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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2024, 07:12:07 pm »
Border Patrol agents 'absolutely' don't want to cut Texas razor wire, BUT ...

WND By Jennie Taer Daily Caller News Foundation 1/24/2024

'We have an obligation to follow a legal order'

Border Patrol agents don’t want to cut Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s border wire after the Supreme Court ordered that the federal government can take it down, National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that federal authorities can take down wire that Texas erected along the southern border, but the state is putting up more wire in Eagle Pass, Texas, at Shelby Park, which it took control of earlier this month. Border Patrol agents largely support Texas’ efforts, several rank-and-file agents recently told the DCNF .

“Agents absolutely do not want to cut the razor wire, but we have an obligation to follow a legal order,” Judd told the DCNF. “We will continue to put as much pressure on the admin to fix the crisis as we can. That will not change.”

More: https://www.wnd.com/2024/01/border-patrol-agents-absolutely-dont-want-cut-texas-razor-wire/

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Today, Texas National Guard is busy putting up more razor wire and barriers at Shelby Park in Eagle Pass Texas.


https://twitter.com/charlottecuthbo/status/1749865522596921697




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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2024, 07:15:36 pm »
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If the Constitution really made states powerless to defend themselves against an invasion, it wouldn’t have been ratified in the first place and Texas would have never joined the union when it did. 

TX is upholding the law while Biden is flouting it. 

FL will keep assisting Texas with personnel and assets.


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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2024, 07:16:47 pm »
Go Ron!!!!  He is absolutely correct and is standing by the Constitution and states' rights.
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2024, 07:22:43 pm »
The one party government is guilty of treason, failing and refusing to defend America from foreign invasion, only defending national defenses/borders of foreign nations like Afghanistan.  Abandoning Americans like Biden did in Afghanistan and hitlery abandoned our embassy.  They are our real enemies within our gates.  Our enemy government who rules here against us American citizens/American interests.
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2024, 07:28:45 pm »
Border Patrol agents 'absolutely' don't want to cut Texas razor wire, BUT ...

WND By Jennie Taer Daily Caller News Foundation 1/24/2024

'We have an obligation to follow a legal order'

Border Patrol agents don’t want to cut Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s border wire after the Supreme Court ordered that the federal government can take it down, National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that federal authorities can take down wire that Texas erected along the southern border, but the state is putting up more wire in Eagle Pass, Texas, at Shelby Park, which it took control of earlier this month. Border Patrol agents largely support Texas’ efforts, several rank-and-file agents recently told the DCNF .

“Agents absolutely do not want to cut the razor wire, but we have an obligation to follow a legal order,” Judd told the DCNF. “We will continue to put as much pressure on the admin to fix the crisis as we can. That will not change.”

More: https://www.wnd.com/2024/01/border-patrol-agents-absolutely-dont-want-cut-texas-razor-wire/

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Today, Texas National Guard is busy putting up more razor wire and barriers at Shelby Park in Eagle Pass Texas.


https://twitter.com/charlottecuthbo/status/1749865522596921697
How is an order to aid and abet the commission of felonies (each illegal invader is one) a legal order?  There is no  obligation.
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2024, 07:49:10 pm »
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2024, 08:02:36 pm »
GOP Governors Support Texas Gov. Abbott’s Efforts to Secure Border

Legal Insurrection by Mary Chastain Thursday, January 25, 2024

IMPORTANT: Abbott is *not* defying SCOTUS. The SCOTUS order means the feds can cut wire. It doesn’t say TX cannot install more wire or keep the feds away.

Republican governors and lawmakers have supported Texas Gov. Greg Abbott as the state adds more concertina wire after SCOTUS gave border patrol permission to cut the wire.

“James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and other visionaries who wrote the Constitution foresaw that States should not be left to the mercy of a lawless president who does nothing to stop external threats like cartels smuggling millions of illegal immigrants across the border,” stated Abbott. “That is why the Framers included both Article IV, § 4, which promises that the federal government ‘shall protect each [State] against invasion’ and Article I, § 10, Clause 3, which acknowledges the ‘the States’ sovereign interest in protecting their borders.’ Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387, 419 (2012)(Scalia, J., dissenting).”

