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An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
« on: August 30, 2023, 06:31:37 pm »



An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”

LOL!  Even Vivek Ramaswamy thinks all truth should be forthcoming..."we can handle it!"

What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2023, 06:39:40 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 30, 2023, 06:31:37 pm
An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”

LOL!  Even Vivek Ramaswamy thinks all truth should be forthcoming..."we can handle it!"

What do you think?


Soft disclosure is already happening... Ongoing.

Through long centuries, people have come from the sky offering technology for women...
It never works out well. Predictably, you won't like where this goes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2023, 07:04:41 pm »
Musk says there is no evidence of extraterrestrials.  My guess is he'd know due to his association with space travel.


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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2023, 07:06:54 pm »
   They lock their doors and roll up their windows when they drive by our corner of the Solar System.   :whistle:
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2023, 07:08:40 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2023, 07:04:41 pm
Musk says there is no evidence of extraterrestrials.  My guess is he'd know due to his association with space travel.

In this vast universe I think it is inevitable that there is another life form.  Perhaps far more intelligent.

Perhaps they are sitting back watching us destroy ourselves and figure we may need some sort of intervention -- but that could possibly mean a complete take over.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2023, 07:09:08 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2023, 07:04:41 pm
Musk says there is no evidence of extraterrestrials.  My guess is he'd know due to his association with space travel.

That's not true. Evidence abounds, all through history... Though I do believe it to be extra-dimensional - extra-terrestrial in that sense.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2023, 07:09:42 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 30, 2023, 06:39:40 pm

Soft disclosure is already happening... Ongoing.

Through long centuries, people have come from the sky offering technology for women...
It never works out well. Predictably, you won't like where this goes.
Note the shift in movie content, from either alien demands (Klaatu barada nikto), How to Serve Man, Childhood's End, and kill 'em all, to cooperative efforts with some, from Star Trek to Babylon 5 to virtually any show, most recently the idea that there are good aliens and bad aliens (Star Wars).

Any time a technologically superior species wants to share its tech, remember, there ain't no free lunch. At best, they see some personal benefit in that friendship, at worst, it is a means to exploit  or destroy.

Any place a being shows up that it wasn't born, it's an 'alien', and that includes us.

But the number of UFO/conspiracy/aliens among us shows out there seems to have proliferated stunningly of late.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2023, 07:13:09 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 30, 2023, 07:09:42 pm
But the number of UFO/conspiracy/aliens among us shows out there seems to have proliferated stunningly of late.

Along with the gov citing recent tic-tac events, admitting it is something... else.  :whistle:
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2023, 07:13:59 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 30, 2023, 07:09:08 pm
That's not true. Evidence abounds, all through history... Though I do believe it to be extra-dimensional - extra-terrestrial in that sense.

What evidence?  Show me one proven example of an ET....  And not  that bogus Alien Autopsy

Prove one iota of this being true.    I am sure there are some examples of some 100's, 100's, and millions of light years away, but under our nose?   :silly:
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2023, 07:17:07 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 30, 2023, 07:09:42 pm
Note the shift in movie content, from either alien demands (Klaatu barada nikto), How to Serve Man, Childhood's End, and kill 'em all, to cooperative efforts with some, from Star Trek to Babylon 5 to virtually any show, most recently the idea that there are good aliens and bad aliens (Star Wars).

Any time a technologically superior species wants to share its tech, remember, there ain't no free lunch. At best, they see some personal benefit in that friendship, at worst, it is a means to exploit  or destroy.

Any place a being shows up that it wasn't born, it's an 'alien', and that includes us.

But the number of UFO/conspiracy/aliens among us shows out there seems to have proliferated stunningly of late.

And still, there still isn't an iron clad example of a live or dead ET.  Hell, I might be wrong, but until these so called little green or gray men make an appearance, it is still speculation, and I am going to be skeptical.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2023, 07:27:17 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2023, 07:17:07 pm
And still, there still isn't an iron clad example of a live or dead ET.  Hell, I might be wrong, but until these so called little green or gray men make an appearance, it is still speculation, and I am going to be skeptical.
As am I. I'm not discounting the possibility, but I have yet to be convinced. In the meantime, while keeping an open mind to the possibility it could be real, it makes for a lot of good (and some horribly bad) entertainment.

It also poses the question, that if humans ever become a true spacefaring race, traveling to galaxies far far away, or at least even around our own galaxy, wouldn't we be the aliens?
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2023, 07:31:15 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2023, 07:13:59 pm
What evidence?  Show me one proven example of an ET....  And not  that bogus Alien Autopsy

Prove one iota of this being true.    I am sure there are some examples of some 100's, 100's, and millions of light years away, but under our nose?   :silly:

An example: the 'Gray Brothers' were prevalent just prior to Medieval times... Little gray people who went about in flying machines, capturing women and children...

What does that sound like?
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2023, 07:33:31 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 30, 2023, 07:31:15 pm
An example: the 'Gray Brothers' were prevalent just prior to Medieval times... Little gray people who went about in flying machines, capturing women and children...

