Trump’s VP Pick

[Hoodat]

I have long thought that Trump would pick Ben Carson as his Veep, but lately I am thinking Tulsi. Trump simply cannot resist a hot-looking, media-savvy babe, regardless of her political viewpoint.

My thoughts as well.

[roamer_1]

My thoughts as well.

And I will laugh and point my finger. And laugh sommore.

[Hoodat]

I've grown tired of this circular argument. 

The only circular argument here is the one you continue to embrace.

[Hoodat]

And I will laugh and point my finger. And laugh sommore.

But . . . but . . . but it's the lesser of two evils.

[libertybele]

I have long thought that Trump would pick Ben Carson as his Veep, but lately I am thinking Tulsi. Trump simply cannot resist a hot-looking, media-savvy babe, regardless of her political viewpoint.

In listening to and reading his announcement of choices for his VP pick he specifically mentioned that his VP would be carefully picked and they would be capable of running the country. The only one that I think is capable on day one of running the country is Noem.  Scott, Gabbard, Vivek all lack in experience.

IMHO if he selects any of the later named, he will lose the general without any doubts. His VP is either going to make him or break him.

[roamer_1]

But . . . but . . . but it's the lesser of two evils.

We truly do get the government we deserve.   

[scottfreitas]

I have long thought that Trump would pick Ben Carson as his Veep, but lately I am thinking Tulsi. Trump simply cannot resist a hot-looking, media-savvy babe, regardless of her political viewpoint.

If you're right, then why wouldn't Trump choose Kari Lake?

Kari used to WORK in the media. Meanwhile, today, she is the MAGAest of all the MAGA types who claim to be MAGA!

Me, I'd prefer Ben Carson.

But again, based off your description, I fail to see how Lake wouldn't be considered waaay above ex-recently-Demoncrat Tulsi.

MAGA ain't gonna trust Tulsi.

[roamer_1]

In listening to and reading his announcement of choices for his VP pick he specifically mentioned that his VP would be carefully picked and they would be capable of running the country. The only one that I think is capable on day one of running the country is Noem.  Scott, Gabbard, Vivek all lack in experience.

IMHO if he selects any of the later named, he will lose the general without any doubts. His VP is either going to make him or break him.

Noem should watch her topknot and keep her powder dry.

If she climbs aboard the Tump train, she's dead to me.

[libertybele]

I've grown tired of this circular argument. 

The only thing that I would like to add is this; everyone has to vote their conscience. Not being true to your feelings and beliefs is just wrong. We all have reasons obviously to either vote for Trump or not.

Trump should by all indications be the nominee, but we're months away and he now has 3 states that are forbidding him to be on the ballot.  So, him being the nominee has not be finalized and I think that the left may have a surprise or two up their sleeves yet.  Also, who knows what will happen at the Republican Convention and what rule changes they may make.

[Hoodat]

We truly do get the government we deserve.   

That would be something.  Trump/Gabbard.  Not one, but two Democrats on the Republican ticket.

[Bigun]

The only circular argument here is the one you continue to embrace.

In 2016 I refused to vote for Trump but he was elected despite my protestations and did the best he could given all that was thrown at him for four years. So much so that I believed, along with many millions of others that he deserved re-election and voted that way but the election was stolen (81 million votes for Biden? Give me a break) I refuse to let that stand and will vote FOR Donald John Trump in 2024 despite everything the swamp continues to throw at him. End of story.

[roamer_1]

That would be something.  Trump/Gabbard.  Not one, but two Democrats on the Republican ticket.

Ain't it though?
Will wonders never cease...
And 'conservatives' too I suppose. That Conservative mantle is gonna need a hella big refit.

[roamer_1]

In 2016 I refused to vote for Trump but he was elected despite my protestations and did the best he could given all that was thrown at him for four years. So much so that I believed, along with many millions of others that he deserved re-election and voted that way but the election was stolen (81 million votes for Biden? Give me a break) I refuse to let that stand and will vote FOR Donald John Trump in 2024 despite everything the swamp continues to throw at him. End of story.

Yeah. His martyr shtick is strong.

[Hoodat]

We are now spending $400 billion per year just to pay the interest on the debt that Trump accumulated after just four years in office.

[roamer_1]

We are now spending $400 billion per year just to pay the interest on the debt that Trump accumulated after just four years in office.

HEY! Let's do THAT sommore! Woo! 

 

[libertybele]

Noem should watch her topknot and keep her powder dry.

If she climbs aboard the Tump train, she's dead to me.

Well, all I can say is go back and watch Noem's speech before Trump's rally at Rushmore when BLM and others were blocking people from attending.  Her speech was pretty darn impressive and obviously she has great deep reasons for believing in Trump. She's been one heck of a governor.