Abbott isn’t even defying the SCOTUS order. SCOTUS vacated an injunction from the 5th Circuit that prevented border agents from cutting the wire except in the case of a medical emergency.

The order does not say Texas cannot add more wire. The order does not say that Texas has to give the border patrol access to the wire.

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The border is a disaster that continues to spiral out of control, both in terms of people and deadly fentanyl traffic. This is not a partisan issue. This is a national security issue. This is a common sense issue. This is an American issue.

Utah thanks Texas and Gov. Abbott for stepping up where the Biden Administration has failed over and over again.


https://twitter.com/GovCox/status/1750380041312297360

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Enough is enough. Our southern border is in crisis thanks to the Biden administration’s refusal to do their job.

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 and the state of Texas have our full support.

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/01/gop-governors-support-texas-gov-abbotts-efforts-to-secure-border/

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2024, 08:11:58 pm »
Top general: Texas has constitutional right to defend itself!

WND 1/25/2024

Biden has allowed invasion of millions through open border policies

Days ago, the Supreme Court ruled that the feds could cut the razor wire installed by Texas on its border with Mexico to protect its citizens from an invasion.

But that ruling, according to Gen. Michael Flynn, a military expert and President Trump’s early national security adviser, will be “one of the court’s most cowardly decisions” and it actually could “doom our nation.”

If it stands.

Because Texas has a right to defend itself.

He writes in a commentary at the Western Journal the decision wasn’t just about razor wire.

”It was about the role of states in our federal system and the betrayal of the nation — first by a president, and now by two Republican-appointed justices.”

He noted it was Biden who demanded that the nation’s southern border be open for illegal aliens to enter, more or less at will.

”This statement was so absurd that we knew at once that this man who had somehow assumed the presidency was not on our side. Biden had just sworn the president’s constitutionally prescribed oath to ‘preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,’ and within hours he had flung open the nation’s borders to all comers,” he noted.

He noted media criticism of Trump’s plan to spend $11 billion on a wall. But he said Biden’s plan is estimated to cost taxpayers $451 billion.

”Biden opened the door, and over 3.8 million people walked through. That number of illegals is greater than the population of 22 states and is on the verge of destroying the nation in every way by causing crime, drug deaths, child trafficking, terrorism, deficit spending and more. He could not have done any more damage to the nation if he had tried.”

The general said the ruling “deserves as much respect as its Dred Scott decision that no African-American could be a citizen, or its Korematsu decision that approved locking up Japanese-Americans during World War II, or its Roe v. Wade decision that led to the death of well over 40 million babies.”

A commentary at the Liberty Daily called the fight the most important political war in ages.

”I cringe when I hear about this or that being the most important battle in generations… except for now since I’m the one saying it. The battle between Texas and the United States government, between Governor Greg Abbott and Joe Biden, really is the most important political battle in ages. It’s not just our sovereignty at stake with a border invasion in progress. That alone is huge. It’s also the constitutional debate over state’s rights. It’s also the incessant question about judicial supremacy,” the commentary said.

More: https://www.wnd.com/2024/01/military-expert-says-texas-constitutional-right-defend/

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2024, 09:28:15 pm »
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Invasion is an act of war

Aiding an invasion is treason

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2024, 09:29:22 pm »
happy77  That's another 8 governor's who have joined.  Truly important.  Half the country is now taking sides with TX.    :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

Civil war anyone??

Huh. The Rockies (less CO of course), the Northern Plains, and the South. No surprise there except KS.

But it ain't civil war.

This is nullification, and the proper form of it.

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« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2024, 09:34:39 pm »
There is, no doubt, a right of way, for wont of a better term, which necessarily falls within the jurisdiction of the federal government in every legal sense...

But there is also a setback from that right of way that absolutely belongs to the state, and there ain't a damn thing the feds can do about what the state erects there.

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #62 on: January 25, 2024, 10:00:00 pm »
                                                                    Border Crisis

Gov. Abbott Is Right: Texas Has The Right To Defend Itself And Secure Its Border


The Federalist  By: John Daniel Davidson January 25, 2024

States have a fundamental right of self-defense that transcends the authority of the president and the Supreme Court.


