Live Thread>> Iowa Caucus 2024

[libertybele]

I am with you on that.  But unfortunately, Trump lacked the political and legal competence to stop it.  And he still does.  Heck, he can't even put up a good legal argument against those persecuting him now.  I'm still waiting for that moment where Trump rises up, acknowledges his mistakes, and wises up to hire people of competence, not people who kiss his ass.  But I haven't seen the first hint of that happening.

Trump will never be acquitted of the 91 felony charges against him...then who becomes the GOP nominee??

[Hoodat]

Trump will never be acquitted of the 91 felony charges against him...then who becomes the GOP nominee??

It won't matter at that point.  The Dems know what they are doing.  Trump is their best shot at winning.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Gregg Re
@gregg_re

Haha CNN @jaketapper has to immediately cut off trump’s victory speech in Iowa the moment he talks about policy, seconds after he says the southern border is open

Completely corrupt media


11:06 PM · Jan 15, 2024

[libertybele]

So by His current path... never. Or by the time it's too late. "God's perfect timing."

I'm tired. I'm hurt. My voice is shot from a second infection in the past two months. Basically, I give up.

I'm going to bed.

Good night.  Prayers up for you and your voice to heal.  Never give up and trust in the Lord.

[LMAO]

@jmyrlefuller

People are imperfect.  Even good people can sometimes be fooled/tricked by people lacking in virtue, and it can be very frustrating.  But if we're going to be honest, the Republicans running against Trump weren't great candidates.  I loved DeSantis' policies, but he just wasn't a good campaigner.  He's young and likely will learn from this and come back better.

You're not old enough to remember what it was like in this country in 1979-80, but let me tell that it was extremely depressing.  Felt like we were about to be ground under the inevitability of Soviet domination. Then along came Reagan, and that mindset changed overnight.  The best way to maximize the chances of that happening again is for people who share our beliefs to keep fighting back, even when things seem bad.

The whole 1970's was a malaise. Watergate, Vietnam, energy crisis that was worse than what we are experiencing today, crime, disco,  Laverne and Shirley, ect

[libertybele]

The whole 1970's was a malaise. Watergate, Vietnam, energy crisis that was worse than what we are experiencing today, crime, disco,  Laverne and Shirley, ect

Disco?   

[Right_in_Virginia]

 

Mollie
@MZHemingway

Vivek announces he's suspending his campaign and asks his supporters to join him in supporting Trump for president.

11:24 PM · Jan 15, 2024

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Vivek video:

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1747113572537164246

[Cyber Liberty]

Disco?   

Hmm....May God have mercy on your soul....

[Hoodat]

Vivek has served his purpose.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1747110823560954077

[roamer_1]

No different from Obama winning in 2008 or Biden winning in 2020.  The net result is that Big Government will get another big boost along with a big boost to the national debt.  The Swamp will be given positions of power at all levels.  And Conservatism will be trashed.  That is a guarantee no matter who wins in November.

Who won tonight?

Hegel did.
Alinsky did.

The funny part is that no one can see it. And so it goes.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Mike Lee
@BasedMikeLee

Thank you, @VivekGRamaswamy, for running a good, positive campaign and standing for consistently for constitutionally limited government.

Thank you for endorsing Donald Trump.

It’s not going to be easy to defeat Joe Biden.

We need all hands on deck.


11:26 PM · Jan 15, 2024

[Free Vulcan]

Trump barely eked out over 50%? In Iowa? Not the least bit impressive. I expected upwards of 70%

The Rats definitely gamed the caucus for Nikki Haley.

DeSantis did way better than I thought.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Michael Tracey
@mtracey

So basically both Nikki and Ron are claiming they’re the last man standing against Trump. Which suggests they’ll both continue campaigning mainly against each other, rather than Trump. Makes perfect sense

11:53 PM · Jan 15, 2024

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump barely eked out over 50%? In Iowa? Not the least bit impressive.

@tracegallagher: President Trump took a commanding and historic lead in the Iowa caucuses tonight, winning by the largest margin EVER in that state."   (Video)

https://twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1747123717367345196

[catfish1957]

My analysis of the 2024 Iowa Caucus with takeaways, winners and losers, even on peripheral front. 

