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Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« on: August 21, 2023, 02:48:20 pm »
Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now

BY MATT MARGOLIS
AUGUST 21, 2023

After previously indicating that he would not participate in the first GOP primary debate in Milwaukee, which is scheduled for Wednesday, former president Donald Trump has announced that he won’t participate in any of the 2024 GOP presidential primary debates.

“The public knows who I am & what a successful Presidency I had, with Energy Independence, Strong Borders & Military, Biggest EVER Tax & Regulation Cuts, No Inflation, Strongest Economy in History, & much more. I WILL THEREFORE NOT BE DOING THE DEBATES!” Trump announced Sunday in a post on Truth Social. “Why would I allow people at 1% and 2% and 0% to be hitting me with questions all night?”

“People know my Record, one of the BEST EVER, so why would I Debate? I’M YOUR MAN. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” he added in another post.

Trump recently urged his GOP primary rivals to withdraw from the race and support his candidacy, citing his commanding lead in the polls. He previously refused to sign a loyalty pledge requiring him to affirm that he will support the eventual GOP nominee. “Why would I sign it?” he asked. “I can name three or four people that I wouldn’t support for president. So right there, there’s a problem.”

Trump clearly believes that there’s no advantage to participating in the debates, but that doesn’t mean this decision won’t backfire on him.

“For the voters at least actively considering someone else along with Trump, their rationale most often is that they’re just keeping their options open. About half of them also say they are ‘waiting to see the debate.’ That might be the most hopeful news for those candidates going into the week,” CBS News reports. “A sizable four in 10 of these voters do cite Trump being ‘controversial’ as another reason for considering others, perhaps reflecting uncertainty about what his future holds, and that it’s a talking point for other candidates. Comparably few currently say it’s because they think Trump could lose to Mr. Biden.”

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Source:  https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/08/21/trump-will-skip-all-gop-primary-debates-now-n1720804



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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2023, 02:50:20 pm »
... because his lawyers don't want him to say something self-incriminating on live television.
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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2023, 02:53:42 pm »
 Donald Trump Jr., Kimberly Guilfoyle To Attend First GOP Debate Despite Trump Absence


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August 21, 2023 9:57 AM ET

Donald Trump Jr. and Kimberly Guilfoyle will attend the first GOP debate of the 2024 election cycle despite Donald Trump’s absence, the Daily Caller has learned.

“We’re excited to see all of our friends in Milwaukee on Wednesday in support of President Trump. We’re confident that in 2024, GOP voters will reject the RINO establishment and re-nominate President Trump in a landslide,” Trump Jr. and Guilfoyle told the Caller.

The pair are going to do media for the former president and will be promoting their Rumble shows.

The former president previously hinted that he would not participate in the presidential debates and confirmed Sunday that he would not be in attendance.

“The public knows who I am & what a successful Presidency I had, with Energy Independence, Strong Borders & Military, Biggest EVER Tax & Regulation Cuts, No Inflation, Strongest Economy in History, & much more. I WILL THEREFORE NOT BE DOING THE DEBATES!” Trump announced on Truth Social.

Instead, Trump is reportedly planning to sit down with Daily Caller co-founder Tucker Carlson for an interview.

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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2023, 03:13:14 pm »
... because his lawyers don't want him to say something self-incriminating on live television.

Will make his Presidency hard then, no?

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2023, 04:28:26 pm »
... because his lawyers don't want him to say something self-incriminating on live television.

I'm thinking that Trump might have - once again - shot off his mouth in a way that hurts potential legal arguments.

Isn't part of Trump's argument that these prosecutions amount to deliberate election interference?  If so, then trials, hearings, etc. that would legitimately interfere with his ability to participate in scheduled Republican primary debates would strengthen that argument. He and his lawyers could argue to the courts that he is unable to participate in debates critical to the primary process because of these trials.  He would at least be making a stronger case by pointing to the conflict between the debates and the trials. 

And even if he doesn't make that argument in court, the argument that trials are a deliberate attempt to prevent him from participating in Republican debates might carry some weight in the court of public opinion.

But by announcing this early that he will not participate in any future debates, his lawyers can no longer argue to the court with a straight face that the trials are interfering with the debate schedule. The prosecution will simply point to Trump's own public statements that he has no intention of participating in any of the debates, which undercuts the arguments his lawyers could otherwise make.

He didn't have to promise to participate - he just had to leave it as an open issue.  Now, he can't.

What a dumbtrump.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2023, 04:42:03 pm »
I'm thinking that Trump might have - once again - shot off his mouth in a way that hurts potential legal arguments.

Isn't part of Trump's argument that these prosecutions amount to deliberate election interference?  If so, then trials, hearings, etc. that would legitimately interfere with his ability to participate in scheduled Republican primary debates would strengthen that argument. He and his lawyers could argue to the courts that he is unable to participate in debates critical to the primary process because of these trials.  He would at least be making a stronger case by pointing to the conflict between the debates and the trials. 

And even if he doesn't make that argument in court, the argument that trials are a deliberate attempt to prevent him from participating in Republican debates might carry some weight in the court of public opinion.

But by announcing this early that he will not participate in any future debates, his lawyers can no longer argue to the court with a straight face that the trials are interfering with the debate schedule. The prosecution will simply point to Trump's own public statements that he has no intention of participating in any of the debates, which undercuts the arguments his lawyers could otherwise make.

He didn't have to promise to participate - he just had to leave it as an open issue.  Now, he can't.

What a dumbtrump.

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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2023, 04:44:10 pm »
I see you’re not aware of Trump’s (insert number here) dimensional chess skills

Is it 6D now?
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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2023, 04:45:50 pm »
I'm thinking that Trump might have - once again - shot off his mouth in a way that hurts potential legal arguments.

