Trump calls on Supreme Court to ‘intercede’ in legal fights

[mystery-ak]

Trump calls on Supreme Court to ‘intercede’ in legal fights
by Jared Gans - 08/04/23 8:58 AM ET

Former President Trump is calling on the Supreme Court to intercede in the legal battles he is facing after he pleaded not guilty federal to charges related to special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot and efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

Trump in a post on Truth Social on Friday repeated accusations that President Biden is pushing for the cases against him for political purposes. Trump also said the multiple cases against him will require “massive amounts” of time and money and force him to use resources on court battles that could have been used for advertisements and rallies.

“I am leading in all Polls, including against Crooked Joe, but this is not a level playing field. It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede. MAGA!” Trump said.

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4137407-trump-calls-on-supreme-court-to-intercede-in-legal-fights/

[libertybele]

The SCOTUS looked the other way while Brandon was sworn in.  What makes Trump think that they are going to help him now?

[Kamaji]

The Court will step in if, when, and as the normal legal procedures bring his case before the Court.  The Supreme Court is not some free-ranging court of equity, with plenary power to right any wrongs it might come across on its own initiative.

[cato potatoe]

Put everything else aside, and Trump does not have the skills to oppose the left in any meaningful way.  Either we find better representation, or the lawlessness will continue unabated. 

[Kamaji]

Put everything else aside, and Trump does not have the skills to oppose the left in any meaningful way.  Either we find better representation, or the lawlessness will continue unabated. 

[DefiantMassRINO]

 

... three of those Supreme Court Justices owe Trump, in his very stable genius mind.

[Timber Rattler]

What makes Trump think the U.S. Supreme Court would actually hear any of his cases?  It hears cases mostly on appeal, and certainly won't intervene with the lower federal district courts and especially the New York state/city court.  And it's not obligated to take any case. 

BTW, did the Kraken ever make it to SCOTUS?

[libertybele]

... three of those Supreme Court Justices owe Trump, in his very stable genius mind.

IMHO his 3 picks were lousy.

[Timber Rattler]

IMHO his 3 picks were lousy.

I like Neil Gorsuch.  He's the most libertarian of the lot, even more so than Thomas.

[LadyLiberty]

The Court will step in if, when, and as the normal legal procedures bring his case before the Court.  The Supreme Court is not some free-ranging court of equity, with plenary power to right any wrongs it might come across on its own initiative.

 

Unless what he said was taken out of context, Trump still does not understand the basics of the constitution and what the three branches of government can or cannot do.

[Kamaji]

I like Neil Gorsuch.  He's the most libertarian of the lot, even more so than Thomas.

He will, I think, have a major hand in refashioning administrative law in the next few decades.

[corbe]

Mark Levin is Donald Trump’s legal counsel now

by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist 
August 04, 2023 10:52 AM
 | Updated Aug 04, 2023, 11:59 AM

In reaching out to the Supreme Court to shut down the legal “witch hunts” he is facing from his chief political opponent, former President Donald Trump is piggybacking off the latest recommendation to him made by conservative talk show giant and former Justice Department chief of staff Mark Levin.

Trump’s call on his Truth Social platform today read like Levin’s thread on X, formerly known as Twitter, from last night in which he posted, “I want to publicly encourage the Trump legal team to seek an emergency hearing before the U.S. Supreme Court, not to resolve legal disputes, but to at least temporarily halt the abomination of this legal warfare that is unfolding in front of us.”

He added, “This unprecedented legal warfare requires an unprecedented response by the only constitutional body left that can do something about it -- the Supreme Court.”

And after this story posted, Levin added another post about how Trump can get the Supreme Court to consider his appeal. In that one, he concluded: "Individual district court judges ought not decide for the nation how we shall now proceed, given what the Biden DOJ has foisted in the nation. This matter needs to get to SCOTUS."

On Truth Social, Trump posted this morning, “It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede.”

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/mark-levin-is-donald-trumps-legal-counsel-now

[Kamaji]

Mark Levin is Donald Trump’s legal counsel now

by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist 
August 04, 2023 10:52 AM
 | Updated Aug 04, 2023, 11:59 AM

In reaching out to the Supreme Court to shut down the legal “witch hunts” he is facing from his chief political opponent, former President Donald Trump is piggybacking off the latest recommendation to him made by conservative talk show giant and former Justice Department chief of staff Mark Levin.

