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[Right_in_Virginia]

This was a BIG miscalculation by Youngkin.  He suppressed his own base and many Independents.   And now instead of catapulting it as he hoped, Glenn's national political career ends with this mistake.

The Lt. Governor of Virginia publicly rejected Trump last November, saying it’s time to “move on” as a party Glenn Youngkin has completely distanced himself from Trump. The Virginia Republicans’ shellacking yesterday proved Donald Trump is not the issue. 

https://twitter.com/_johnnymaga/status/1722337505305886915

[jmyrlefuller]

Tomi Lahren
@TomiLahren
If republicans don’t get abortion messaging right or refuse to move to the center on that issue, next November will be a red wedding, not a red wave.

Shriek all you want about pro-life and that’s fine, but strict abortion ban policies will lose elections. That’s the cold hard truth.

Says the 31-year-old who is unmarried with zero children. She's the problem.

[corbe]

   Ronna blaming it on weed and abortion is typical for a Low Info Trumper.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Some of us did warn you, Glenn ----- you need Trump in 2023, run for POTUS in 2028.

Nick Sortor
@nicksortor

JUST IN: Virginia GOP Gov. Glenn Youngkin has confirmed he will NOT be running for President in 2024, according to NBC

This comes after Republicans in Virginia suffered MASSIVE losses yesterday, with the GOP-controlled House of Delegates flipping to Democrat control

1:46 PM · Nov 8, 2023

[Maj. Bill Martin]

The Virginia Republicans’ shellacking yesterday proved Donald Trump is not the issue.

No, it doesn't prove that at all because Youngkin himself was not on the ballot. The question to ask is whether the Republicans running for those seats in the Virginia Assembly distance themselves from Trump, or not.

[jmyrlefuller]

Some of us did warn you, Glenn ----- you need Trump in 2023, run for POTUS in 2028.

Unless you know something you're not sharing with us @jmyrlefuller that is anatomically impossible.

[mystery-ak]

Donald Trump: Daniel Cameron Lost Because ‘He Couldn’t Alleviate the Stench of Mitch McConnell’

Donald Trump largely blamed Republican Daniel Cameron’s gubernatorial loss in Kentucky to the attorney general’s ties to Mitch McConnell.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/11/08/donald-trump-daniel-cameron-lost-because-he-couldnt-alleviate-stench-mitch-mcconnell/

[Maj. Bill Martin]

This right here:


Justin Stapley
@JustinWStapley
The Republican Party party isn't dead. But as a national brand, it is on life support. Its share of support among voters across the country has shrunk every election cycle for nearly a decade. Even when all electoral factors are pointing toward Republican success, voters are crawling over broken glass to vote for increasingly radicalized Democrats. And we all know who's to blame, no matter how much Republican voters want to deny it.

Trump and Trumpism are not only among the most toxic political brands in American history, but the Republican Party under his control has grown hostile to good candidates, to measured dialogue, and to simple tests of sanity and logic. It has opened wide the gate to literally insane and unhinged people, who dabble in conspiracy, anti-semitism, election denialism, and political kookery.

In today's GOP, if you have expertise, are well-learned, have deep intellectual roots, and have a past that demonstrates you aren't batshit crazy, your political portfolio is a liability, not a strength. But you can say and do whatever you want so long as you hold the Trumpian line. You will be defended.

This isn't sustainable, and we can see the inevitable results. Americans aren't having it. They're done. When it comes to Trump, Republicans now have only one choice: move on or die.
8:43 AM · Nov 8, 2023
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[Polly Ticks]

Tomi Lahren
@TomiLahren
If republicans don’t get abortion messaging right or refuse to move to the center on that issue, next November will be a red wedding, not a red wave.

Shriek all you want about pro-life and that’s fine, but strict abortion ban policies will lose elections. That’s the cold hard truth.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No, it doesn't prove that at all because Youngkin himself was not on the ballot. The question to ask is whether the Republicans running for those seats in the Virginia Assembly distance themselves from Trump, or not.

Youngkin was counting on a vastly different outcome yesterday to position himself for a vastly different announcement.  He blew it big time with the voters he needed most when he jettisoned Donald Trump.  This is on Youngkin, he was the one with the megaphone.  Dozens of focus groups bear this out.

It brings me no joy to watch Youngkin fail so abysmally ---- I like the guy and thought he could have had ---- with a little seasoning --- a national political future.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Are you unaware that Israel has among the most liberal abortion policies on the planet?

[berdie]

Donald Trump: Daniel Cameron Lost Because ‘He Couldn’t Alleviate the Stench of Mitch McConnell’

Donald Trump largely blamed Republican Daniel Cameron’s gubernatorial loss in Kentucky to the attorney general’s ties to Mitch McConnell.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/11/08/donald-trump-daniel-cameron-lost-because-he-couldnt-alleviate-stench-mitch-mcconnell/

Maybe I' misremembering, but didn't Trump endorse McConnell in his last election?