The constitutional crisis that’s been building at the southern border reached a sharp point on Wednesday when Texas Gov. Greg Abbott asserted his state’s right to defend itself against invasion, arguing the Biden administration has “broken the compact between the United States and the States.”

It’s not an overstatement to say this is the worst constitutional crisis since the Civil War and that we’re in uncharted waters now. There have been times in our history when a state has defied the enforcement of federal laws, but we’ve never faced a situation where the federal government has refused to enforce its laws and even violated them. And because the border crisis involves the question of security, Abbott’s assertion of state authority cuts right to the heart of the question at hand, which is one of first principles: Does a polity have the right to defend itself, to preserve its existence in the face of invasion?

The answer is, of course, yes. The preservation of the polity must come before process arguments about whose job it is to enforce federal immigration laws. The state of Texas, in this case, has an authority that transcends that of President Biden and the Supreme Court. That’s precisely why the U.S. Constitution includes a clause explicitly recognizing a state’s right to act in self-defense when faced with invasion.

It shouldn’t have come to this, but Biden has not only refused to enforce federal immigration laws, his administration has been blatantly violating them for three years, triggering the worst illegal immigration crisis in U.S. history. Texas has borne the brunt of Biden’s dereliction of duty, and Abbott has at last decided to do something about it.

Specifically, Abbott has ordered the Texas National Guard and other Texas law enforcement agencies under his charge to take control of certain parts of the border, erect barriers, and apprehend those who attempt to enter the state illegally. This week, following the Supreme Court’s decision to side with the Biden administration and vacate an injunction that prohibited the feds from cutting razor wire Texas had placed across a stretch of border, Abbott went a step further. He declared that by failing to fulfill his constitutional duties to protect states from invasion, Biden has triggered Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which stipulates that states are not allowed to “enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded.”

More: https://thefederalist.com/2024/01/25/gov-abbott-is-right-texas-has-the-right-to-defend-itself-and-secure-its-border/




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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #63 on: January 25, 2024, 10:03:09 pm »

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1750621519129027032

I expect Biden to do just that - but then what about the right of TX to defend itself???

IF SCOTUS would have ruled in TX favor, they'd be looking at a different scenario. 

Meanwhile we still have an invasion and how can SCOTUS justify allowing that to happen?  They can't!!

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« Reply #64 on: January 25, 2024, 10:11:58 pm »
GOP fighting Biden's newest scheme to leave southern border wide open

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Lawmaker plans to ban feds from removing state's razor wire

As part of the Republican Party’s campaign to protect Americans through a secure border with Mexico, they are pushing for a ban that would prevent the feds from removing razor wire the state of Texas has installed to protect its citizens.

Areport from Fox News explains the plan is from rep. Mike Collins, R-Ga.

His legislation would ban federal authorities from removing razor wire or other barriers from the U.S.-Mexico border.

That follows a narrow ruling from the Supreme Court that said federal agents could, in fact, endanger Texans by taking down the security barrier.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has been in a pitched battle with Joe Biden and has dispatched the state National Guard to protect state citizens from the invasion that Biden has allowed to come across the border.

”President Biden is aiding and abetting illegal aliens who are swarming our border and raiding our country’s resources,” Collins explained. “Why else would he try to stop the state of Texas from turning them back to Mexico?”

The proposed Restricting Administration Zealots from Obliging Raiders, or "RAZOR," Act specifically prevents federal authorities like Customs and Border Protection from removing barriers erected by any state.

Biden has demanded that federal agents cut the barriers state officials have put in place to protect the state’s citizens.

Following the Supreme Court decision, Abbott also pointed out that Biden had failed to uphold the nation's compact with Texas “by allowing an invasion of millions of illegal immigrants under the Biden administration.

Abbott charged, “The Executive Branch of the United States has a constitutional duty to enforce federal laws protecting states, including immigration laws on the books right now. President Biden has refused to enforce those laws and has even violated them.”

