Heads Up on Artic Blast Early Next Week

[Right_in_Virginia]

Nothing worse than ice and burst water pipes.  If you lose heat, you may want to shut off the water and open the spigots to keep frozen water from bursting your pipes.

This IS good advice --- and worth repeating.

[roamer_1]

This IS good advice --- and worth repeating.

Far better to have redundant sources of heat, and be capable of at least short term power generation, as the whole rural north knows well

[Wingnut]

Snow is cyclical.  78 and 79 was a mother for the midwest.  Best skiing and sledding we ever had.  Bring on the snow.

[GtHawk]

Snow is cyclical.  78 and 79 was a mother for the midwest.  Best skiing and sledding we ever had.  Bring on the snow.

Had a good friend whose sister and her children were dragged by her husband to Ohio just in time for the worst winter in a very long time, as a matter of fact I think they called the blizzard of 1978 the storm of the century. Anyway it also blew up their marriage, you just don't take a SoCal girl into a situation like that and expect her to adapt.

[deb]

Had a good friend whose sister and her children were dragged by her husband to Ohio just in time for the worst winter in a very long time, as a matter of fact I think they called the blizzard of 1978 the storm of the century. Anyway it also blew up their marriage, you just don't take a SoCal girl into a situation like that and expect her to adapt.

That’s a brutal thing to do to someone who has only lived in the perfect climate (SoCal).
It’s -19 this morning. I’m officially starting my hibernation.

[jmyrlefuller]

That’s a brutal thing to do to someone who has only lived in the perfect climate (SoCal).
It’s -19 this morning. I’m officially starting my hibernation.

Darn shame that that perfect climate is in the hands of a sociopath like Newsom.

[mountaineer]

Snow is cyclical.  78 and 79 was a mother for the midwest. 

Lived in St. Louis at the time. It was brutal!

[Wingnut]

Lived in St. Louis at the time. It was brutal!

It was 5 days to flatten the curve.   er plow everyone out!

[catfish1957]

It was 5 days to flatten the curve.   er plow everyone out!

We have my wife's childhood home up near there.  This SE Texan endured his first and last blizzard up there in '13-'14.  Not going to happen again.

[GtHawk]

Darn shame that that perfect climate is in the hands of a sociopath like Noisome.

He's just the head sociopath, we have a whole slew of like minded sociopaths running our once fair state. I often dream of all the democrats including Noisome and Lt. Gov in session in Sacramento and Capitol sized SMOD punctuating them out of existence.............Does that make me a bad persson?

[Cyber Liberty]

Lived in St. Louis at the time. It was brutal!

I was a college student in Michigan for that.  My college closed for the better part of a week, and they had never closed before that, ever.  I worked at a college radio station, and I skied to work.

[Wingnut]

I was a college student in Michigan for that.  My college closed for the better part of a week, and they had never closed before that, ever.  I worked at a college radio station, and I skied to work.

Skied or skitched?

[Cyber Liberty]

Skied or skitched?

No cars on the road to skitch behind.    

I had Cross Country skis.  They were ideal in the city of Kalamazoo.

[roamer_1]

No cars on the road to skitch behind.    

Ah... hookey-bobbin, translated into Western.

[Cyber Liberty]

Ah... hookey-bobbin, translated into Western.

[Wingnut]

Ah... hookey-bobbin, translated into Western.

Same country. Different languages.

[roamer_1]

-31 last night, -66 with the wind chill. Not just here either... Points east of the hump too.

In case y'all don't get how cold that is, my kid, who is more prepared than any of us, lost power at 1 am, in the height of it.

Jenny wouldn't start.
Propane dried up because at that cold, it contracts enough in the can that it's minimal pressure is defeated.
Truck wouldn't start.

Just all done. All his preps for nothing.

Luckily the power came back on in 3 hrs, And all he had to deal with was a frozen wellhouse.

Lessons.

[roamer_1]

Same country. Different languages.

Yeah. Didn't know the word. @Cyber Liberty supplied the gist. 

