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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #375 on: October 04, 2023, 12:48:43 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on October 03, 2023, 11:22:52 pm
Please, stop making excuses for the status quo Republicans who always serve as assistant democrats.  Opposition to the Uniparty is desperately needed.  It won't be easy and it won't be pretty, but it is the key to this nation's survival.

This is hilarious coming from you.  Let me know if your boy Trump ever decides to switch gears and oppose the Uniparty.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #376 on: October 04, 2023, 12:50:43 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 03, 2023, 11:33:15 pm
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The press wants you to think the only story in Washington is a fight amongst Republicans. But over the past 10 days:

- The Democrat chair of the foreign affairs committee was charged with taking bribes from a foreign country
- The DC attorney general has sent subpoenas to Democrat dark money giant Arabella Advisors over possible illegal activity
- A House Democrat stalled a house proceeding by pulling a fire alarm, a felony.
- Biden’s envoy to Iran was outed as an Iranian spy
- Gavin Newsom appointed a Marylander to be California’s senator
- Hunter Biden pleaded not guilty to a felony gun charge
- Hunter was also caught listing his dad’s home address as the beneficiary on a wire transfer from Communist China.
- A Democrat House member was carjacked thanks to an explosion of predatory criminal behavior sparked by Democrats' pro-crime policies.

Oh, and Joe Biden is still an utter disaster of a president, too.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #377 on: October 04, 2023, 12:53:34 am »
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The MAGA leader gave us Kevin McCarthy.  Enough already with the Biden talking points.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #378 on: October 04, 2023, 12:54:38 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on October 03, 2023, 11:55:00 pm
Guess folks are running out of things to say about this, but did the fools not learn anything from throwing this against the wall in January?   :laugh:

The biggest lesson learned is that back in January the Conservatives were right.  And Trump was wrong.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #379 on: October 04, 2023, 01:07:08 am »
   He's always Wrong, in his hiring, makes it easier to say "You're Fired".


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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #380 on: October 04, 2023, 01:11:34 am »
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #381 on: October 04, 2023, 01:35:34 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on October 04, 2023, 12:46:34 am
These dozen or so members aren't doing it to be rewarded by voters.  They are doing it to save America.  It is the print-and-spend side that operates solely on keeping their jobs.


BULLSH*T
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #382 on: October 04, 2023, 01:45:23 am »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on October 04, 2023, 01:35:34 am

BULLSH*T

Right.  They're not going to be able to "save America" with a crummy 4 vote margin and a very divided House GOP caucus, and when the Democrats control the Senate and Presidency.

There's the "if we all just stick together..." fantasy, but that ignores that you have several dozen House GOP members who will oppose any lengthy shutdown.  That means you cannot use the shutdown as a weapon because the other side knows you can't make it stick.

I think that's the point of logical disconnect.  Just a reluctance to acknowledge and address a clearly fatal flaw.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #383 on: October 04, 2023, 01:54:26 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on October 04, 2023, 01:45:23 am
Right.  They're not going to be able to "save America" with a crummy 4 vote margin and a very divided House GOP caucus, and when the Democrats control the Senate and Presidency.

Intent and ability are two separate things.  With McCarthy in there, America loses.  With McCarthy gone, we'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #384 on: October 04, 2023, 01:56:38 am »
This aged well:

Quote from: Hoodat on January 07, 2023, 12:35:11 am
If we agree, then it comes down to a matter of probability.  What is the likelihood that McCarthy will do this?

Without the guarantees that Conservatives have been pushing for here, I put the likelihood of McCarthy not getting separate appropriations bills passed before the deadline at 100%.  Which is why I believe it is important to push for those guarantees.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #385 on: October 04, 2023, 02:08:23 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on October 04, 2023, 12:15:31 am
Yup. And those 30 are not going to vote for long shutdowns.  Probably won't vote for even a short one at this point, and they'd likely reject even Chip Roy's bill if it was brought up again.  They have no reason at this point to try to compromise with the hardliners any more.

But that's a reality some folks just don't want to acknowledge.  They live in a fantasy work where the majority of voters are secretly conservative and will vote out anyone who isn't as soon as they are "exposed".
The other reality is that in one generation, our national debt has risen nearly sevenfold with no relief in sight. That cannot be sustained, and only a hard shutdown with a firm cap on the debt ceiling, coupled with—unfortunately—printing money to cover the interest on existing debt can solve this runaway spending train.

It's a reality that probably zero people in Congress are actually willing to address, nor are probably 95% of Americans who are dependent on this completely unsustainable way of life and envy other countries that are even worse in their largesse.

