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Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?

Yes, I just don't see a Reagan type Leader on the Horizon
12 (42.9%)
No, we can recover from this BS
7 (25%)
My GrandMother thought the Flappers took it too far
2 (7.1%)
It's more Complicated than that; another BS corbe poll (stoner option)
7 (25%)

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Voting closed: Monday, Apr 01, 2024 06:54 pm

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Offline roamer_1

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 02:35 pm »

It can but it will not short of God's intervention.


Right. But that is always the case.

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Agreed! But that doesn't mean we should quit trying.

I'm all for trying! But trying means going after the right things, not chasing after lesser evil. That is the primary mistake, and it will bring nothing.

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I'm not getting the Bud light connection here. People understand beer but the vast majority have no idea as to what has been done to them over the course of the last century and a half.

Are you familiar with why Bud Light has fallen from grace? Lost their 30 point lead over any other beer in nearly a single night? A destruction that holds to this very day?

Why did that happen, with no movement against them? Same with Target... Why?
same with Disney - America's storyteller is being resoundingly rejected. They could be gone in a very few years.

WHY? DeSantis? No, DeSantis is but a symptom.

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 02:43 pm »
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Why did that happen, with no movement against them? Same with Target...

WTH are you talking about? My recollection is that there were huge movements in both cases.
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 02:51 pm »
WTH are you talking about? My recollection is that there were huge movements in both cases.

Yep... WAY after the fact. Similar to how entities on the right tried to claim the TEA Party once it began to succeed. TEA belongs to Dr. Ron Paul and his tribe. I was there when it started. And it exploded when the Conservatives and particularly the Christians signed on. But they ain't the movement. The libertarian Right owned that.

Show me the movement that started against Bud Light. I have looked high and low. No political entity started that. It just happened.

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 02:56 pm »
Yep... WAY after the fact. Similar to how entities on the right tried to claim the TEA Party once it began to succeed. TEA belongs to Dr. Ron Paul and his tribe. I was there when it started. And it exploded when the Conservatives and particularly the Christians signed on. But they ain't the movement. The libertarian Right owned that.

Show me the movement that started against Bud Light. I have looked high and low. No political entity started that. It just happened.

I'm sorry @roamer_1 but you are talking in circles here. I've known Ron Paul since before he entered the realm of politics. In fact, his signature is on my youngest's birth certificate.  I was also there with TEA on day one and that movement is far from dead despite what many seem to believe.
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 03:05 pm »
I'm sorry @roamer_1 but you are talking in circles here. I've known Ron Paul since before he entered the realm of politics. In fact, his signature is on my youngest's birth certificate.  I was also there with TEA on day one and that movement is far from dead despite what many seem to believe.

Huh?

I said no ill against Ron Paul. In fact I credited him. Conservatives can claim the TEA Party only as far as they will claim the libertarian Right - Because that is where the TEA Party movement started.

And I know it ain't dead, btw...

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 03:11 pm »
Huh?

I said no ill against Ron Paul. In fact I credited him. Conservatives can claim the TEA Party only as far as they will claim the libertarian Right - Because that is where the TEA Party movement started.

And I know it ain't dead, btw...

I was referring to this:

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Yep... WAY after the fact.

which is entirely incorrect in my view.
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 03:18 pm »
I was referring to this:

which is entirely incorrect in my view.

In which respect?

In regard to Bud Light? Show me a movement, a leadership, anywhere near April Fools day last year. Because within 30 days of that infamous Dylan Mulvaney post, Bud Light was already on the skids. By 60 days out, AB products across the board were suffering. THEN you can find official 'conservative' entities signing on and claiming credit... And SURE they brought game, but they don't deserve credit.

Or in something I said wrt TEA?

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 04:22 pm »
In which respect?

In regard to Bud Light? Show me a movement, a leadership, anywhere near April Fools day last year. Because within 30 days of that infamous Dylan Mulvaney post, Bud Light was already on the skids. By 60 days out, AB products across the board were suffering. THEN you can find official 'conservative' entities signing on and claiming credit... And SURE they brought game, but they don't deserve credit.

Or in something I said wrt TEA?

Sometimes there is more than one "leader" often MANY more. As was the case with both Bud lite and Target.
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 04:39 pm »
Sometimes there is more than one "leader" often MANY more. As was the case with both Bud lite and Target.

I looked. HARD. There was no leadership until nearly 60 days in.
You're welcome to prove that wrong, but I sure couldn't find it.




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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 04:51 pm »
I looked. HARD. There was no leadership until nearly 60 days in.
You're welcome to prove that wrong, but I sure couldn't find it.

It was far more than 60 days in before any "leader" of the TEA revolution emerged. I was there! Still am!
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 05:04 pm »
It was far more than 60 days in before any "leader" of the TEA revolution emerged. I was there! Still am!

That's why the comparison... Though we differ. I was there too. Me and Rabscuttle385 from FR on some pretty obscure Paul forums... It was Paul's not so little army of devotees that drove up the start of that movement. It was only much later that more official Right-leaning organizations got in... And tried to claim it.


I say that more as an observer. As a Western man, I am more libertarian minded, so I was friendly with those who everyone else called 'Paultards'... I never was one of em.

I could take Paul's domestic policy, pretty much across the board.
We kinda parted ways in foreign policy.

So I was there. A neighbor invited to the fire... But not one of em.

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2024 05:07 pm »
Male baby boomers.  We were dupted by the Free love, bra burning years. We got sucked in to the idea that laying track and pulling trains was going to be nirvana.  Sadly it was our demise. We should have seen that men before us gave women the vote. Let them drive cars.  All mistakes. We never learn. It gave us liberals.  Sad...  We made our bed and now we can't even get laid in it.
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday, Mar 27, 2024 07:59 am »
Should I be troubled that I voted for the stoner option? I'm on hold with my therapist as I type.  :shrug:


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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday, Mar 27, 2024 08:34 am »
White culture is done.

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday, Mar 27, 2024 09:37 am »
Nobody has ever accused me of having culture.

To all sides - leave me alone, stop taking my stuff, and cease limiting my choices.

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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday, Mar 27, 2024 10:28 am »


Man's Natural State is to be Free.

Man’s natural state is also to seek power and dominion over his fellow man
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday, Mar 27, 2024 10:48 am »
White culture is done.

@rustynail

No real surprise,given that whites are a minority of the world population,and most seem to have very little interest in controlling the world.

I guess all the "good" white blood was spilled over the centuries,and replaced with the blood of those they conquered until it reached  the point most seem to be looking for a master to tell them what to do.

Not that the Chinese mind.
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Re: Is America too far gone Culturally to Recover?
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday, Apr 24, 2024 08:25 pm »
The republic is gone.  Fixed elections were the final nail.

If the country wants to reverse it, they need to deport George Soros and his entire family.  Seize his wealth and send him to Hungary to receive justice.  If Trump wanted vengeance, that is the best thing he could do.  It is Soros and his family and minions paying millions for corrupt Democommies to become DAs and extract Trump's heart in one theater of judicial corruption after another.  But I doubt Trump will do anything but bask in the glory of his victory than to extract his pound of flesh.

Best thing to happen to the USA would be the end of Soros' reign of anarchy. 

But with another fixed election coming, I just do not see any of that happening.  More Wrecking Ball Joe, on steroids!!!!!

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