[corbe]

  Red Waves don't seem to materialize even in OFF YEAR Elections anymore, since 2018 and Ronna replaced Reise, not that they did before.

   *   He has Endorsed all the Losers, every fnk one of them, the last 7 years.   

[Polly Ticks]

Are you unaware that Israel has among the most liberal abortion policies on the planet?

No.  Are you unaware of the point of the edit?

Hint: It wasn't about Israel.   

[libertybele]

Tomi Lahren
@TomiLahren
If republicans don’t get abortion messaging right or refuse to move to the center on that issue, next November will be a red wedding, not a red wave.

Shriek all you want about pro-life and that’s fine, but strict abortion ban policies will lose elections. That’s the cold hard truth.

So an infant's life has become strictly political??  Moving to the center on any issue is exactly why the GOP is losing.  Leaning to the right is what's needed. Conservatism works; liberalism, well, look around you.  It. Is. Not. Working., unless you like rising prices, crime and government control.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No.  Are you unaware of the point of the edit?

Hint: It wasn't about Israel.   

Oh, okay. Then what's the point of Netanyahu being pro-life?

[Polly Ticks]

Oh, okay. Then what's the point of Netanyahu being pro-life?

Ok, show of hands.  Who else doesn't understand?

*Looking around*  Just RIV?  Yeah, that's what I figured.

[Polly Ticks]

So an infant's life has become strictly political??  Moving to the center on any issue is exactly why the GOP is losing.  Leaning to the right is what's needed. Conservatism works; liberalism, well, look around you.  It. Is. Not. Working., unless you like rising prices, crime and government control.

Right?  Either it's ok to kill babies, or it isn't.  Really not a lot of wiggle room there in an honest person's morals.

[Fishrrman]

Mystery posted in #22:
"It doesn't look good  for Youngkin gaining the Senate...and might lose the House"

Coming into the thread late.

Mr. Youngkin was a "one election wonder", and he'd ought to be thinking of what to do come January 2025...

[Right_in_Virginia]

Ok, show of hands.  Who else doesn't understand?

*Looking around*  Just RIV?  Yeah, that's what I figured.

Instead of insulting me, why not just explain what I'm missing?  It should be easy for you to do.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Robert Barnes
@barnes_law

Many voters still see the @GOP as the party of Bush, McCain & Romney because most of its candidates, political class, and press are a lot more like Bush than Trump. This is their problem winning elections: too much like the party of Bush.


5:57 PM · Nov 8, 2023

[Fishrrman]

The loss in Ohio should provide a very important lesson to Republicans everywhere.
Will they finally learn it?

Scott in VA "gets it" in reply 74 above:
"Republicans need to come to grips with the undeniable fact that abortion is wildly popular - almost sacramental - in this country, and the overturning of Roe v. Wade will put them in the political wilderness for quite some time.  Crime, the border, inflation, etc. are all secondary."

So explain to me, Comrade Briefers (as my avatar says, I'm dumb):
How was overturning Roe v Wade supposed to change things to the right's favor?
Yes, the Constitution says nothing about abortion, and Roe was "a reach" by the Supreme Court.

But... was "throwing the issue back to the states" the right way to go?
Hmmm... before Dobbs many (perhaps some in this forum) would have said, "take this out of the courts and let the people decide..."

Well, that's just what happened.
Dobbs took it "out of the courts",
And... "the people" ARE "deciding".

I've posted in this forum for years (on Roe), to be careful as to what one wishes for -- for one might get just that.

A Fishrrman 100% fearless™ prediction for the future:
Watch for more ballot initiatives on this in 2024, in any or perhaps ALL the states where such initiatives are possible.

The left will get such initiatives onto the ballots, not necessarily so much to effect changes in existing laws, but rather to draw young leftist females to the polls -- who will then provide other votes as needed.

Like the old sayin' goes:
"Power to the people!"

That's just what Dobbs did.
It "gave the power back" to 'em.

"Abortion" will live on as a moral issue, but as a political one, it should be considered dead and buried.

Again... will the Republicans learn their lesson?

(Sorry if you didn't like this post...)

[jmyrlefuller]

Youngkin was counting on a vastly different outcome yesterday to position himself for a vastly different announcement.  He blew it big time with the voters he needed most when he jettisoned Donald Trump.  This is on Youngkin, he was the one with the megaphone.  Dozens of focus groups bear this out.

It brings me no joy to watch Youngkin fail so abysmally ---- I like the guy and thought he could have had ---- with a little seasoning --- a national political future.

Any proof of that that didn't come from Laura Loomer?

[Fishrrman]

RinVa wrote (in reply to another poster):
"Have you considered the surrogacy route?"

That's the first thing that came to my mind, as well.
Might become "the only option left"...

[Smokin Joe]

Trump is pulling down the whole party into a pool of shit.

At the very least, his endorsement seems a dog whistle to the Dems to pile on money and crank up the fraud machine if the money doesn't work.