What does that sound like?

Maybe An ergot induced hallucination.  Kind of like the early 1690's with Salem witches.

Interesting story, but hardly proof.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2023, 08:00:02 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 30, 2023, 07:09:08 pm
That's not true. Evidence abounds, all through history... Though I do believe it to be extra-dimensional - extra-terrestrial in that sense.

Maybe they should be using the term "subterrestrial"??   :shrug:
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2023, 08:03:11 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2023, 07:13:59 pm
What evidence?  Show me one proven example of an ET....  And not  that bogus Alien Autopsy

Prove one iota of this being true.    I am sure there are some examples of some 100's, 100's, and millions of light years away, but under our nose?   :silly:

Didn't Jackie Gleason witness alien bodies at the invitation of Ronald Reagan?  Or, was it Dwight Eisenhower?

Some say this indirectly led to the assassination of Marilyn Monroe.
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2023, 08:09:55 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 30, 2023, 08:03:11 pm
Didn't Jackie Gleason witness alien bodies at the invitation of Ronald Reagan?  Or, was it Dwight Eisenhower?

Some say this indirectly led to the assassination of Marilyn Monroe.



lol.... :beer:
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2023, 08:10:51 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2023, 08:55:17 pm »
WHO BUILT GÖBEKLI TEPE?  ~  Anunnaki Ancient Mystery

In this video we explore the mysteries of Göbekli Tepe, the climatic anomaly of the Younger Dryas, and the intriguing myths the Anunnaki. This video promises to take you on a journey through time, challenging conventional beliefs and unveiling connections that might just reshape our understanding of early human civilization.

Located in the heart of modern-day Turkey, Göbekli Tepe stands as a testament to human ingenuity and spiritual pursuit. Translating to "Potbellied Hill", this archaeological marvel dates back to an astounding 10,000 BCE, making it the world's oldest known human-made worship site. Its towering T-shaped limestone pillars, meticulously arranged in circular patterns and adorned with intricate carvings, have baffled historians and archaeologists alike. How did hunter-gatherers, without advanced tools or social structures, construct such a monumental site? And more importantly, why?


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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2023, 11:07:57 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2023, 07:33:31 pm
Maybe An ergot induced hallucination.  Kind of like the early 1690's with Salem witches.

Interesting story, but hardly proof.

Funny... Two tales told nearly a thousand years apart... But that's not proof.

No matter. Get out of town and up on a mountain and look up into the dark night sky. On any given night you will see something that cannot be explained. Then dismiss your own lying eyes.  :shrug:

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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2023, 11:09:41 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 30, 2023, 08:00:02 pm
Maybe they should be using the term "subterrestrial"??   :shrug:

I am not against subterranean things we know nothing about. Caver stories are pretty weird... And usually the same.
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2023, 11:52:31 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 30, 2023, 11:07:57 pm
Funny... Two tales told nearly a thousand years apart... But that's not proof.

No matter. Get out of town and up on a mountain and look up into the dark night sky. On any given night you will see something that cannot be explained. Then dismiss your own lying eyes.  :shrug:
Yep. There's a lot going on out there, and I don't have all the answers. :shrug:
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Re: An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2023, 06:43:01 am »
with all the stars out there,  and the exoplanets, and exomoons, it is almost folly to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe.
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2023, 06:56:17 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2023, 07:13:59 pm
What evidence?  Show me one proven example of an ET....  And not  that bogus Alien Autopsy

Prove one iota of this being true.    I am sure there are some examples of some 100's, 100's, and millions of light years away, but under our nose?   :silly:

Actually, the premise here is that "THEY" already exist.  Should they show/introduce themselves...land on the White House lawn?

If you want to see crime and lawlessness explode, then make it public.

If humans have nothing to 'fear'...as in eternal fires of hell...then it follows that all religions are as Marx suggested....the OPIUM OF THE MASSES!
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2023, 11:35:49 am »
Beam me up, Scotty.  This planet is messed up beyond redemption.
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2023, 11:41:27 am »
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What if aliens have been living alongside us the whole time ...



... what if what we thought were household pets were really alien spies?
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2023, 01:21:08 pm »
Quote from: DefiantMassRINO on August 31, 2023, 11:41:27 am
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What if aliens have been living alongside us the whole time ...



... what if what we thought were household pets were really alien spies?

LOL!  How else to explain my cat suddenly bolting up in the middle of the night... running around the place like she's in the Daytona 500.
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2023, 01:32:06 pm »
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   They lock their doors and roll up their windows when they drive by our corner of the Solar System.   :whistle:

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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2023, 02:21:07 pm »


If this artist's concept is correct, I think Ramaswamy is wrong.

NOBODY unarmed will be safe.
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2023, 02:33:13 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 31, 2023, 06:56:17 am
Actually, the premise here is that "THEY" already exist.  Should they show/introduce themselves...land on the White House lawn?

If you want to see crime and lawlessness explode, then make it public.

If humans have nothing to 'fear'...as in eternal fires of hell...then it follows that all religions are as Marx suggested....the OPIUM OF THE MASSES!

