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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #407 on: October 11, 2023, 08:07:30 pm »
How does Israel simultaneously fight an invasion on 3 FRONTS...at the same time keeping one eye on Iran's offensive capabilities (missile-wise)?? :shrug:

They should have a plan for this before now. 

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« Reply #408 on: October 11, 2023, 08:15:58 pm »
They should have a plan for this before now.

Not at all up-to-speed on Gaza OR the Golan Heights.

Didn't even realize there were about 2M people inside Gaza.

How the hell are you going to root out HAMAS from Gaza except with land troops.

Not going to work when being attacked from the North and Northeast.  You'll have to rely on your air power/superiority.

I recall destroying the Egyptian Air Force on the ground is why it was a Six-Day War back in 1967
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #409 on: October 11, 2023, 08:19:56 pm »

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1712239729062686770

@Wingnut beat me to it. The question that does need to be answered is why UN "workers" were hanging out with Hamas terrorists and probably in a building used by Hamas.
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« Reply #410 on: October 11, 2023, 08:22:34 pm »
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #411 on: October 11, 2023, 08:25:54 pm »
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Israel is not Ukraine.

The war in Ukraine is an endless war. Ukraine will never defeat Russia — no matter how much money or how many weapons we give them. There is no clear plan for winning the war. Ukraine is profoundly corrupt, and we have no idea where the money goes and who is siphoning it off. To top it all off, Ukraine’s war goals include seizing regions like Crimea, regions that are ethnically Russian, speak Russian, and want to be part of Russia.

The war with Hamas is not an endless war. The objective is clear: Destroy Hamas and install a government in Gaza that doesn't embrace genocide as a founding principle.

There are a thousand other reasons why the two are different: Israel is America's #1 ally in the Middle East. Israel is the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity. Israel protects the Holy Land. Israel is a real democracy and it shares critical intelligence with the US.

I'm not advocating for direct US involvement, but strategically this much is clear: Israel can win.


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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #412 on: October 11, 2023, 08:27:15 pm »
@Wingnut beat me to it. The question that does need to be answered is why UN "workers" were hanging out with Hamas terrorists and probably in a building used by Hamas.
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Complicit in the attacks.  I'm guessing they were advisers from the UN.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #413 on: October 11, 2023, 08:36:42 pm »
They should have a plan for this before now.

They do.  Probably gamed it a ton of times, although the details of the actual situation on the ground aren't going to be identical to the plans.  What they'll do is have enough forces in the north to hold the border, but concentrate on clearing Gaza and Hamas.  When that threat is eliminated, those forces will head north if necessary.

I don't have any inside information, but I do have some years of planning and can read maps.  That's the obvious strategic move, and it seems to be how their forces are being concentrated.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #414 on: October 11, 2023, 08:36:47 pm »
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Complicit in the attacks.  I'm guessing they were advisers from the UN.
Absolutely. They could have helped Hamas plan and coordinate the massacre.
If they were hanging out with Hamas, then they become part of the battlefield.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #416 on: October 11, 2023, 08:42:23 pm »
@Wingnut beat me to it. The question that does need to be answered is why UN "workers" were hanging out with Hamas terrorists and probably in a building used by Hamas.

hmmm....as my gut continues to tell me .... the UN will assist with the downfall of the U.S.

....so exactly why were the UN workers hanging out with Hamas terrorists????

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« Reply #417 on: October 11, 2023, 09:01:40 pm »
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« Reply #418 on: October 11, 2023, 09:04:37 pm »
That pockmarked old hag disgusts me.

The fact that she is Jewish makes her question even more disgusting.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #419 on: October 11, 2023, 09:08:49 pm »
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The Bataan Amphibious-Ready Group consisting of the USS Bataan (LHD-5), USS Mesa Verde (LPD-19), USS Carter Hall (LSD-50), and also roughly 3,000 Marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit are right now off the Coast of Bahrain and heading in the direction of the Arabian Sea

In other words, they are retreating away from Hamas HQ in Qatar, and retreating away from Iran.
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« Reply #420 on: October 11, 2023, 09:16:11 pm »
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During a roundtable with Jewish leaders, U.S. President Joe Biden reportedly says the White House verified reports of children being beheaded by Hamas terrorists in Kibbutz Kfar Aza. “I didn’t believe I would ever see a picture of a terrorist beheading children. We verified it.”