Hookey-bobbin.

[Wingnut]

One time we were Hookey-bobbin/Skitchin behind a city sand/salt spreader (which seemed like a good idea at the time) when the driver flipped on the spreader.  I was spittin that crap out for hours!

[Bigun]

-31 last night, -66 with the wind chill. Not just here either... Points east of the hump too.

In case y'all don't get how cold that is, my kid, who is more prepared than any of us, lost power at 1 am, in the height of it.

Jenny wouldn't start.
Propane dried up because at that cold, it contracts enough in the can that it's minimal pressure is defeated.
Truck wouldn't start.

Just all done. All his preps for nothing.

Luckily the power came back on in 3 hrs, And all he had to deal with was a frozen wellhouse.

Lessons.

@roamer_1 Below -43 deg. F propane will remain liquid forever. No vaporization at all.

Back in the old days all of us rural southern folk had Butane tanks buried in the ground because butane does the same thing propane does but at +33Deg F.  Now they have learned how to turn Butane into gasoline, and everyone had to switch to propane. (Every once in a while I run across an old, above ground, Butane tank that has, or once had, a vaporizer built in. They used an open flame to vaporize the butane.  YIKES!)

[roamer_1]

One time we were Hookey-bobbin/Skitchin behind a city sand/salt spreader (which seemed like a good idea at the time) when the driver flipped on the spreader.  I was spittin that crap out for hours!

 

Not to mention, instant traction. 

You and me are evidence of armies of angels protecting believers and fools. 

[Hoodat]

Send some of that snow south of Tennessee, y'all

[bigheadfred]

Send some of that snow south of Tennessee, y'all

I think you would be better off having an orange creamsickle and calling it good.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1 Below -43 deg. F propane will remain liquid forever. No vaporization at all.

Back in the old days all of us rural southern folk had Butane tanks buried in the ground because butane does the same thing propane does but at +33Deg F.  Now they have learned how to turn Butane into gasoline, and everyone had to switch to propane. (Every once in a while I run across an old, above ground, Butane tank that has, or once had, a vaporizer built in. They used an open flame to vaporize the butane.  YIKES!)

I went away from butane long ago - It's worse than propane in the cold, so I stepped off from butane for camp heat and stoves and lanterns. But yeah, in extreme cold, propane will stop working. Either keep a bottle inside with you, or make sure it's buried deep. So I have life-long eschewed propane too in camp, untill recently with the advent of Buddy Heaters.

Old lessons come back to bite... because the boy's buddy heaters wouldn't pop on, no matter what

The ONLY thing that starts in 30 below is a match... Wood works, no matter what.

[DB]

@roamer_1 Below -43 deg. F propane will remain liquid forever. No vaporization at all.

Back in the old days all of us rural southern folk had Butane tanks buried in the ground because butane does the same thing propane does but at +33Deg F.  Now they have learned how to turn Butane into gasoline, and everyone had to switch to propane. (Every once in a while I run across an old, above ground, Butane tank that has, or once had, a vaporizer built in. They used an open flame to vaporize the butane.  YIKES!)

I didn't know that (the specific temperatures). So I assume that a buried propane tank pretty much works anywhere where there is civilization.

[roamer_1]

I didn't know that (the specific temperatures). So I assume that a buried propane tank pretty much works anywhere where there is civilization.

Yes. Here, anyway. Though there are plenty here that ain't buried. The hillbillies bury en.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Might want to add a scarf. 

[bigheadfred]

Might want to add a scarf. 

He scarfed down that beer well enough.

[Right_in_Virginia]

He scarfed down that beer well enough.

That he did.   

[Gefn]

its ccoooooooollllld outside

[Right_in_Virginia]

LOL - going to an event during a blizzard to scream the planet is on fire is peak idiot.(Video)

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1746266356935237782

[Polly Ticks]

Had a good friend whose sister and her children were dragged by her husband to Ohio just in time for the worst winter in a very long time, as a matter of fact I think they called the blizzard of 1978 the storm of the century. Anyway it also blew up their marriage, you just don't take a SoCal girl into a situation like that and expect her to adapt.

