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Offline rangerrebew

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New Research Says Doubling CO2 Leads To A ‘Sometimes’ Negative Greenhouse Effect
By Kenneth Richard on 15. January 2024

“Negative TOA [top of atmosphere] forcing of CO2 increase also happens outside of Antarctica. The Arctic sometimes exhibits strong negative CO2 forcing. This phenomenon even occurs in the tropics and mid-latitudes…” – Chen et al., 2024
It has previously been reported that as CO2 increases from 380 ppm to 1000 ppm, the CO2 greenhouse effect is negative (-2.9 W/m²) over Antarctica, or that CO2 “increases radiative cooling” there (Schmithüsen et al., 2015).

Also, the CO2 greenhouse effect is as “comparatively weak” (hovering around 0 W/m²) over Greenland as it is over Antarctica, but it is not negative there, as it is “invariably” above 0 W/m² in the Arctic. In other words, there is no such thing as a CO2-enhanced “polar amplification” at locations where it is commonly claimed CO2 is causing catastrophic ice melt.

https://notrickszone.com/2024/01/15/new-research-says-doubling-co2-leads-to-a-sometimes-negative-greenhouse-effect/
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Albedo...

Yup.  Something the alarmist modelers want to ignore, and not just in terms of the findings in the paper cited.  They also ignore the effects of light absorbing impurities (mostly soot from coal burning and forest fires) on ice pack albedo, and the albedo contributions to the urban heat island effect, then misattribute ice melt due to the former and all warming due to aggregate urban heat island effect to greenhouse gasses.
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