Donald Trump-  Huge victory, with likely winning all 99 counties, and exceeding that 50% threshold.  Securing Vivek endorsement was a big boost too. I was impressed by the concilatory tone of his closing speech.  I was wondering what was with the strange breathing patterns.  I hope DJT is not having any health issues.  But in finale....   Quoting Bill Pullman-  Game Over Man-  Substantial WINNER

Ron Desantis-  Exceeded what I thought he would get in IA (21%), but considering what he sank into the race? Not good, and  No..... RDS is not going to win this nomination,  but his political obit (often parroted by even some of our Trump Briefers) is way too premature. NUETRAL

Nikki Haley- Seeing her gritting and clinching  her teeth out there last night on stage, was just another example of how badly this woman gets  rattled.  And  after her 3rd place finish, its showed again   Additonally Her speech rhetoric basically, and fully, and squarely was equating Trump and Biden evenly as Presidents.  This  was way over the top, and unnecessary.  Those quotes were  what I felt was the absolute biggest shock of the night.  This is one nasty bitch. LOSER

Vivek Ramaswamy- Has conceded, and has basically left the race, and endorsed DJT.  I think he expected a surprise.  I didn't and thought he would finish at about 5. He ended up with almost 8%,  which isn't bad since his views were the most aligned with Trump. NUETRAL

[LMAO]

My analysis of the 2024 Iowa Caucus with takeaways, winners and losers, even on peripheral front. 

Donald Trump-  Huge victory, with likely winning all 99 counties, and exceeding that 50% threshold.  Securing Vivek endorsement was a big boost too. I was impressed by the concilatory tone of his closing speech.  I was wondering what was with the strange breathing patterns.  I hope DJT is not having any health issues.  But in finale....   Quoting Bill Pullman-  Game Over Man-  Substantial WINNER

Ron Desantis-  Exceeded what I thought he would get in IA (21%), but considering what he sank into the race? Not good, and  No..... RDS is not going to win this nomination,  but his political obit (often parroted by even some of our Trump Briefers) is way too premature. NUETRAL

Nikki Haley- Seeing her gritting and clinching  her teeth out there last night on stage, was just another example of how badly this woman gets  rattled.  And  after her 3rd place finish, its showed again   Additonally Her speech rhetoric basically, and fully, and squarely was equating Trump and Biden evenly as Presidents.  This  was way over the top, and unnecessary.  Those quotes were  what I felt was the absolute biggest shock of the night.  This is one nasty bitch. LOSER

Vivek Ramaswamy- Has conceded, and has basically left the race, and endorsed DJT.  I think he expected a surprise.  I didn't and thought he would finish at about 5. He ended up with almost 8%,  which isn't bad since his views were the most aligned with Trump. NUETRAL

This wasn’t Ron’s year. I’m not as socially conservative as Ron DeSantis, although I find that stance hardening with.DEI and transitioning children. But on inflation and spending, I am more in sync with him than any other Republican candidate

Reagan lost the nomination to Gerald Ford in 1976, but sharpened up his message and campaign and came back to win in 1980 and won a landslide presidential election

[catfish1957]

This wasn’t Ron’s year. I’m not as socially conservative as Ron DeSantis, although I find that stance hardening with.DEI and transitioning children. But on inflation and spending, I am more in sync with him than any other Republican candidate

But Reagan lost the nomination to Gerald Ford in 1976, but sharpened up his message and campaign and came back to win in 1980 and won a landslide presidential election

RDS suffered from the same Trump/Stone/Pecker slime job that Cruz endured in '16.  This is SOP with any opponent that Trump thinks might beat him.

Also, on the RDS front, I think he needs to hone his delivery skills.  Too many times this cycle he has came across as whiney,  nasally, and has a bad habit of wandering off topic.
 
I know appearances and perceptions shouldn't matter, but in our modern world they do.   Till RDS works on these optics, I don't think he will have any success on the national stage.

[catfish1957]

//twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1747123717367345196

From my reviews, I don't believe a GOP candiate had ever exceeded 50% of the caucus vote.  Accolades are in order...  (grudgingly)

[LMAO]

RDS suffered from the same Trump/Stone/Pecker slime job that Cruz endured in '16.  This is SOP with any opponent that Trump thinks might beat him.