This is the failure of democracy. 
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #386 on: October 04, 2023, 02:36:05 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 03, 2023, 11:50:39 pm
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 Speaker Emeritus, keep everything the same, expel the eight from the caucus, recruit primary challengers to them all. Be a party that isn’t controlled by its knuckleheads.

This is one of the great things that come out of tough times. You learn who wants to fight and who wants to surrender.

Just one more pundit not to listen to.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #387 on: October 04, 2023, 02:37:39 am »
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At least they are willing to fight to save the Republic.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #388 on: October 04, 2023, 02:38:29 am »
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Matt Gaetz may have lost a lot of friends in the halls of Congress today, but he gained more respect from the American voters.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #389 on: October 04, 2023, 02:47:15 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on October 04, 2023, 12:37:44 am
Not true.  There are always options.  Chief among them was the option for Kevin McCarthy to keep his word.  He didn't.  This is 100% on him.

What it all boils down to.

McCarthy was a willing tool for the Establishment Loyalists.

Where were the subpoena's for all the investigations that were going to start day one?

Where were the concessions extracted from the debt ceiling  deal.

Where was the support for requiring appropriation bills to be done and sent to the Senate?

McCarthy is a man who was willing to do anything to reach a position he was never capable of leading.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #390 on: October 04, 2023, 02:53:22 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on October 04, 2023, 01:45:23 am
Right.  They're not going to be able to "save America" with a crummy 4 vote margin and a very divided House GOP caucus, and when the Democrats control the Senate and Presidency.

There's the "if we all just stick together..." fantasy, but that ignores that you have several dozen House GOP members who will oppose any lengthy shutdown.  That means you cannot use the shutdown as a weapon because the other side knows you can't make it stick.

I think that's the point of logical disconnect.  Just a reluctance to acknowledge and address a clearly fatal flaw.

You must be a lawyer, or have been one.

Lawyers are the last people you bring into a negotiation and when you do it's with instructions to cross the "T's" and dot the "I's" only.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #391 on: October 04, 2023, 03:04:37 am »
Quote from: bilo on October 04, 2023, 02:53:22 am
You must be a lawyer, or have been one.

Lawyers are the last people you bring into a negotiation and when you do it's with instructions to cross the "T's" and dot the "I's" only.

Is that so?  Interesting.  I guess I should defer to your vast experience.

So how would you make the couple of dozen GOP moderates agree to a long-term holdout when it's not what their constituents want?
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #392 on: October 04, 2023, 03:24:39 am »
If only Trump could be defeated and impeached again, and the entire government given over to the Democrats and Biden so America could survive.  You know, much like we have it now.  Marching lock-stepping stooges insist this is the way, do what we have been doing and change nothing.  Then bawl about how bad everything is, but this is how change will be done, by changing nothing-a one party socialist governing!  Then blame the failure on capitalism!  RegARDLESS OF IT BEING SOCIALIST IN OUR MIDST WHO MADE THE CHANGES THAT GOT US TO WHERE WE NOW ARE AT.  George Soros CZAR GOVERNMENT.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #393 on: October 04, 2023, 04:22:41 am »
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #394 on: October 04, 2023, 05:03:49 am »
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Interim Speaker Patrick McHenry agressively slams the gavel as he and 200+ other Republicans fume over Kevin McCarthy’s ousting.

Where was this anger as millions of migrants poured over the southern border?

Where was this anger as US debt rises over $33T?

Where was this anger when the FBI rounded up Trump supporters and threw them in prison?

Where is this anger as the “justice” system tries to take out Biden’s top opponent in 2024?

They sit back and do nothing as our country burns but fume when their buddy loses his Speaker role.


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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #395 on: October 04, 2023, 05:09:47 am »
This tweet from McCarthy to Gaetz didn't age well:


https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/status/1708988205603627286
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #396 on: October 04, 2023, 05:12:03 am »
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #397 on: October 04, 2023, 09:31:13 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on October 04, 2023, 12:31:16 am
Uh, no.  Trump was already trashing DeSantis long before he declared his candidacy.  This right here is the downside of spitting out the first emotional thought that pops in your head without considering whether or not it is true.


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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #398 on: October 04, 2023, 10:00:56 am »
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #399 on: October 04, 2023, 10:02:54 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on October 04, 2023, 03:04:37 am
Is that so?  Interesting.  I guess I should defer to your vast experience.

So how would you make the couple of dozen GOP moderates agree to a long-term holdout when it's not what their constituents want?

 :mauslaff:

Yeah, that's their concern..  "what their constituents want..."  Yeah, that's the ticket....



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