That brought back memories of a sort.  I was young enough during the '78 blizzard to think it all just great fun and a wonderful LOOOOOOOOONG school break.

However, in January 1994, I had been married about 6 weeks. The weathermen were predicting a wintry mix followed by a few inches of snow. The wintry mix came through well enough and dropped a solid layer of ice over everything, and then we had an episode of thundersnow overnight that dropped 15-18 inches of snow in the metro area and 20 inches at my house just a little farther out, followed by temperatures in the 20 below range for a few days. Pretty much the entire city of Louisville shut down for most of a week.  I'm the "let's stay in and watch movies and stay safe and warm" sort, and my husband was the "let's drive around and see how crazy it is everywhere" sort.  It was a trial by fire .... errrrr, snow .... but our fledgling marriage managed to survive.

[libertybele]

its ccoooooooollllld outside

Indeed it is!!

[Cyber Liberty]

I  would like to take a moment here....

We talk a lot about the weather here, and we drop a lot of jests about how hot or cold we have it.  I've gotten my share in! 

We are seeing a brutal cold coming in in most of the country right now and it has us all so worried about our dear friends. Worried enough to all of us to express prayers and love to keep us all safe.

Some of us are lucky because we are in the small corner of our country that is spared from the cold temperatures. From those of us, I want to offer Prayers for my TBR family in the teeth of this.  I am so lucky.   We joke at how I get such high temperatures (120F), but I love the heat!  I would never trade.  That said, I am in fear for my dear friends that they be spared the wrath!

May God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost spare us all in this.  May all of us see each other in the week ahead.

Amen!

[libertybele]

I  would like to take a moment here....

We talk a lot about the weather here, and we drop a lot of jests about how hot or cold we have it.  I've gotten my share in! 

We are seeing a brutal cold coming in in most of the country right now and it has us all so worried about our dear friends. Worried enough to all of us to express prayers and love to keep us all safe.

Some of us are lucky because we are in the small corner of our country that is spared from the cold temperatures. From those of us, I want to offer Prayers for my TBR family in the teeth of this.  I am so lucky.   We joke at how I get such high temperatures (120F), but I love the heat!  I would never trade.  That said, I am in fear for my dear friends that they be spared the wrath!

May God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost spare us all in this.  May all of us see each other in the week ahead.

Amen!

Amen.

[Hoodat]

Supposed to be getting close to zero here in the Heart of Dixie.  I just pulled the grill off the porch and into the living room in case we lose power.  Propane is low, but I got plenty of charcoal and lighter fluid.

[240B]

Supposed to be getting close to zero here in the Heart of Dixie.  I just pulled the grill off the porch and into the living room in case we lose power.  Propane is low, but I got plenty of charcoal and lighter fluid.

@Hoodat

Watch out for carbon monoxide. That stuff will kill you and you will not see or smell anything. Suddenly, out of nowhere, you're dead.

Yep, here we go. For me, it is hitting tonight and through next week. It is odd to wake up and get a temperature in the morning and then see the temp go down during the day. The day is 'supposed' to warm up, not get colder.

[corbe]

[libertybele]

@Hoodat

Watch out for carbon monoxide. That stuff will kill you and you will not see or smell anything. Suddenly, out of nowhere, you're dead.

Seriously.

[roamer_1]

Supposed to be getting close to zero here in the Heart of Dixie.  I just pulled the grill off the porch and into the living room in case we lose power.  Propane is low, but I got plenty of charcoal and lighter fluid.

WOO! Don't forget the cheddar jalapeno dogs..

[Hoodat]

WOO! Don't forget the cheddar jalapeno dogs..

Copy that.