One of my thoughts through all of this -- Trump is fighting to get the nomination and the GOP seated in the WH -- If that should somehow happen, I believe he will step down after his first term, perhaps even sooner.  Just an idea that has come to mind.

No, I am not in anyway trying to change your mind @roamer_1   Nor have I any intention of voting for him -- however, IF he should name Noem as his VP, I may have to really do some soul searching and not vote for her. Anyone else that he's named so far, not a chance. 

My dream ticket was DeSantis/Noem or Noem/DeSantis. 

[Bigun]

Yeah. His martyr shtick is strong.

It's also true! If they can do it to him, they can do it to anyone! Roy Moore never had a chance.

[Hoodat]

They're not after me, they're after you.  I'm just in the way.

Weren't you just complaining about how Trump couldn't get anything done even with a Republican House and Senate?

THIS is what is known as 'circular reasoning'.

[roamer_1]

Well, all I can say is go back and watch Noem's speech before Trump's rally at Rushmore when BLM and others were blocking people from attending.  Her speech was pretty darn impressive and obviously she has great deep reasons for believing in Trump. She's been one heck of a governor.

One of my thoughts through all of this -- Trump is fighting to get the nomination and the GOP seated in the WH -- If that should somehow happen, I believe he will step down after his first term, perhaps even sooner.  Just an idea that has come to mind.

No, I am not in anyway trying to change your mind @roamer_1   Nor have I any intention of voting for him -- however, IF he should name Noem as his VP, I may have to really do some soul searching and not vote for her. Anyone else that he's named so far, not a chance. 

My dream ticket was DeSantis/Noem or Noem/DeSantis.

Oh I know @libertybele

And I'd pull the trigger for DeSantis/Noem in a second.

But Tump/Noem ... NOPE. And she'd be dead to me. No Conservative can survive being tied to such a liberal and stay true. Just look at Cruz.

[Bigun]

Weren't you just complaining about how Trump couldn't get anything done even with a Republican House and Senate?

THIS is what is known as 'circular reasoning'.

How so @Hoodat ? The house and senate sitting on their hands for two years is just one part of all that was done to sink President Trump and you are saying move on!

[roamer_1]

It's also true! If they can do it to him, they can do it to anyone! Roy Moore never had a chance.

Nah. He caused a lot of it. Including right into his current trials. He WANTS it judged in the court of public opinion. He WANTS the martyrdom. He wears it like a badge.

And plenty are taken in by the con.

And in the mean time You'll vote for MORE of the historic damage to liberty and treasure... Because martyr. Because Democrats. Because Deep State...

And it will only cost us trillions upon trillions, upon trillions.

AGAIN.

[DB]

If you're right, then why wouldn't Trump choose Kari Lake?

Kari used to WORK in the media. Meanwhile, today, she is the MAGAest of all the MAGA types who claim to be MAGA!

Me, I'd prefer Ben Carson.

But again, based off your description, I fail to see how Lake wouldn't be considered waaay above ex-recently-Demoncrat Tulsi.

MAGA ain't gonna trust Tulsi.

You do know that Kari Lake campaigned, to the point of going door to door for Obama. Kari may have had a leg to stand on if her head wasn't so far up Trump's ass.

[Hoodat]

How so @Hoodat ? The house and senate sitting on their hands for two years is just one part of all that was done to sink President Trump and you are saying move on!

If Trump wasn't in the way back then, how do you expect him to be in the way now?

[DB]

How so @Hoodat ? The house and senate sitting on their hands for two years is just one part of all that was done to sink President Trump and you are saying move on!

My larger point wasn't Trump. It was Republicans. And yet you'll vote for them anyway no matter what as long as you get a little less damage, maybe... My Rep is Andy Biggs and I have no problem voting FOR him. Beyond that I don't have much to vote FOR.

[Hoodat]

You do know that Kari Lake campaigned, to the point of going door to door for Obama.

Eleventieth dimensional chess.

[Bigun]

If Trump wasn't in the way back then, how do you expect him to be in the way now?

I have plainly stated my intentions @Hoodat you do whatever the hell you like but I'm very sure there are more like me than you and Donald John Trump is again going to be president again in 2025. Or there is going to be full blown civil war in this land. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.

Lastly, I don't see my voting for Trump is anything more than a vote FOR law and order.

[Hoodat]

I have plainly stated my intentions @Hoodat you do whatever the hell you like but I'm very sure there are more like me than you and Donald John Trump is again going to be president again in 2025. Or there is going to be full blown civil war in this land. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.

I understand your intent here.  I'm just sick of voting for a Party that demonstrates nothing but contempt for me and flat out refuses to offer me anything that will even remotely address the greatest threat this nation faces today.  If any candidate wants my vote, then they will espouse Conservatism to me.  Not only have neither Biden nor Trump done that, but they have both run up more debt in a four year period than any other President in US history.  And I simply cannot support that. 