Trump’s call on his Truth Social platform today read like Levin’s thread on X, formerly known as Twitter, from last night in which he posted, “I want to publicly encourage the Trump legal team to seek an emergency hearing before the U.S. Supreme Court, not to resolve legal disputes, but to at least temporarily halt the abomination of this legal warfare that is unfolding in front of us.”

He added, “This unprecedented legal warfare requires an unprecedented response by the only constitutional body left that can do something about it -- the Supreme Court.”

And after this story posted, Levin added another post about how Trump can get the Supreme Court to consider his appeal. In that one, he concluded: "Individual district court judges ought not decide for the nation how we shall now proceed, given what the Biden DOJ has foisted in the nation. This matter needs to get to SCOTUS."

On Truth Social, Trump posted this morning, “It is Election Interference, & the Supreme Court must intercede.”

<..snip..>

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/mark-levin-is-donald-trumps-legal-counsel-now

And now we're heading off to the land of farce and make-believe.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

And now we're heading off to the land of farce and make-believe.

He's screwed basically.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Unless what he said was taken out of context, Trump still does not understand the basics of the constitution and what the three branches of government can or cannot do.

And even worse, he clearly doesn't even care to.  He just thinks he should be able to do what he thinks needs to be done because...he's Donald Trump.

That being said, if I were representing Trump, I'd be working hard to come up with some argument to get some of this up before an appellate court.  I never did any federal criminal law, so I can't say if that is even possible.

[Kamaji]

He's screwed basically.

If he sticks with this sort of "advice", yes.

[Timber Rattler]

If he sticks with this sort of "advice", yes.

Levin's actually a decent Constitutional attorney and has actually argued before the Court several times on 1st Amendment cases, albeit years ago.  So he knows better than to spout this kind of pandering nonsense.  If he's not careful, he's going to get his law license yanked too.

[berdie]

Levin's actually a decent Constitutional attorney and has actually argued before the Court several times on 1st Amendment cases, albeit years ago.  So he knows better than to spout this kind of pandering nonsense.  If he's not careful, he's going to get his law license yanked too.

When I worked, my 2-3 hour commute home was spent listening to Levin. Despite his ranting, he was pretty informative.

I am curious as to what has happened. I don't listen to talk radio any more. My blood pressure thanks me.

[corbe]

   When I quit Rush because he drank the koolaid, I began to listen to Levin, then he flipped and I was stuck with Beck, who had his affirmation too late for anybody to give a damn.

[kevindavis007]

The SCOTUS looked the other way while Brandon was sworn in.  What makes Trump think that they are going to help him now?

Why should the SCOTUS help him?

[kevindavis007]

When I worked, my 2-3 hour commute home was spent listening to Levin. Despite his ranting, he was pretty informative.

I am curious as to what has happened. I don't listen to talk radio any more. My blood pressure thanks me.

I see Levin on my Twitter feed for some reason. He has gone unhinged.


I don't listen to any talk radio shows like Levin (truth be told, I never did listen to Levin) anymore. My heart and blood pressure thanks me as well.

[txradioguy]

   When I quit Rush because he drank the koolaid, I began to listen to Levin, then he flipped and I was stuck with Beck, who had his affirmation too late for anybody to give a damn.

If you've got Sirius/XM I highly recommend Andrew Wilkow

[txradioguy]

I see Levin on my Twitter feed for some reason. He has gone unhinged.


I don't listen to any talk radio shows like Levin (truth be told, I never did listen to Levin) anymore. My heart and blood pressure thanks me as well.

I think he's like the rest of us and is tired of seeing the two tiered legal system the left has established in this country.

IMO he sees what's happening to Trump as extreme actions that demand extreme responses.

Skipping the lower courts and heading directly to the SCOTUS to stop these show trials is kinda extreme.

[NavyCanDo]

SCOTUS can't intercede, that is not how the Court is set up to work. He should know this.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

SCOTUS can't intercede, that is not how the Court is set up to work. He should know this.

People here, some of them, feel the USSC should just crown Trump emperor for life...