Isn't part of Trump's argument that these prosecutions amount to deliberate election interference?  If so, then trials, hearings, etc. that would legitimately interfere with his ability to participate in scheduled Republican primary debates would strengthen that argument. He and his lawyers could argue to the courts that he is unable to participate in debates critical to the primary process because of these trials.  He would at least be making a stronger case by pointing to the conflict between the debates and the trials. 

And even if he doesn't make that argument in court, the argument that trials are a deliberate attempt to prevent him from participating in Republican debates might carry some weight in the court of public opinion.

But by announcing this early that he will not participate in any future debates, his lawyers can no longer argue to the court with a straight face that the trials are interfering with the debate schedule. The prosecution will simply point to Trump's own public statements that he has no intention of participating in any of the debates, which undercuts the arguments his lawyers could otherwise make.

He didn't have to promise to participate - he just had to leave it as an open issue.  Now, he can't.

What a dumbtrump.


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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2023, 04:47:18 pm »
Is it 6D now?

That’s so 2015

We gotta be at least up to the 50 something dimensional chess by now
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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2023, 04:53:52 pm »
I'd be happy if he skips the debates and the election... Just go away.

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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2023, 05:01:18 pm »
He will change his mind if he starts tanking in the polls.

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2023, 06:17:26 pm »
He will change his mind if he starts tanking in the polls.

He doesn't say he won't be responding to the debates ........

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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2023, 10:04:48 pm »
No need to show up and be everyone else's punching bag.

Folks who are going to vote for him don't care, anyway.

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2023, 10:08:21 pm »
He will change his mind if he starts tanking in the polls.

Of course he will. His ego won't allow him to stay silent once he starts sinking.  Either that or he'll do rallies at the same time of the debates.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2023, 10:12:21 pm »
Sure he is.  Just wait till we get some GOP rival pinning him down on how he expects to pony up the $15T needed for the construction of Freedom Cities he has promised.

He saw Pedo Joe use the basement strategy, and he is planning to use it too.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2023, 10:38:38 pm »
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Very simple: Trump can’t win. 65% already against him. That’s before Dems launch barrage after getting him nominated. If we finally grasp that, his support will collapse. If not, we lose everything, and Dems use majorities to remake Supreme Court. Nominate him if you want, but that’s reality.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2023, 11:45:30 pm »
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Very simple: Trump can’t win. 65% already against him. That’s before Dems launch barrage after getting him nominated ........

So, Andy's logic is DeSantis *can* win because 88% are already against him?  Do I have that right?

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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2023, 11:50:54 pm »
    Trump is the antifreeze your wife keeps putting in your morning Orange Juice.  Some people here still wonder why they are so sick.  He's poison to the GOP. 
    Where was that Red Wave in 22, even though he wasn't on the ballot? 
    The sooner he drops out the better.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2023, 11:58:47 pm »
    Trump is the antifreeze your wife keeps putting in your morning Orange Juice.  Some people here still wonder why they are so sick.  He's poison to the GOP. 
    Where was that Red Wave in 22, even though he wasn't on the ballot? 
    The sooner he drops out the better.

Trump and his MAGA movement was successfully defined by Biden to voters just a few weeks before the midterms

If a cognitively compromised old man can beat them, what do you think a Whitmer or Newsome would do to them?
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2023, 12:19:04 am »
    Trump is the antifreeze your wife keeps putting in your morning Orange Juice.  Some people here still wonder why they are so sick.  He's poison to the GOP. 
    Where was that Red Wave in 22, even though he wasn't on the ballot? 
    The sooner he drops out the better.
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I have wondered about the wave. I was too sick all of last year and completely missed...everything. Here is a long article about it.I can save people time with the money shot at the end.

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The last-minute nosedive of Republican fortunes was not about a change in the grand fundamentals of democratic elections. It was not about national conditions or issues, or about candidate quality or internal party divisions, and not about either Biden or Trump. The expectations of a Republican wave reflected public opinion, but their surprising fall from those expectations was not about public opinion at all. It was about the campaign system – the combined elements of mobilization-friendly and early mail-in balloting, large campaign organizations to gather the votes, and an enormous amount of money, all coming together for one party focused on a number of politically important races in competitive states. In many ways, it might be characterized as a 21st century incarnation of the machine politics of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Republicans in 2022 were caught flat-footed in securing reasonable limits to easy/early mail-in voting and were badly outspent by Democrats who used the rules and their resources for rounding up enough votes in the right places to block the red wave. As George Washington Plunkitt, a late 19th century leader of the legendary Tammany Hall political machine, might have said about those running the 21st century version of political machines: “They seen their opportunities and they took ’em.”

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Re: Trump Will Skip All GOP Primary Debates Now
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2023, 12:29:36 am »
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Very simple: Trump can’t win. 65% already against him. That’s before Dems launch barrage after getting him nominated. If we finally grasp that, his support will collapse. If not, we lose everything, and Dems use majorities to remake Supreme Court. Nominate him if you want, but that’s reality.

So many stats show Trump ahead of the game and other stats show Trump losing.

I believe it is too early to really tell.  As I've stated before, Brandon isn't going to be the DEM nominee, nor Chuckles.  They've already selected who they want to be the DEM nominee and it's not going to be one that Trump or any other GOP candidate can easily beat.

Then there's the DEM steal....(sigh)
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2023, 12:33:46 am »
That’s so 2015

We gotta be at least up to the 50 something dimensional chess by now

Could this be considered part of it?  :pondering: