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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2023, 04:10:12 pm »
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Trumpism has much more in common with the French Revolution than the American.

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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2023, 01:57:14 pm »
An important question is many circumstances is to ask "Who stands to benefit the most?"

Who stood to benefit the most from January 6th?  Trump
No, Actually, Trump did not stand to benefit from  riot on 1/6.

That just gave the Democrats the optics and an incident by which they could make examples of people to deter any future dissent, to try to put fear in the populace, and one more thing to go after Trump (and a host of others) with.

There is no foreseeable way the incident as it unfolded could have befitted Trump.

After so many courts summarily dismissed the cases brought without even examining evidence in any of them, the writing was on the wall.

There are indications that what went down on 16 was what the Democrats wanted, that security was lessened instead of reinforced, that someone opened the doors, that agents provocateur were in the crowd, and early on there was mention of ANTIFA infiltrators, wearing their Trump Gear Backward so they would know who was who (seven busloads of them).

So, Who DID benefit? Not Trump, Not Ashely Babbit, nor the other lady who was killed, but the Democrats sure came out of the incident with a pile of talking points and weapons for the weaponized DOJ to wield.
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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2023, 01:58:51 pm »
What most people forget is that the French Revolution led to dictatorship.

The French Revolution was an example of mob rule that the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid in America.
True enough. The Guillotine Road show was a prime example.
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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2023, 02:13:24 pm »
January 6th was the opening chapter in a very long saga and those who imagine themselves winners already are going to be in for many surprises before the final chapter is written.
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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2023, 06:56:18 pm »
No, Actually, Trump did not stand to benefit from  riot on 1/6.

The question isn't really who ended up benefitting in the end.  The question is who believed ahead of time that they were going to benefit.

I think it's pretty clear that Trump believed having a massive rally and then a march on the Capitol would benefit him by pressuring Pence to delay the count.  Don't think he minded some rioting either.  I think he was fine with what was happening from the time the first barriers were breached at about 1:00 p.m. until at or shortly before he sent out a tweet at 2:38 asking people to stay peaceful.


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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2023, 12:25:22 am »
What most people forget is that the French Revolution led to dictatorship.

The French Revolution was an example of mob rule that the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid in America.

AND It was the ignoble beginnings of what we now call socialist/communist thought.


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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2023, 01:19:55 am »
That is NOT the result of those actions! THAT is the result of GROSS prosecutorial misconduct in Washington D.C.

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You  are wasting your time trying to talk sense to the senseless.

ALL you  have to do is mention Rude Orange Man,and they start taking dumps in their depends.
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Re: A French Revolution in America?
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2023, 01:21:51 am »
What most people forget is that the French Revolution led to dictatorship.

The French Revolution was an example of mob rule that the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid in America.

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Kinda like the Biden/RINO Revolution is leading  to a Communist dictatorship.
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