Also, on the RDS front, I think he needs to hone his delivery skills.  Too many times this cycle he has came across as whiney,  nasally, and has a bad habit of wandering off topic.
 
I know appearances and perceptions shouldn't matter, but in our modern world they do.   Till RDS works on these optics, I don't think he will have any success on the national stage.

Agree with everything that you said. Congratulations are in order for Donald Trump tonight. But conservatives have a long road ahead of them. And it’s gonna have to start at the state and local level to not only  fight Democrats on a lot of these issues, but Trump and his supporters as well.

[Free Vulcan]

https://twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1747123717367345196

Shape it, frame it, massage it, spin it - in Iowa he should have gotten at least two-thirds.

This is not a strong victory.

[mystery-ak]

Rachel Maddow: GOP Will Nominate Trump Then ‘He Is Going to Be Convicted’

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said on her network’s election night coverage that she believed former President Donald Trump would be both the Republican presidential nominee and convicted of crimes.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/01/15/rachel-maddow-gop-will-nominate-trump-then-he-is-going-to-be-convicted/

[mystery-ak]

AP Poll: Iowa Caucus-Winner Donald Trump Performs Even Better with Iowa GOP Women Than Men

Former President Donald Trump, the winner of the Iowa caucuses, performs even better with Iowa Republican women than he does with men.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/01/15/ap-poll-iowa-caucus-winner-donald-trump-performs-even-better-with-iowa-gop-women-than-men/

[mystery-ak]

 Trump poised to win 98 out of 99 Iowa counties
by Sarah Fortinsky - 01/16/24 7:51 AM ET

Former President Trump is poised to emerge the top candidate in 98 of Iowa’s 99 counties after Monday’s caucuses, with former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley edging him out in just one county.

Haley, seen as the more moderate candidate in the race, got the top spot in Johnson County, which is home to the University of Iowa. She bested Trump only by one vote, with 1,271 votes in the county favoring Haley, and 1,270 votes favoring the former president, according to election data from The Hill/Decision Desk HQ.

While the number of counties won by each candidate does not dictate the delegate apportionment, Trump’s near-sweep in the country’s first election contest demonstrates his commanding grip on the Republican Party ahead of November.

Ultimately, in Iowa, delegates are apportioned based on the vote share each candidate receives. By Tuesday morning, with about 110,298 votes counted, Trump had won 51 percent (56,260 votes) of all votes in the Hawkeye State, followed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s 21.2 percent (23,420 votes) and Haley’s 19.1 percent (21,085).

Trump secured 20 delegates, DeSantis secured eight of the county’s delegates, Haley secured seven and wealthy tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy secured just three delegates. Ramaswamy suspended his campaign following the disappointing performance, and endorsed Trump.

more
https://thehill.com/elections/4410753-trump-poised-to-win-98-of-99-iowa-counties/

[the OlLine Rebel]

Shape it, frame it, massage it, spin it - in Iowa he should have gotten at least two-thirds.

This is not a strong victory.

RON had a much bigger showing than anyone thought, eh?

So did even Haley.  20%?  We were supposed to be satisfied with 12% for one of them as the First Loser.

Anyone have the final tally?  This showed 96% in.  I’m hearing this is “biggest ever” margin for an Iowa caucus.  I thought Dole(!) got 64% margin….this is not that.

[catfish1957]

Anyone have the final tally?  This showed 96% in.  I’m hearing this is “biggest ever” margin for an Iowa caucus.  I thought Dole(!) got 64% margin….this is not that.

??????   

From Wikipedia... And Dole's 2 campaigns in Iowa Caucuses.

1988 (February 8): Bob Dole (37%), Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush (19%), Jack Kemp (11%), and Pete DuPont (7%)

1996 (February 12): Bob Dole (26%), Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%), Steve Forbes (10%), Phil Gramm (9%), Alan Keyes (7%), Richard Lugar (4%), and Morry Taylor (1%)

Almost forgot, but back in '87 his Dole's state campaign manager asked me to run his campaign in this quarter of the state.  Way too busy at work, at the time so declined.  Bob Dole was a true war hero, and I really admired him.