More: https://www.wnd.com/2024/01/gop-working-fight-bidens-scheme-southern-border-wide-open/

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« Reply #65 on: January 25, 2024, 10:17:50 pm »
Tucker Carlson Calls on 'Men of Texas' To Defend Border

Newsweek 1/23/2024

Tucker Carlson appeared to question the "men of Texas" after America's highest court ruled that miles of barbed wire installed by Texas Governor Greg Abbott could be removed.

Justices ruled 5-4 in favor of the Biden administration, which argued that the area of Eagle Pass should be protected by measures the federal government agreed with, rather than Texas, in order to prevent Border Patrol agents from being granted access to key areas.

Texas said instruments such as razor wire and other measures are useful in keeping people from crossing the border.

A spokesman for Texas Governor Greg Abbott told Newsweek: "The absence of razor wire and other deterrence strategies encourages migrants to make unsafe and illegal crossings between ports of entry, while making the job of Texas National Guard soldiers and DPS troopers more dangerous and difficult."

Carlson said later on X: "So it's unanimous: everyone in power, from the White House, to the hedge fund managers, to the Supreme Court of the United States has decided to destroy the country by allowing it to be invaded.

"That leaves the population to defend itself. Where are the men of Texas? Why aren't they protecting their state and the nation?"

Newsweek has approached Carlson for comment via direct message on X.

Fears of vigilante groups manning the Texas border have been raised by non-government organizations (NGO) previously and include concern about Texas HB20.

The legislation would create a 'Border Protection Unit.' Republicans had moved the attached language regarding the provision to an amendment of House Bill 7 after House Bill 20 failed to pass in May last year, but the State Senate couldn't agree on the bill in its final shape.

Under the provisions, citizen members of the unit would have the power to "detain persons crossing the Texas-Mexico border unlawfully" and arrest them.

Human Rights Watch slammed the idea, saying, "People serving in the unit would be granted criminal and civil immunity against claims of wrongdoing."

The NGO added that the provisions would give "Texas police power to vigilantes."

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has said it is neighboring Arizona that has been a "hub" for vigilantes looking to police the border, but that "Texas has recently experienced considerable activity."

Appearances of vigilante groups or lone actors relying on their convictions remain a sensitive topic. Governor Greg Abbott was heavily criticized in 2019 when a gunman shot 23 people in El Paso.

A campaign leaflet for the governor appeared that year called on people to "defend" Texas and "take matters into our own hands." Abbott's campaign said it was just normal campaign language.

More: https://www.newsweek.com/texas-border-mexico-supreme-court-tucker-carlson-1863295

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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #66 on: January 25, 2024, 11:20:20 pm »

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1750621519129027032

No, he can't. Ultimately the CoC of the Texas Guard is the Governor, not the President. If the President wants to nationalize the Texas Guard, it is only by the Gov's acquiescence.

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« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2024, 11:24:58 pm »
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2024, 11:27:59 pm »
Border Patrol agents 'absolutely' don't want to cut Texas razor wire, BUT ...

WND By Jennie Taer Daily Caller News Foundation 1/24/2024

'We have an obligation to follow a legal order'

Border Patrol agents don’t want to cut Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s border wire after the Supreme Court ordered that the federal government can take it down, National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that federal authorities can take down wire that Texas erected along the southern border, but the state is putting up more wire in Eagle Pass, Texas, at Shelby Park, which it took control of earlier this month. Border Patrol agents largely support Texas’ efforts, several rank-and-file agents recently told the DCNF .

“Agents absolutely do not want to cut the razor wire, but we have an obligation to follow a legal order,” Judd told the DCNF. “We will continue to put as much pressure on the admin to fix the crisis as we can. That will not change.”

More: https://www.wnd.com/2024/01/border-patrol-agents-absolutely-dont-want-cut-texas-razor-wire/

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Today, Texas National Guard is busy putting up more razor wire and barriers at Shelby Park in Eagle Pass Texas.


https://twitter.com/charlottecuthbo/status/1749865522596921697
What about their obligation to following their sworn oath:
 OATH OF OFFICE
I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental
reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which
I am about to enter. So help me God.

Are they perjurers? If they don't think they need to follow their sworn oath than why should they feel obligated to follow a 'legal order' that makes them facilitators of a foreign invasion?

