaring Trump the Antichrist, that is not surprising....

[Cyber Liberty]

Outside of Trump's MAGA universe, he's not very well liked

True.  And I am not voting on Chief Pal.

[Lando Lincoln]

With every thread being post after post declaring Trump the Antichrist, that is not surprising....

There is nothing new under the sun that can be said. Yet, we try.

Here is my “reality” (whatever that means): I am concerned about a Trump presidency but I fear a Biden presidency. In all probability, we will have one or the other. I pray this Republic can survive the next 4 years. I will not do anything to aid Biden.

So yes, I will vote Trump for a third time.

[deb]

At this point in time, I’ll be voting down ticket. WAY down ticket as it appears our state has two icky options for governor.
On the bright side, the spend-happy state congressmen from my district are being challenged by some actual conservatives. Just because one lives in a “red” state, that does not mean it’s a conservative state.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Outside of Trump's MAGA universe, he's not very well liked

No, and he's had ample time to win people over. Well, I will say his minority appeal is shocking for a GOPer though. We'll see if they turn out for him.

[Bigun]

There is nothing new under the sun that can be said. Yet, we try.

Here is my “reality” (whatever that means): I am concerned about a Trump presidency but I fear a Biden presidency. In all probability, we will have one or the other. I pray this Republic can survive the next 4 years. I will not do anything to aid Biden.

So yes, I will vote Trump for a third time.

  Me too! In the hope that it will allow us to fight another day.

[Bigun]

At this point in time, I’ll be voting down ticket. WAY down ticket as it appears our state has two icky options for governor.
On the bright side, the spend-happy state congressmen from my district are being challenged by some actual conservatives. Just because one lives in a “red” state, that does not mean it’s a conservative state.

We are cleaning house in Texas this year @deb below is an account of just one County but it's happening all over.

https://twitter.com/Davy1836/status/1767217153520947587

[deb]

We are cleaning house in Texas this year @deb below is an account of just one County but it's happening all over.

https://twitter.com/Davy1836/status/1767217153520947587

That was interesting!

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Politics should be run by average citizens IMO, NOT elites.

[roamer_1]

Politics should be run by average citizens IMO, NOT elites.

The mere idea of 'elites' is un-American.