If these little green men were crawling around, why hasn't one of these been caught by the one of billions of camera phones roaming around our planet?  That would a tad tough keeping that genie in the bottle.  Secondly, go to YT, and search even the strongest claims. All I've seen were bogus tricks and hoaxes.  I am not saying 100% that they aren't here, but when I see the likes of Musk saying they are not, I think I'd believe him versus some big haired nutjob guy saying...  "I am not saying  they are aliens, but they are aliens.
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2023, 02:43:34 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 31, 2023, 02:33:13 pm
If these little green men were crawling around, why hasn't one of these been caught by the one of billions of camera phones roaming around our planet?  That would a tad tough keeping that genie in the bottle.  Secondly, go to YT, and search even the strongest claims. All I've seen were bogus tricks and hoaxes.  I am not saying 100% that they aren't here, but when I see the likes of Musk saying they are not, I think I'd believe him versus some big haired nutjob guy saying...  "I am not saying  they are aliens, but they are aliens.

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2023, 02:44:09 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 31, 2023, 02:33:13 pm
If these little green men were crawling around, why hasn't one of these been caught by the one of billions of camera phones roaming around our planet?  That would a tad tough keeping that genie in the bottle.  Secondly, go to YT, and search even the strongest claims. All I've seen were bogus tricks and hoaxes.  I am not saying 100% that they aren't here, but when I see the likes of Musk saying they are not, I think I'd believe him versus some big haired nutjob guy saying...  "I am not saying  they are aliens, but they are aliens.

ROFL!   I'll have to hat-tip you there!  happy77

But seriously...lol...as others have already said, "The Proof is all around us".

*** Technology to heat irregular stone/rock to build walls without mortar.

Do you believe that is simply "lost" technology, missing for hundreds of thousands of years?
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2023, 03:19:52 pm »
Quote from: DefiantMassRINO on August 31, 2023, 11:41:27 am
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What if aliens have been living alongside us the whole time ...



... what if what we thought were household pets were really alien spies?

That was actually a nice little movie.
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Re: An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2023, 04:06:10 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 31, 2023, 01:21:08 pm
LOL!  How else to explain my cat suddenly bolting up in the middle of the night... running around the place like she's in the Daytona 500.

Oh, critters can see what we can't (spirits). I have no doubt.
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Re: An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2023, 04:16:42 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 31, 2023, 04:06:10 pm
Oh, critters can see what we can't (spirits). I have no doubt.

I don't believe in ghosts, but we have had two different dogs mysteriously stare and start barking at an exact same spot near a wall.

Never could figure out a plausible reason.
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Re: An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2023, 04:25:30 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 31, 2023, 04:16:42 pm
I don't believe in ghosts, but we have had two different dogs mysteriously stare and start barking at an exact same spot near a wall.

Never could figure out a plausible reason.

The probable reason is that they can see what you can't.

FWIW, I do not believe in ghosts per se either.
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2023, 11:35:45 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 31, 2023, 04:06:10 pm
Oh, critters can see what we can't (spirits). I have no doubt.
Why Dogs are kept away from council fires and naming ceremonies, among other things. They scare the spirits away (good and bad), according to the medicine man.
 
Yeah, she goes all hostile at things I can't see, some nights. Maybe it is just a fast feral cat hiding in shadow?

But why my dog is never far away...
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Re: An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2023, 02:00:59 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 31, 2023, 11:35:45 pm
But why my dog is never far away...

That's right. I think I've told my sasquatch story here a time or two... And the thing that freaked me out the most in that situation was that dog - Brown, who ain't afraid of nothing in the woods... Coyotes call him out, and off he goes, and in the morning, two or three dead coyotes tell the tale. He shags after bears for fun, and got tore up bad from a cougar that he killed. That was one bad ass dog, man.

But in that situation, I could plainly see the fear on him. I mean he was trying to crawl in my pants with me... Right up next to me right on my thigh... and I wasn't alright until that let up about half way through the next day...

Yeah... What a dog like that thinks about anything, I am gonna pay mind.
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Re: An Alien Message To Mankind: “Do You Wish That We Show Up?”
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2023, 03:32:04 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on September 01, 2023, 02:00:59 am
That's right. I think I've told my sasquatch story here a time or two... And the thing that freaked me out the most in that situation was that dog - Brown, who ain't afraid of nothing in the woods... Coyotes call him out, and off he goes, and in the morning, two or three dead coyotes tell the tale. He shags after bears for fun, and got tore up bad from a cougar that he killed. That was one bad ass dog, man.

But in that situation, I could plainly see the fear on him. I mean he was trying to crawl in my pants with me... Right up next to me right on my thigh... and I wasn't alright until that let up about half way through the next day...

Yeah... What a dog like that thinks about anything, I am gonna pay mind.
You know it! 
My dog can hear far better than me, smell a LOT better than me, and when Peaches' ears perk (or go flat, straight back) and she gives me that look, something is up. She has different barks for different stuff, too, and about a three octave range.  :laugh:
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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