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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #325 on: November 24, 2023, 05:39:47 pm »
HOPIUM by the butt ton.  *****rollingeyes*****
Indeed! Even if somehow the Universe stopped expanding and Trump was re-elected, he would be a four year lame duck with democrats holding both houses doing and spending all they want and Trump would still rubber stamp all their bills because........he's all bluster, or as the Texans say all hat and no cattle. And as far as the history books? democrats control all that is written there and have for a long time.

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« Reply #326 on: November 24, 2023, 05:42:02 pm »
Indeed! Even if somehow the Universe stopped expanding and Trump was re-elected, he would be a four year lame duck with democrats holding both houses doing and spending all they want and Trump would still rubber stamp all their bills because........he's all bluster, or as the Texans say all hat and no cattle. And as far as the history books? democrats control all that is written there and have for a long time.

That's right. A battleship mouth and a rowboat ass.  :beer:

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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #327 on: November 24, 2023, 05:45:15 pm »


@Maj. Bill Martin

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First of all,he HAS NO POLITICAL FUTURE. One more 4 year term is ALL he is going to get.

Secondly,the "legacy" he dreams of is going into the history  books as "The President that saved America from being overran with  illegal aliens,and the President that saved America from socialism/communism."

AND.....,he only has 4 years to do it,and he knows this. Anybody that thinks he is going to be worried about stepping on someone's toes needs to consider that. NOTHING is more important to him than his ego and how he gets written about in the history  books.

AND......,to top it off,he COULDN'T do worse than any of his opponents would do,even if  he tried.

Well, you did get a couple of things correct @sneakypete  Trump has no political future.

Nothing is more important than is ego and that is one reason why he will never get re-elected.

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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #328 on: November 24, 2023, 05:49:23 pm »
Well, you did get a couple of things correct @sneakypete  Trump has no political future.

Nothing is more important than is ego and that is one reason why he will never get re-elected.

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Yeah,causen nothing is more important that a  humble President,right?
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #329 on: November 24, 2023, 05:51:59 pm »

Secondly,the "legacy" he dreams of is going into the history  books as "The President that saved America from being overran with  illegal aliens,and the President that saved America from socialism/communism."

I disagree.  I think the legacy he dreams of is being loved by as many people as possible, and he doesn't care which policies get him there.  If he thinks a bunch of new, big spending programs get him there, he'll do that.  If he thinks amnesty gets him there, he'll do that.  The same as he did in the run-up to the 2020 election.  Whatever he thinks will makes him the most popular, that's what he'll do.  The odds of him making tough but necessary decisions that hurt his short-term popularity is zero.

And we already knows he believes that his supporters would keep supporting him even if he shot someone on 5th avenue.   So the only place to go for him to become more loved by more people is to the left.

He stands for nothing but himself.
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #330 on: November 24, 2023, 05:53:05 pm »
@libertybele

Yeah,causen nothing is more important that a  humble President,right?

Gotta give you credit @sneakypete  for still trying to defend him.

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« Reply #331 on: November 24, 2023, 05:56:42 pm »
I disagree.  I think the legacy he dreams of is being loved by as many people as possible, and he doesn't care which policies get him there.  If he thinks a bunch of new, big spending programs get him there, he'll do that.  If he thinks amnesty gets him there, he'll do that.  The same as he did in the run-up to the 2020 election.  Whatever he thinks will makes him the most popular, that's what he'll do.

And we already knows he believes that his supporters would keep supporting him even if he shot someone on 5th avenue.   So the only place to go for him to become more loved by more people is to the left.

He stands for nothing but himself.

I agree with you.  He was rejected from being seated another term and I do believe he will do whatever it takes to make him more popular regardless if it's is good or not for the country.  Therein lies the problem -- he won't be seeking another term should he make it into the WH (which I believe is very doubtful) so he doesn't have to worry about accountability.

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« Reply #332 on: November 24, 2023, 06:06:34 pm »
@libertybele

Yeah,causen nothing is more important that a  humble President,right?
Reagan was a humble PRESIDENT and got things done, Trump was a loud mouth egotist and nothing he did remained five minutes after Biden was sworn in, so yeah humble is very important when in addition to being strong and building coalitions to pass actual laws to achieve lasting results and a real, positive legacy in the history books though I don't believe that that was ever a reason for what Reagan did unlike Brash Orange Bully....who I don't hate and never did but his mouth and his inability to shut it have made liking him pretty much impossible. You can go ahead and sling your poop now.