The administration is "clarifying" Biden's statement::


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« Reply #421 on: October 11, 2023, 09:20:06 pm »
Some Crawdad moves ... insincere of course, but they understand money is king and funds their cause.

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We extend our prayers to members of the entire Harvard community affected by the tragedies unfolding abroad.  In accordance with our Prophetic tradition, we stand in solidarity with all innocent lives that have been lost, and we grieve with the community.  As violence continues, the Harvard Islamic Society stands firmly with the civilian victims . . .[/i]

Three things here.  First, "tragedies unfolding" refers to the actions of the IDF, not to what Hamas already did.  Second, the term "all innocent lives" does not apply to Israelis.  In their eyes, Israelis are never innocent.  And third, "as violence continues" and "civilian victims" is a statement directed solely at the IDF since they are the lone perpetrators of violence against Gaza.  There is nothing at all in their statement that calls out Hamas for instigating this conflict.  They have chosen a side that will take them to eternal damnation.
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« Reply #423 on: October 11, 2023, 09:31:21 pm »
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This is not Gaza.

This is not the West Bank.

This is Dearborn Michigan tonight.

An entire theater.

Cheering on an organized terrorist group.

If an Israeli jet flew over and dropped some JDAMs on that target killing everyone, I would pay them back for the ordinance and fuel.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 3...Israel At War...
« Reply #424 on: October 11, 2023, 09:32:01 pm »
"At first we were ecstatic": Gaza's FAFO moment and Iran's strategic miscalculation

Hot Air by Ed Morrissey  October 10, 2023

I bet they were. In fact, we hardly need the Gazan testimony today to know that they fully supported Hamas’ launch of war against Israeli civilians in mass attacks around Gaza’s borderlands. In video after video promulgated by the Gazans and Hamas terrorists themselves, we saw them dancing in the streets as they dragged bodies and hostages into Gaza from Israel, and mocking and terrorizing children hostages as part of their celebration.


As Haaretz reports today, though, it has begun to dawn on Gazans that they seriously miscalculated how Israel and its allies would respond to this war. “At first we were ecstatic,” one Gazan tells their reporter, celebrating it as a “historic day.” Now they are finding out just how historic it might be, as it might send Palestinian Gaza into the history books:

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So why should anyone object when Israel responds by defeating and subjugating Gaza in the barbaric war their government launched and they cheered?

What becomes clear in this piece from the far-Left Haaretz is the dawning realization that Gazans made a fatal miscalculation by launching this war. They cheered when Hamas terrorists dragged hostages back because they assumed that the Israelis would play by the old rules: some retaliatory attacks and then generous terms for hostage swaps. They likely assumed that Israel’s allies in the West would pressure them, as usual, to use only “proportional” force in precision-targeted strikes.

Instead, the attacks forced Israel to confront a hard reality: there is no peaceful coexistence with Hamas or any other Iranian proxy on its borders. Having tolerated the missile attacks for eighteen years, Israel had hardened its defenses in the calculation that settling the Gaza question would be far more costly than simply isolating it and controlling its borders to keep arms from getting in. This Hamas attack exposed the folly of that approach, as well as the miscalculation of containment of Iran’s ambition to annihilate Israel.


They now have no choice but to uproot and destroy Hamas’ footprint in Gaza and ensure it never returns — and that likely means the end of Gaza as a Palestinian settlement. That should please Egypt, even if they won’t admit it, as Hamas was a malevolent branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the enemy of the al-Sisi regime there. It would remove the Palestinian issue from their border and make it into a West Bank/Jordan problem. Whatever other issues this creates for al-Sisi, removing that headache and putting Israel in control of Gaza may well be worth it.

More: https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/10/10/at-first-we-were-ecstatic-gazas-fafo-moment-and-irans-strategic-miscalculation-n583689