Nikki Haley Burned Trump and Her Fellow Republicans for Blowing Up the Debt. She's Right.

[Kamaji]

Nikki Haley Burned Trump and Her Fellow Republicans for Blowing Up the Debt. She's Right.

"Donald Trump added $8 trillion to our debt," Haley said during the opening moments of Wednesday's first Republican primary debate.

ERIC BOEHM
8.23.2023

When it comes to runaway federal spending, unsustainable levels of borrowing, and the inflation that those first two things have helped unleash, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley said Wednesday that Republicans better look in the mirror.

"The truth is that Biden didn't do this to us, our Republicans did this to us too," Haley said during the early moments of Wednesday's Republican primary debate. She pointed specifically to Republican support in Congress for COVID stimulus bills and other recent spending packages. "They need to stop the spending, they need to stop the borrowing, they need to eliminate the earmarks that Republicans brought back in," she said.

Then she delivered the hammer blow: "And Donald Trump added $8 trillion to our debt, and our kids are never going to forgive us for this," Haley said.

She nailed it.

https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1694519898880282652

Trump promised to pay off the national debt within eight years when he was running for office in 2016. When he got to the White House, the national debt was a little less than $20 trillion. He, uh, didn't pay it off. Instead, federal spending climbed each of the first three years that Trump was in office—from $3.98 trillion in fiscal year 2017 to $4.45 trillion in 2019—then exploded in 2020 due to emergency COVID-19 spending. (For the first two years of Trump's term, Republicans also had full control of Congress, so there is a lot of blame to go around.)

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Source:  https://reason.com/2023/08/23/nikki-haley-burned-trump-and-her-fellow-republicans-for-blowing-up-the-debt-shes-right/

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Good point. While others are wondering who "burned"/"humiliated" who, fact remains that fiscally we are in big trouble. Trouble is, not sure the public cares about that, when they can't even manage their own finances.

[Free Vulcan]

Nice jab at DeSantis - except he was long gone when the big numbers rolled in. Pretty disingenuous, but we know who she's scared of.

BTW Nikki, in the years you were Gov did you refuse any of the Federal deficit spending dollars for your state?

[LMAO]

She is right.

But even if a candidate preaches against our unsustainable spending, what will they actually do when once in office?

[DefiantMassRINO]

 

We know the $h!t is hitting the fan when long-serving members of Congress retire to "spend more time with their families" en masse.

The deficit / debt is an imaginary abstract esoteric accounting and actuarial paper crisis ... until its too late.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Definitely not my favorite, but I'd vote for her in the primaries before Ramaswamy, and in the general if she was the nominee.

Right now, the only person I'm sure I wouldn't vote for in the general is Trump.  Ramaswamy is on the bubble.

[GtHawk]

She is right.

But even if a candidate preaches against our unsustainable spending, what will they actually do when once in office?

Seems to me we found out about one of them not so very long ago.

[Wingnut]

I found her to be unlikable. 

[libertybele]

I found her to be unlikable.

No, she doesn't have an overwhelmingly likeable personality, but she did well last night and she is correct on this subject.  IMHO she can't express the confidence that she needs to when she speaks. However, at this point in time, should she be the GOP nominee, I would consider voting for her.

[catfish1957]

I found her to be unlikable.

More than that.  She is the "B" word with a capital "B"  I hope she flames out ASAP.

[jmyrlefuller]

She is right.

But even if a candidate preaches against our unsustainable spending, what will they actually do when once in office?

Ask Paul Ryan what happens when you try.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Ask Paul Ryan what happens when you try.

 

For all the hatred he got, Ryan was the last national figure who actually was willing to take on entitlements.  He deserves respect just for that.

[catfish1957]

For all the hatred he got, Ryan was the last national figure who actually was willing to take on entitlements.  He deserves respect just for that.

Bbbbbbbbbut.....    By history, his wagon is hitched to Romney.  There is no recovery from that.

[Bigun]

For all the hatred he got, Ryan was the last national figure who actually was willing to take on entitlements.  He deserves respect just for that.

Bovine scat! Paul Ryan was/is a master at giving the appearance of doing something while actually doing nothing at all of substance! He is far from the only one.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Bbbbbbbbbut.....    By history, his wagon is hitched to Romney.  There is no recovery from that.

Nobody in Washington is close to 100%, and Romney wasn't as bad in 2012 as he became later.  And it doesn't detract from the Ryan's relentless opposition to entitlement.  He actually rammed through a partial repeal to Obamacare that would have ended up killing to the whole thing in the end.  It would have passed the Senate if not for McCain being a spiteful douchenozzle.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Bovine scat! Paul Ryan was/is a master at giving the appearance of doing something while actually doing nothing at all of substance! He is far from the only one.