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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #333 on: November 24, 2023, 06:57:34 pm »
Reagan was a humble PRESIDENT

@GtHawk

BULL Bush! Reagan was an  actor that was ACTING humble.

There has never been such  a critter as a humble President,and there never will be such a critter.



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« Reply #334 on: November 24, 2023, 07:04:50 pm »
BULL Bush! Reagan was an  actor that was ACTING humble.

There has never been such  a critter as a humble President,and there never will be such a critter.

For the purpose of a public facing figure, a distinction without a difference.

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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #335 on: November 24, 2023, 07:14:21 pm »
@LMAO

If THAT pleases  you,you must have been as giddy as a schoolgirl with  Obomber,Bubba, and Biden "won" Presidential elections.
You are an intelligent man--at least as a rule, you have been in most matters, IMHO.

Kindly do yourself and the forum a favor and stop posting this because you aren't happy with "A", you must be ecstatcic with "B" false dichotomy bullshit. Help keep the forum IQ above 65. I've been reading down this thread and it is getting to look more like some Twitter feed. Just call each other poopy-heads and get it over with and put the thread out of our collective misery, already.

I'm looking at what's running for POTUS in '24, and to be perfectly honest, I'm not happy with any of them. THEY ALL SUCK, just one or two SUCKS LESS THAN THE OTHERS.

Sad thing about America's future.

If we survive, if we do as well with the candidates we have as we can, we will only elect those who suck the least.

That isn't much to vote FOR.
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #336 on: November 24, 2023, 07:20:31 pm »
You are an intelligent man--at least as a rule, you have been in most matters, IMHO.

Kindly do yourself and the forum a favor and stop posting this because you aren't happy with "A", you must be ecstatcic with "B" false dichotomy bullshit. Help keep the forum IQ above 65. I've been reading down this thread and it is getting to look more like some Twitter feed. Just call each other poopy-heads and get it over with and put the thread out of our collective misery, already.

I'm looking at what's running for POTUS in '24, and to be perfectly honest, I'm not happy with any of them. THEY ALL SUCK, just one or two SUCKS LESS THAN THE OTHERS.

Sad thing about America's future.

If we survive, if we do as well with the candidates we have as we can, we will only elect those who suck the least.

That isn't much to vote FOR.

The most sane post in this thread.

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« Reply #337 on: November 24, 2023, 07:28:36 pm »
The most sane post in this thread.

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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #338 on: November 24, 2023, 07:29:38 pm »
So then...WTH is your point?

Veto the legislation and get thrown out of office on your ass??

Why?   So that you can chisel the words "At least he stood on his principles..." on his gravesite?

Meanwhile The Left invariably advances

The Left invariably advances when a President posing as a Republican signs off on every single piece of Democrat legislation because he is afraid he may lose the next election.  So again I ask, why then vote for Trump if he's going to give the Democrats everything they ask for?
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #339 on: November 24, 2023, 07:42:04 pm »
You are an intelligent man--at least as a rule, you have been in most matters, IMHO.

Kindly do yourself and the forum a favor and stop posting this because you aren't happy with "A", you must be ecstatcic with "B" false dichotomy bullshit. Help keep the forum IQ above 65. I've been reading down this thread and it is getting to look more like some Twitter feed. Just call each other poopy-heads and get it over with and put the thread out of our collective misery, already.

I'm looking at what's running for POTUS in '24, and to be perfectly honest, I'm not happy with any of them. THEY ALL SUCK, just one or two SUCKS LESS THAN THE OTHERS.

Sad thing about America's future.

If we survive, if we do as well with the candidates we have as we can, we will only elect those who suck the least.

That isn't much to vote FOR.

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Not that Pete needs me to speak for him...BUT

The contrast between the two political parties has NEVER been more striking.

One is Socialist Marxist and want you dead. 

The other...not so much.    :shrug:
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #340 on: November 24, 2023, 07:46:21 pm »
@sneakypete

Not that Pete needs me to speak for him...BUT

The contrast between the two political parties has NEVER been more striking.

One is Socialist Marxist and want you dead. 

The other...not so much.    :shrug:

That is NOT TRUE. BOTH parties are hell bent for big government and globalism in a New World Order.

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« Reply #341 on: November 24, 2023, 07:55:39 pm »
You are an intelligent man--at least as a rule, you have been in most matters, IMHO.

Kindly do yourself and the forum a favor and stop posting this because you aren't happy with "A", you must be ecstatcic with "B" false dichotomy bullshit. Help keep the forum IQ above 65. I've been reading down this thread and it is getting to look more like some Twitter feed. Just call each other poopy-heads and get it over with and put the thread out of our collective misery, already.