[LMAO]

Was he in the way of Fauci and Brix?

[roamer_1]

Was he in the way of Fauci and Brix?

Well sorta.

They kinda had to stand a little behind him on the stage... 

[Smokin Joe]

He barely won it in 2016. By barely it was 47.3% to Hillary's 47%

Yeah, the 'fix' was in for that one, too, they just underestimated Trump's ability to get votes against Hillary.

Recall the shocked looks on the MSM faces when they couldn't count their way out of that one, and notice they fixed the fix for the next time.

[Smokin Joe]

Actually I am praying for a miracle.  Also I continue to pray that the Lord God Jesus Christ stops the evil that keeps prevailing in this country.

[massadvj]

If you're right, then why wouldn't Trump choose Kari Lake?

Kari used to WORK in the media. Meanwhile, today, she is the MAGAest of all the MAGA types who claim to be MAGA!

Me, I'd prefer Ben Carson.

But again, based off your description, I fail to see how Lake wouldn't be considered waaay above ex-recently-Demoncrat Tulsi.

MAGA ain't gonna trust Tulsi.

Kari Lake's negatives are too high. MAGA will do what MAGA always does when Trump announces anything: they will stand up and cheer, and then claim he was playing 4 dimensional chess the whole time. MAGA is a cult. It does not have any political philosophy except America first and anti-immigration.

[Polly Ticks]

Me, I'd prefer Ben Carson.

I very much like Ben Carson, but he's yet another septuagenarian. That's a 'no' for me, Dawg.

[bigheadfred]

Was he in the way of Fauci and Brix?

Yes.

[scottfreitas]

I very much like Ben Carson, but he's yet another septuagenarian. That's a 'no' for me, Dawg.

But, WHY?

Ben Carson was one of the world's leading neorosurgeons-- a literal brain surgeon. He is very into physical fitness. If you watch and listen to his RECENT interviews, he speaks fluidly, eloquently, never lost for words or stammering or checking notes. He ran HUD during Trumps' term, turning it around 180 degrees so that it was rated by government watchdogs as being the leanest, meanest most bang-for-the-buck cabinet agency in existence. He is truly CONSERVATIVE (and seriously Christian). Also highly knowledgeable concerning History and the Constitution (Trump's weak points, grrrr).

He was my first pick in 2016, and still would be excellent today.

And then the pragmatic side: Polly, don't you want to watch the Demoncrats try to make people people hate, oppose, a highly-intelligent, accomplished, soft-spoken black man who earned all his success BEFORE affirmative action and DEI?

BONUS: would gladly defer to De Santis in 2028, IF he in any way felt himself too old to handle 8 years of the Presidency. He is not a power-hungry guy. Never has been. Ran for Pres only because Obama had  him so upset.

Who are you rooting for as VP, then? I'm MAGA, but also love De Santis (he has proven his sincerity as an American-firster endlessly). Yet De Santis seems to have decided NOT to be VP, at this point.

[Hoodat]

But, WHY?

Ben Carson was one of the world's leading neorosurgeons-- a literal brain surgeon. He is very into physical fitness. If you watch and listen to his RECENT interviews, he speaks fluidly, eloquently, never lost for words or stammering or checking notes.

I don't want a neurosurgeon.  I want someone who knows how to balance a checkbook.  Someone like Dave Ramsey.  Or some guy who runs a check-cashing store in the hood.  I want someone who refuses to spend money beyond the amount in taxes collected.  Someone to tell the Fed to stick it where the sun don't shine.

[scottfreitas]

I don't want a neurosurgeon.  I want someone who knows how to balance a checkbook.

Excuse me?

Ben Carson ran one of our largest federal cabinet agencies and turned it totally around--from a wasteful, inefficient leftist-ran money sink into an effective, lean  agency wherein over 40% more of every dollar spent by HUD was used for its intended and stated purposes, rather than wasted on salaries, pensions, new furniture, new computers, etc

And he only ran for President because Obama pissed him off so much as a black man that he frankly wanted to show Obama what a GOOD President looked like.

He's done a LOT more than just balance checkbooks... :/

[Bigun]

Excuse me?

Ben Carson ran one of our largest federal cabinet agencies and turned it totally around--from a wasteful, inefficient leftist-ran money sink into an effective, lean  agency wherein over 40% more of every dollar spent by HUD was used for its intended and stated purposes, rather than wasted on salaries, pensions, new furniture, new computers, etc

And he only ran for President because Obama pissed him off so much as a black man that he frankly wanted to show Obama what a GOOD President looked like.

He's done a LOT more than just balance checkbooks... :/

 

[libertybele]

Ben Carson was not mentioned as one of Trump's VP picks.  His picks are; Noem, Vivek, Tulsi, and Scott. All poor picks in my opinion other than Noem.