Ryan consistently pushed for entitlement reform.  It was never his fault that the rest of the GOP -- especially Trump -- didn't have the stomach for it. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/paul-ryan-entitlement-reform-is-the-policy-goal-that-got-away

And as I noted above, he got the partial repeal of Obamacare -- the entitlement part -- through the House.  He also got through the tax reform bill.  That's not "nothing at all of substance".

He was wildly wrong on immigration.  But there hasn't been anyone else in Washington who opposed entitlements for as long or as consistently as he did.  The Dems absolutely hated him for it.

  https://www.ncpssm.org/entitledtoknow/farewell-paul-ryan-insidious-entitlement-reforms/

[Kamaji]

Ryan consistently pushed for entitlement reform.  It was never his fault that the rest of the GOP -- especially Trump -- didn't have the stomach for it. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/paul-ryan-entitlement-reform-is-the-policy-goal-that-got-away

And as I noted above, he got the partial repeal of Obamacare -- the entitlement part -- through the House.  He also got through the tax reform bill.  That's not "nothing at all of substance".

He was wildly wrong on immigration.  But there hasn't been anyone else in Washington who opposed entitlements for as long or as consistently as he did.  The Dems absolutely hated him for it.

  https://www.ncpssm.org/entitledtoknow/farewell-paul-ryan-insidious-entitlement-reforms/

[Bigun]

Paul Ryan kept his thump on the scales and consistently prevented ANY real tax reform measure from being brought up and debated in Ways and Means. THAT is the truth of the matter! Smoke and mirrors is all Paul Ryan knows!

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Paul Ryan kept his thump on the scales and consistently prevented ANY real tax reform measure from being brought up and debated in Ways and Means. THAT is the truth of the matter!

Paul Ryan was Chair of the House Ways and Means committee for a grand total of 10 months: January 2015 - October 15.  That's obviously when Obama was President, and there was no chance in hell he would have signed GOP/conservative tax reform.  Zero.  And he wasn't a fan of wasting time debating things that he knew weren't going anyway.
 

Smoke and mirrors is all Paul Ryan knows![/size]

Then how did the largest tax reform bill in history pass the very first time Ryan was Speaker and had a President who would sign his bill?  That can't just be coincidence, and it wasn't "smoke and mirrors".

[DefiantMassRINO]

Sooner or later, the increasing size of interest payments on the Debt will force fiscal austerity.

Those that were fiscally loose will conveniently no longer be in Government and they will make future generations clean up their mess.

Inter-generational debt is tyranny.

[Bigun]

Paul Ryan was Chair of the House Ways and Means committee for a grand total of 10 months: January 2015 - October 15.  That's obviously when Obama was President, and there was no chance in hell he would have signed GOP/conservative tax reform.  Zero.  And he wasn't a fan of wasting time debating things that he knew weren't going anyway.

He was speaker after that and strictly controlled Ways and Means as such.
 

Then how did the largest tax reform bill in history pass the very first time Ryan was Speaker and had a President who would sign his bill?  That can't just be coincidence, and it wasn't "smoke and mirrors".

What tax reform?? Just more smoke and mirrors disguised as tax reform.

[jmyrlefuller]

He was speaker after that and strictly controlled Ways and Means as such.
 

What tax reform?? Just more smoke and mirrors disguised as tax reform.

Sorry he didn't dismantle the "Marxist income tax" in favor of the BoortzTax designed solely to sell books.

[Bigun]

Sorry he didn't dismantle the "Marxist income tax" in favor of the BoortzTax designed solely to sell books.

There is no such thing as a Boortz tax! But you knew that already!

The Marxist income tax NEEDS to go!

[jmyrlefuller]

Ryan consistently pushed for entitlement reform.  It was never his fault that the rest of the GOP -- especially Trump -- didn't have the stomach for it. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/paul-ryan-entitlement-reform-is-the-policy-goal-that-got-away

And as I noted above, he got the partial repeal of Obamacare -- the entitlement part -- through the House.  He also got through the tax reform bill.  That's not "nothing at all of substance".

He was wildly wrong on immigration.  But there hasn't been anyone else in Washington who opposed entitlements for as long or as consistently as he did.  The Dems absolutely hated him for it.

  https://www.ncpssm.org/entitledtoknow/farewell-paul-ryan-insidious-entitlement-reforms/

Bigun is a FairTax true believer and has been for a long while.

[jmyrlefuller]

There is no such thing as a Boortz tax! But you knew that already!

The Marxist income tax NEEDS to go!

Neal Boortz's national sales tax, you know which one I am talking about. The one in the book he's been selling for decades.