[yodaspock]

Not really right, The supreme court can make announcements like Allito just did about legislation applying to the Court.

[Kamaji]

SCOTUS can't intercede, that is not how the Court is set up to work. He should know this.

[txradioguy]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

[libertybele]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

Of course they're piling everything on him at once; tie his money up and tie him up in courts so he can't do rallies or campaign.

[Kamaji]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

He's not going to get to go straight to the Supreme Court.

Fla. Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule 9.140, governs appeals in criminal cases, and provides a limited basis for appeals, which does not include an appeal of an interlocutory order, generally speaking.  As such, Trump would have to seek a writ of certiorari from the Supreme Court, and that is almost certainly not going to happen.

Appeals from interlocutory orders are generally disfavored.

[txradioguy]

Of course they're piling everything on him at once; tie his money up and tie him up in courts so he can't do rallies or campaign.

Which in turn is election interference and in some ways rights when it comes to these legal matters.

[txradioguy]

He's not going to get to go straight to the Supreme Court.

Fla. Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule 9.140, governs appeals in criminal cases, and provides a limited basis for appeals, which does not include an appeal of an interlocutory order, generally speaking.  As such, Trump would have to seek a writ of certiorari from the Supreme Court, and that is almost certainly not going to happen.

Appeals from interlocutory orders are generally disfavored.

Start the appeals process up the chain now rather than after he's been convicted. All they need is one of the 80 charges to stick.

I know they tend to disfavor them...but you have to admit these are extraordinary circumstances. 

If the Dems get their way in this before November of next year or hell before the end of this year...then they've laid the groundwork for taking out every GOP candidate for president going forward.

[LadyLiberty]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

That's what it has always been about. If Trump can't hit the campaign trail, and they can't get Biden off of the Dem ticket, then Biden has cover for not getting out there as well. If Trump is under indictment, then what is the big deal about Biden family corruption? All cover for Biden.

If they get Biden to back away and get a younger candidate, then suddenly they will scream that Trump's age is an issue, even though it didn't matter when they voted for Joe knowing he was senile.

And, yes, if Trump were to drop out it would all go away. They are taking a page out of Ronnie Earle's playbook.

[txradioguy]

That's what it has always been about. If Trump can't hit the campaign trail, and they can't get Biden off of the Dem ticket, then Biden has cover for not getting out there as well. If Trump is under indictment, then what is the big deal about Biden family corruption? All cover for Biden.

If they get Biden to back away and get a younger candidate, then suddenly they will scream that Trump's age is an issue, even though it didn't matter when they voted for Joe knowing he was senile.

And, yes, if Trump were to drop out it would all go away. They are taking a page out of Ronnie Earle's playbook.

You know...I knew the Dem Party and all of the folks like Schumer and Pelosi etc were pissed at Donald for leaving the plantation and robbing Hillary of her moment to be President...but I never imagined they'd go this far in punishing him for his transgression.

They're trying to to burn him down and salt the earth where his ashes fall.

[libertybele]

You know...I knew the Dem Party and all of the folks like Schumer and Pelosi etc were pissed at Donald for leaving the plantation and robbing Hillary of her moment to be President...but I never imagined they'd go this far in punishing him for his transgression.

They're trying to to burn him down and salt the earth where his ashes fall.

I think Trump was even surprised that he won and Hillary and all of her cronies were in absolute disbelief. 

What they still haven't accepted is Trump is the voice of millions of Americans. Americans that want nothing to do with the majority of those in Congress, nor the DOJ.  That isn't Trump's fault; it is their fault.

The leftists are good at their smoke and mirrors game and making it an illusion that they are actually doing something positive for this country.  Absolutely nothing that they have done has profited Americans.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

SCOTUS can't intercede, that is not how the Court is set up to work. He should know this.

Trump's idea of how to appeal to the Supreme Court is probably a lot like Michael Scott's idea of declaring bankruptcy:


https://youtu.be/Zp4BQYV0-P0

[Kamaji]

Start the appeals process up the chain now rather than after he's been convicted. All they need is one of the 80 charges to stick.

I know they tend to disfavor them...but you have to admit these are extraordinary circumstances. 

If the Dems get their way in this before November of next year or hell before the end of this year...then they've laid the groundwork for taking out every GOP candidate for president going forward.

That is generally not possible, particularly in a criminal prosecution.  It is one of the things that makes criminal prosecutions procedurally unfair to many defendants - for example, if the trial judge denies a motion to dismiss the indictment for insufficiency, or other defect, that denial generally cannot be appealed until the defendant has gone through the expense and burden of a trial - including having his/her name dragged through the mud - and only then will an appeals court hear the matter.  Some defendants will simply accept an offered plea to a lesser charge - particularly if it goes from felony to misdemeanor - simply to avoid the process, even if that defendant has a good claim on the merits that the indictment is insufficient.

[Timber Rattler]

That is generally not possible, particularly in a criminal prosecution.  It is one of the things that makes criminal prosecutions procedurally unfair to many defendants - for example, if the trial judge denies a motion to dismiss the indictment for insufficiency, or other defect, that denial generally cannot be appealed until the defendant has gone through the expense and burden of a trial - including having his/her name dragged through the mud - and only then will an appeals court hear the matter.  Some defendants will simply accept an offered plea to a lesser charge - particularly if it goes from felony to misdemeanor - simply to avoid the process, even if that defendant has a good claim on the merits that the indictment is insufficient.

Right, the process IS the punishment!

[Kamaji]

Right, the process IS the punishment!

That is too facile a statement; however, yes, there are aspects of the process that can be, and are, abused by prosecutors to get convictions and guilty pleas they might not otherwise be entitled to on the merits.

[txradioguy]

That is generally not possible, particularly in a criminal prosecution.  It is one of the things that makes criminal prosecutions procedurally unfair to many defendants - for example, if the trial judge denies a motion to dismiss the indictment for insufficiency, or other defect, that denial generally cannot be appealed until the defendant has gone through the expense and burden of a trial - including having his/her name dragged through the mud - and only then will an appeals court hear the matter.  Some defendants will simply accept an offered plea to a lesser charge - particularly if it goes from felony to misdemeanor - simply to avoid the process, even if that defendant has a good claim on the merits that the indictment is insufficient.

The bolded part...been there done that...thankfully standing my ground on my innocence and not accepting the lesser plea to make it go away paid off.

[GtHawk]

... three of those Supreme Court Justices owe Trump, in his very stable genius mind.

If that made any sense wouldn't they actually owe McTurtle? I mean Trump only selected them(more likely simply went with recommendations) it's McTurtle that got the votes together to actually have them approved.

[Hoodat]

Put everything else aside, and Trump does not have the skills to oppose the left in any meaningful way.  Either we find better representation, or the lawlessness will continue unabated.

CORRECTAMUNDO !!!

[GtHawk]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

I think the one thing that can be agreed on whether you love Trump or, really don't like him that much, he's getting royally screwed and targeted for only one reason and the only thing, other than maybe keeping Trump from being able to effectively campaign(at the least) is insuring the nation is divided and that's something the democrats love.

[Kamaji]

If that made any sense wouldn't they actually owe McTurtle? I mean Trump only selected them(more likely simply went with recommendations) it's McTurtle that got the votes together to actually have them approved.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

If that made any sense wouldn't they actually owe McTurtle? I mean Trump only selected them(more likely simply went with recommendations) it's McTurtle that got the votes together to actually have them approved.

He's also the guy who kept Garland off the bench despite all the folks who were.convinced he'd cave.

[txradioguy]

I think the one thing that can be agreed on whether you love Trump or, really don't like him that much, he's getting royally screwed and targeted for only one reason and the only thing, other than maybe keeping Trump from being able to effectively campaign(at the least) is insuring the nation is divided and that's something the democrats love.

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

Same but... voting on emotions alone will end in disaster IMO.

[corbe]

  He will never Guilt me into thinking he is the answer to America's problems.  Sure, he's being persecuted relentlessly by the dems but a lot of this is caused by him stepping on his own dick, not thinking things through.  I cannot reward stupidity it's against my nature.

[GtHawk]

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

Defending anyone against blatant attacks like Trump is receiving is just right and I will, but that doesn't translate into me automatically voting for him. There are still some that revel in Trump's bombastic rhetoric and insults, I think that hurts him in these suits but he will never learn and I have grown out of finding them appealing.