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« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2024, 11:31:39 pm »
Ok...what are the guesses on what's going to happen here?
1.  Biden comes to his senses and backs down.
2.  This becomes a pissing match and lasts for weeks/months.
3.  There is some type of military confrontation.

My bet is #1.  Not even Biden is stupid enough to cause a military confrontation.

Thoughts?

Or #4, Biden declares Texas 'under rebellion', and their representation in Congress is suspended as well as their electoral votes in the Presidential election.  Trump picks up Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona, but still loses to Biden 251-247.
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« Reply #70 on: January 25, 2024, 11:39:30 pm »
Can he even do this?

You clearly don't understand how fascism works.
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2024, 12:40:25 am »
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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Re: Gov. Abbott Stands His Ground
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2024, 12:41:21 am »
Or #4, Biden declares Texas 'under rebellion', and their representation in Congress is suspended as well as their electoral votes in the Presidential election.  Trump picks up Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona, but still loses to Biden 251-247.
How many states would follow? What election?
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« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2024, 08:43:37 am »
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10 states with the most guns per capita:

1. Montana (66.4% of adults)
2. Wyoming (66% of adults)
3. Alaska (64.5% of adults)
4. Idaho (60.1% of adults)
5. WV (58.5% of adults)
6. AR (57.2% of adults)
7. MS (56.3% of adults)
8. AL (55.2% of adults)
9. SD (55.1% of adults)
10. ND (55% of adults)

All 10 of these states support the Texas Border Resistance against the federal government.
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« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2024, 08:59:37 am »
House Speaker Mike Johnson Is the Latest to Support Texas on Border Crisis

RedState By Ward Clark 1/25/2024

On Wednesday, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) took to X/Twitter in support of Texas Governor Greg Abbott in the state's confrontation with the Biden Administration. Speaker Johnson has named "...holding Secretary Mayorkis accountable" as the House of Representative's next step.

The Speaker said on X/Twitter:

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I stand with Governor Abbott. The House will do everything in its power to back him up.

The next step: holding Secretary Mayorkas accountable.


https://twitter.com/SpeakerJohnson/status/1750375316478931298

It is unclear what the House is doing to help Texas in this, other than holding hearings against Homeland Security Chief Alejandro Mayorkis, who is largely seen as the architect of the current calamity on the southern border.

    Removing Mayorkas from his post would have little impact on the feud between Texas and the federal government, even as the GOP argues he should be removed over his handling of the border.

    It’s also unlikely to happen, given that it would require a two-thirds vote in the Democrat-led Senate.

    But Johnson’s support comes as some Democrats have called on President Biden to take a tougher stance with Texas, which through Operation Lone Star has taken a number of measures challenging the federal government.

    That includes placing buoys in the Rio Grande, prompting the federal government to take Texas to court.

    And earlier this month, Texas officials took over a public park on the shores of the Rio Grande in Eagle Pass, using Texas National Guard troops to block the Border Patrol from accessing the park.

As the article notes, any action the House takes will almost certainly die in the Democrat-controlled Senate, especially as the removal of a "civil Officer" under Article 2, Section 4 and Article 1, Section 3, requires a two-thirds of the Senate to approve.

More: https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/01/25/update-texas-border-crisis-speaker-of-the-house-mike-johnson-supports-texas-n2169211

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You will do what I say!! As I say ... dammit ... gehorche mir, du Schwein!!



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« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2024, 09:34:26 am »
Trump to States: Use National Guard to Remove Migrants Across Border

Former President Donald Trump called on governors to use their National Guard soldiers to remove migrants back across the border. His post on Truth Social follows statements from 25 Republican governors supporting the State of Texas’s standoff against the Biden administration in Shelby Park.

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« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2024, 09:39:26 am »
RFK Jr. praises Texas in battle with Biden over border

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Thursday backed Texas in its ongoing battle with the federal government over border authority, criticizing the Biden administration for its handling of the U.S. southern border.

“Texas is right. Biden’s failure to secure the border leaves states no choice but to take matters into their own hands,” Kennedy wrote in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. “As President, I will end this humanitarian crisis once and for all. I will secure the border and destroy the business model of the drug cartels. A country without borders is not a country at all.”