[mountaineer]

Be glad you're not in the Peoples' Republic of Canuckistan:

Rolling blackouts for Alberta tonught. The province is now feeling the full effect of Rachel Notley prematurely shutting down our coal plants. Wind and Solar at ZERO, while Natural Gas is barely keeping the lights on, literally.

https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1746349920188002442

[Gefn]

https://youtu.be/Hvtc9BWahMQ


hope that helps people stay warm. it's so cold - and now I have that song by the Stones stuck in my head.

[240B]

The Independent, 2000:
This was 24 years ago.

Snow is starting to disappear from our lives. Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture, as warmer winters – which scientists are attributing to global climate change – produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries … Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community … According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit of the University of East Anglia, within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event". "Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.

Stand by for icy blasts and heavy snow

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/children-just-arent-going-to-know-what-snow-is/news-story/5a16c85680b7cc94f345240a727fb09d

Do you get it? Everybody understands? The Global Warming freaks say no more cold weather, ever. And no more snow.

[Hoodat]

Be glad you're not in the Peoples' Republic of Canuckistan:

Rolling blackouts for Alberta tonught. The province is now feeling the full effect of Rachel Notley prematurely shutting down our coal plants. Wind and Solar at ZERO, while Natural Gas is barely keeping the lights on, literally.

This showcases why elections matter.  While in power in Alberta for only four years out of the last half century, Canadian leftists were able to inflict such a severe and long-lasting impact on the average Albertan.  Notley should be given hard prison time for any Albertan who freezes to death because of rolling blackouts.

[Smokin Joe]

@Hoodat

Watch out for carbon monoxide. That stuff will kill you and you will not see or smell anything. Suddenly, out of nowhere, you're dead.

Yep, here we go. For me, it is hitting tonight and through next week. It is odd to wake up and get a temperature in the morning and then see the temp go down during the day. The day is 'supposed' to warm up, not get colder.

Very seriously. Nothing to mess with, I know of a young lady who died of Carbon Monoxide poisoning just using a Coleman Lantern to warm her tent--in Sturgis one August.

Burning charcoal can be a killer, and it produces high levels of CO.
Propane, burned with a catalytic heater, produces less, but ventilation is needed to keep levels of CO from becoming dangerous. (Ice fishermen using tents or 'ice houses' just keep the temp warm enough for their cold weather gear to be comfortable, with constant ventilation.)
 

The EPA recommends that indoor CO levels should not exceed 9 parts per million (ppm) for more than 8 hours, or 35 ppm for more than 1 hour.

[Smokin Joe]

Thirty one below in the North Dakota banana belt this morning, same yesterday, only with wind (-61 wind chill yesterday). Posters are up for a chap who is missing and has been for a few days, although if he isn't somewhere warm, I don't hold out much hope for him, although God has  worked miracles before.

It's Winter.

[roamer_1]

Thirty one below in the North Dakota banana belt this morning, same yesterday, only with wind (-61 wind chill yesterday). Posters are up for a chap who is missing and has been for a few days, although if he isn't somewhere warm, I don't hold out much hope for him, although God has  worked miracles before.

It's Winter.

It's pushing out over here... Only got -11 or so last night, and at -2 right now... by the end of the week back in the 30s...

[Free Vulcan]

-19 in the Florida of Iowa this a.m. We were actually colder than NE IA in the little cold pocket here.

People hate it, but this kind of cold kills things you don't want, and keeps others from migrating up here, like fire ants. Keep them evil things down there.

[Smokin Joe]

-19 in the Florida of Iowa this a.m. We were actually colder than NE IA in the little cold pocket here.

People hate it, but this kind of cold kills things you don't want, and keeps others from migrating up here, like fire ants. Keep them evil things down there.

Yep. Spending a couple weeks with the Folks, where I grew up, I was appalled at the rate of decay of wood and steel. The former succumbs to a remarkable assortment of fungi and insects we don't have here in North Dakota. Any papers from my youth and books are generally placed in cold storage for a winter or two before being brought in the house, just to assure the death of all those nasty little critters that would doom my library to destruction or total fumigation.

The latter is destroyed thanks to high humidity and salt in the air...again, at an appalling rate.