I'm looking at what's running for POTUS in '24, and to be perfectly honest, I'm not happy with any of them. THEY ALL SUCK, just one or two SUCKS LESS THAN THE OTHERS.

Sad thing about America's future.

If we survive, if we do as well with the candidates we have as we can, we will only elect those who suck the least.

That isn't much to vote FOR.


@Smokin Joe

NOTHING would please me more than being enthusiastic about a Presidential candidate,but sadly,I have to agree with what you wrote,and in MY opinion,Trump sucks the least because ALL he really cares about is how he gets written up in the history books. That,plus the fact he is already insanely rich and has always been insanely rich,means he is the one candidate that can't be bought.

The FACT that he can ONLY serve ONE 4 year term is a bonus. It means he is the ONLY candidate  running that won't piss away his first term trying to make sure he will get elected for a second term.

Plus,he is a verbal "bomb  thrower",and there ARE some verbal bombs that need to be thrown in order to wake people up. We are on the verge of losing America as a free and independent nation,and the upcoming electing just MIGHT be the last chance we have to start setting things right again.

Assuming of course that Biden and his accomplices don't sell America outright to the highest bidder before the election even happens.

No,I do NOT "like" Trump,but I DO "like" him more than any of the other candidates. Once again,one reason I  support him is because he can only be President for ONE 4 year term,and then he is out of office forever. This means that unlike the others,he won't spend the first term (only term in his case) running for re-election.

All this means that Trump is the ONLY candidate running this time that I can vote for.

Some people don't understand this  because they SEEM to think that idolizing a candidate is required,but I disagree. I am NOT voting for a buddy,I am voting for a President.
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #342 on: November 24, 2023, 07:58:39 pm »
That is NOT TRUE. BOTH parties are hell bent for big government and globalism in a New World Order.

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« Reply #343 on: November 24, 2023, 08:00:15 pm »
The FACT that he can ONLY serve ONE 4 year term is a bonus. It means he is the ONLY candidate  running that won't piss away his first term trying to make sure he will get elected for a second term.

He had the opportunity to do that his first term.  Trump is simply not the man you make him out to be.  He signed off on every stinking piece of Democrat legislation that came his way.  I really don't give a shit what his reason was.  I don't want anyone like that in the White House.
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« Reply #344 on: November 24, 2023, 08:10:59 pm »
Hey, I'm actually seriously thinking of writing in that newly elected  president from Argentina in 2024 wink777

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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #345 on: November 24, 2023, 08:21:35 pm »
Hey, I'm actually seriously thinking of writing in that newly elected  president from Argentina in 2024 wink777

Go whole hog. Javier Milei/Gloria Alvarez. That's the ticket!
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« Reply #346 on: November 24, 2023, 09:42:42 pm »
After another 4 years of Trump or Biden, we will need a Milei
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« Reply #347 on: November 24, 2023, 09:48:36 pm »
I disagree.  I think the legacy he dreams of is being loved by as many people as possible, and he doesn't care which policies get him there.  If he thinks a bunch of new, big spending programs get him there, he'll do that.  If he thinks amnesty gets him there, he'll do that.  The same as he did in the run-up to the 2020 election.  Whatever he thinks will makes him the most popular, that's what he'll do.  The odds of him making tough but necessary decisions that hurt his short-term popularity is zero.



Trump likes monuments to himself. Look at Trump Towers as an example. There's a very good chance that "caring about how he's written about in the history books" would involve him proposing a new government program we can ill afford, like the LBJ did with the Great Society or Obama did with Obamacare. Presidents, like Calvin Coolidge, did boring things like put us on sound fiscal footing and grew the economy. But FDR, he's the one with the New Deal and SS. How many people do you think even know who Coolidge was?

And it's not hard to believe that his supporters will support what he's proposing and threaten to primary any Republicans who oppose him
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #348 on: November 25, 2023, 04:02:20 am »
Well, maybe 15 minute cities will be easier to get a fence around.

I have long contended the wall will only be completed when it is time for them to keep us in.

I ain't going.
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Re: Poll: DeSantis Plummets to Single Digits, Third Place in Texas GOP Primary
« Reply #349 on: November 25, 2023, 09:35:34 am »
@sneakypete

Not that Pete needs me to speak for him...BUT

The contrast between the two political parties has NEVER been more striking.

One is Socialist Marxist and want you dead. 

The other...not so much.    :shrug:
And yet your guy's campaign is openly running to sabotage "the other," leaving the Socialist Marxist ones with total hegemony, just like the state you left.
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