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« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2024, 09:42:09 am »
It Is Not Texas That’s Defying the Law — It’s Biden

National Review By Andrew C. McCarthy 1/25/2024

There is a great deal of moronic commentary accusing the State of Texas of defying the Supreme Court. In point of fact, the Supreme Court did not order Texas to do anything. It vacated an order by the Fifth Circuit that, during the pendency of an ongoing lawsuit between the feds and the state, barred federal authorities from cutting concertina wire that Texas has installed in parts of its 1,254-mile border with Mexico. That is, the Supreme Court (with no opinion, and over the objection of four justices, who also did not write) held that, for now, the lower courts may not prevent the federal authorities from dismantling barriers.

That Supreme Court action did not to direct Texas to do anything. The Court did not presume to tell Texas that it could not take action to protect its territory and exclude intruders — to have done so would have been constitutionally dubious for the reasons Justice Antonin Scalia explained nearly a dozen years ago in his Arizona v. United States opinion — which Governor Gregg Abbott has explicitly relied on, and which should be read, reread, and memorized. (Note: Abbott described the 2012 Scalia opinion as a “dissent”; it actually concurred in part and dissented in part with the Court’s multilayered decision.)

There is no doubt that the federal and state governments both have immigration- and border-enforcement authority. How they work out disputes, particularly under circumstances in which no attempt has been made by Congress in statutory law to prevent the lawful defensive measures Texas has taken, is a political question. This is vertical rather than horizontal separation of powers — collision between federal and state authority rather than presidential and congressional authority — but the dynamic is similar: The law’s preference is for the political officials who answer to the people whose lives are deeply affected to work it out.

Although I disagree with the high Court’s vacating of the Fifth Circuit injunction against DHS (our editorial leans that way, too), I think I understand why it was done (i.e., why Justice Amy Coney Barrett sided with the majority rather than with the other four conservative justices).

Border enforcement is a political duty, not a judicial one. It involves matters of security and diplomacy that are not within the judicial ken. The state government has border-enforcement authority, and the federal government has border-enforcement authority. The actor whose border-enforcement authority is questionable is the Court. I assume the Court was uncomfortable with federal judges’ telling the Biden administration how to carry out border enforcement; I assume the justices would be equally reluctant to endorse a court’s telling Texas how to do it.

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« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2024, 09:49:39 am »
BORDER SHOWDOWN: Texas’ Constitutional Right to Defend Against Invasion Supersedes Federal Law, Says Governor
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Texas Governor Gregg Abbott asserts Texas’ constitutional right to defend and protect itself as it relates to the ongoing border crisis gripping the state. His analysis comes in a statement issued on Wednesday while state and federal authorities square off over granting federal agents access to Shelby Park in Eagle Pass, Texas. Governor Abbott ordered state authorities to seize the park in early January. The statement faults President Biden for refusing to enforce immigration laws in the state.

Abbott’s statement asserts in part:

President Biden has violated his oath to faithfully execute immigration laws enacted by Congress. Instead of prosecuting immigrants for the federal crime of illegal entry, President Biden has sent his lawyers into federal courts to sue Texas for taking action to secure the border.

President Biden has instructed his agencies to ignore federal statutes that mandate the detention of illegal immigrants. The effect is to illegally allow their en masse parole into the United States.

By wasting taxpayer dollars to tear open Texas’s border security infrastructure, President Biden has enticed illegal immigrants away from the 28 legal entry points along this State’s southern border— bridges where nobody drowns—and into the dangerous waters of the Rio Grande.

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« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2024, 12:10:43 pm »

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« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2024, 12:17:52 pm »
There ain't enough popcorn for this coming Biden shitshow!.

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« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2024, 01:59:30 pm »
Oklahoma is getting ready to send their National Guard to help Texas in their fight against illegal immigration and the Biden administration.

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« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2024, 02:56:01 pm »
Texas' dispute with Biden over border crisis escalates

The Center Square By Bethany Blankley 1/25/2024

Congressional Democrat calls on Biden to federalize Texas Guard; Consitutional law expert says Congress should determine if that would be impeachable offense

(The Center Square) – As the conflict between the federal government and Texas escalates over the state's right to defend its border with Mexico, Gov. Greg Abbott is not backing down as a congressional Democrat called on President Joe Biden to federalize the Texas National Guard.