[Cyber Liberty]

Ben Carson was not mentioned as one of Trump's VP picks.  His picks are; Noem, Vivek, Tulsi, and Scott. All poor picks in my opinion other than Noem.

I like Noem....

[scottfreitas]

Ben Carson was not mentioned as one of Trump's VP picks.  His picks are; Noem, Vivek, Tulsi, and Scott. All poor picks in my opinion other than Noem.

I'd have to go with Noem first out of that list, too.

I'd cross my fingers and choose Vivek second. Hoping, gambling, that he'd actually be as radically Originalist-Constitutionalist as he claimed to be.


Cuz both Tulsi and Scott score very low in those areas.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'd have to go with Noem first out of that list, too.

I'd cross my fingers and choose Vivek second. Hoping, gambling, that he'd actually be as radically Originalist-Constitutionalist as he claimed to be.


Cuz both Tulsi and Scott score very low in those areas.

Tulsi is an unrepentant Democrat, who says a few things we like while keeping her leftist card hidden.  Sort of like RFK Jr.

[libertybele]

I'd have to go with Noem first out of that list, too.

I'd cross my fingers and choose Vivek second. Hoping, gambling, that he'd actually be as radically Originalist-Constitutionalist as he claimed to be.


Cuz both Tulsi and Scott score very low in those areas.

Vivek?  You're kidding correct?  Neither of his parents were born in this country; that's a big red flag to me and it's a constitutional issue as well.  Nothing is known about him other than he aligned himself with Soros for $$$. The Soros connection alone should be a huge red flag.  He's a slick, smooth talker and would be perfect for a chewing gum commercial.  He's another O'Bammy.

[roamer_1]

Tulsi is an unrepentant Democrat, who says a few things we like while keeping her leftist card hidden.  Sort of like RFK Jr.

Understand me when I say this. I ain't throwin laurels at Gabbard and RFK Jr. But I find their presence encouraging. For a LONG TIME there have been no moderate Democrats to be found at all. To suddenly find a strain that is far right of their liberal friends - Still left of center, mind you - But I find that to be constructive... And an indication that the hard lock the liberals have had on the Democrat party may be beginning to shift.

Not sayin, jussayin. 

[roamer_1]

Vivek?  You're kidding correct?  Neither of his parents were born in this country; that's a big red flag to me and it's a constitutional issue as well.  Nothing is known about him other than he aligned himself with Soros for $$$. The Soros connection alone should be a huge red flag.  He's a slick, smooth talker and would be perfect for a chewing gum commercial.  He's another O'Bammy.

Yeah... Appeared out of nowhere with no record too.
Nope. None for me.

[Cyber Liberty]

Understand me when I say this. I ain't throwin laurels at Gabbard and RFK Jr. But I find their presence encouraging. For a LONG TIME there have been no moderate Democrats to be found at all. To suddenly find a strain that is far right of their liberal friends - Still left of center, mind you - But I find that to be constructive... And an indication that the hard lock the liberals have had on the Democrat party may be beginning to shift.

Not sayin, jussayin. 

They say they are, but words are dirt cheap when it comes to politicians.

[Cyber Liberty]

Vivek?  You're kidding correct?  Neither of his parents were born in this country; that's a big red flag to me and it's a constitutional issue as well.  Nothing is known about him other than he aligned himself with Soros for $$$. The Soros connection alone should be a huge red flag.  He's a slick, smooth talker and would be perfect for a chewing gum commercial.  He's another O'Bammy.

O'Bastard proved that N, B and C are dead letters.

[roamer_1]

They say they are, but words are dirt cheap when it comes to politicians.

Well sure. But it's been a long time since you heard many of them words coming out of Democrats. That's what I'm saying.

[roamer_1]

and by the way... WRT the statement upthread that no one is taking this poll seriously... Add a 'None of the above' selection and see what happens.

[scottfreitas]

Vivek?  You're kidding correct?  Neither of his parents were born in this country; that's a big red flag to me and it's a constitutional issue as well.  Nothing is known about him other than he aligned himself with Soros for $$$. The Soros connection alone should be a huge red flag.  He's a slick, smooth talker and would be perfect for a chewing gum commercial.  He's another O'Bammy.

People change. It'd be hard to imagine Vivek saying what he has, promoting the policies he has, and then getting elected and trying to govern as a Leftist.

His voters wouldn't let him get away with it. He'd quickly become the most hated man ever, protested and heckled everywhere he went. All while the Soros crowd continued demonizing him as being Hitler, and running far-left loons against him in his next election.

I DO care about legal citizenship, though. Was he born to two legal-citizen parents or not?

If not, we're down to Tulsi and Timmy, and I'd choose neither. NEVER Tim Scott so long as Dr.Ben Carson is still breathing.