If the Texas National Guard were federalized solely to usurp Abbott’s constitutional authority to secure the Texas border, Congress should consider whether doing so constitutes a high crime and misdemeanor – an impeachable offense – under the U.S. Constitution, a constitutional law expert told The Center Square.

After Abbott invoked his constitutional authority to defend Texas’ border on Wednesday, saying, “The federal government has broken the compact between the United States and the States,” reports surfaced that Biden could federalize the Texas National Guard. This would result in pulling them from the Texas border and breaking the chain of command under Abbott.

Abbott called up several thousand guard members and positioned them at the Texas-Mexico border through his border security mission, Operation Lone Star. After the U.S. Supreme Court this week ruled Border Patrol agents could destroy Texas' concertina wire barriers, Abbott instructed guardsmen to build more.

U.S. Rep. Joaquin Castro, a Democrat from San Antonio, said that if Abbott “defies” the Supreme Court’s ruling, Biden “needs to establish sole federal control of the Texas National Guard now.”

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« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2024, 03:12:25 pm »
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10 states with the most guns per capita:

1. Montana (66.4% of adults)
2. Wyoming (66% of adults)
3. Alaska (64.5% of adults)
4. Idaho (60.1% of adults)
5. WV (58.5% of adults)
6. AR (57.2% of adults)
7. MS (56.3% of adults)
8. AL (55.2% of adults)
9. SD (55.1% of adults)
10. ND (55% of adults)

All 10 of these states support the Texas Border Resistance against the federal government.
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Incidentally - see I tolja so ... Montana... more guns per square inch than anywhere. Very interesting the top states are mountain states in the PacNW, counting WY (which really ain't, but is our brother here in MT)

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« Reply #90 on: January 26, 2024, 03:40:00 pm »
Oklahoma is getting ready to send their National Guard to help Texas in their fight against illegal immigration and the Biden administration.

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This is starting to look like civil war isn't it?

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« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2024, 03:47:00 pm »
This is starting to look like civil war isn't it?

Hopefully not.  It's going to be a showdown. That's what I've been thinking -- blue states against red -- the FEDS will come in and try to take power away from the state guards.  Which means .... those individuals that are capable and able ... TX needs you! 

I wish I was about 10 years younger and in good health -- I'd be down there helping wherever I could.


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« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2024, 03:52:36 pm »
JUST IN: Senior Border Patrol official says they stand tall with Texas and have "no plans" to take down razor wire from the southern border.
 
America stands with Texas.
 
According to Fox News, a Border Patrol official told them that their relationship with Texas "remains strong."

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JUST IN: Senior Border Patrol official says they stand tall with Texas and have "no plans" to take down razor wire from the southern border.
 
America stands with Texas.
 
According to Fox News, a Border Patrol official told them that their relationship with Texas "remains strong."

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This is starting to look like civil war isn't it?
Yes ... sort of. Not the Civil War of the 1800s, but yes. It does look like a State vs. Federal kind of fight. I doubt anyone will be shooting anyone but the premise is the same.

In this case, Texas is clearly in the right to be able to defend itself. The latte sucking scum in Washington D.C. need to realize that they are dealing with real people and real problems who do not give a single shit about what they think.

Tell Biden to eat another ice cream cone. Hell man, eat a hundred ice cream cones and kiss my ass.
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« Reply #95 on: January 26, 2024, 04:16:26 pm »
Texas would be #1 but we don't admit to having any.  happy77
Exactly!
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Texas would be #1 but we don't admit to having any.  happy77

Oh, neither do we...

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Of those ten States, how many rank in the top ten in gun violence?
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Of those ten States, how many rank in the top ten in gun violence?

Six

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« Reply #99 on: January 26, 2024, 06:02:12 pm »
Wingnut postulates in reply 92 above:
"There ain't enough popcorn for this coming Biden sh*tshow!"

How many F-16's does Texas have?

(no nukes, at least... not yet)

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