Trump calls on Supreme Court to ‘intercede’ in legal fights

[yodaspock]

Not really right, The supreme court can make announcements like Allito just did about legislation applying to the Court.

[Kamaji]

SCOTUS can't intercede, that is not how the Court is set up to work. He should know this.

[txradioguy]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

[libertybele]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

Of course they're piling everything on him at once; tie his money up and tie him up in courts so he can't do rallies or campaign.

[Kamaji]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

He's not going to get to go straight to the Supreme Court.

Fla. Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule 9.140, governs appeals in criminal cases, and provides a limited basis for appeals, which does not include an appeal of an interlocutory order, generally speaking.  As such, Trump would have to seek a writ of certiorari from the Supreme Court, and that is almost certainly not going to happen.

Appeals from interlocutory orders are generally disfavored.

[txradioguy]

Of course they're piling everything on him at once; tie his money up and tie him up in courts so he can't do rallies or campaign.

Which in turn is election interference and in some ways rights when it comes to these legal matters.

[txradioguy]

He's not going to get to go straight to the Supreme Court.

Fla. Rules of Appellate Procedure, Rule 9.140, governs appeals in criminal cases, and provides a limited basis for appeals, which does not include an appeal of an interlocutory order, generally speaking.  As such, Trump would have to seek a writ of certiorari from the Supreme Court, and that is almost certainly not going to happen.

Appeals from interlocutory orders are generally disfavored.

Start the appeals process up the chain now rather than after he's been convicted. All they need is one of the 80 charges to stick.

I know they tend to disfavor them...but you have to admit these are extraordinary circumstances. 

If the Dems get their way in this before November of next year or hell before the end of this year...then they've laid the groundwork for taking out every GOP candidate for president going forward.

[LadyLiberty]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

That's what it has always been about. If Trump can't hit the campaign trail, and they can't get Biden off of the Dem ticket, then Biden has cover for not getting out there as well. If Trump is under indictment, then what is the big deal about Biden family corruption? All cover for Biden.

If they get Biden to back away and get a younger candidate, then suddenly they will scream that Trump's age is an issue, even though it didn't matter when they voted for Joe knowing he was senile.

And, yes, if Trump were to drop out it would all go away. They are taking a page out of Ronnie Earle's playbook.

[txradioguy]

That's what it has always been about. If Trump can't hit the campaign trail, and they can't get Biden off of the Dem ticket, then Biden has cover for not getting out there as well. If Trump is under indictment, then what is the big deal about Biden family corruption? All cover for Biden.

If they get Biden to back away and get a younger candidate, then suddenly they will scream that Trump's age is an issue, even though it didn't matter when they voted for Joe knowing he was senile.

And, yes, if Trump were to drop out it would all go away. They are taking a page out of Ronnie Earle's playbook.

You know...I knew the Dem Party and all of the folks like Schumer and Pelosi etc were pissed at Donald for leaving the plantation and robbing Hillary of her moment to be President...but I never imagined they'd go this far in punishing him for his transgression.

They're trying to to burn him down and salt the earth where his ashes fall.

[libertybele]

You know...I knew the Dem Party and all of the folks like Schumer and Pelosi etc were pissed at Donald for leaving the plantation and robbing Hillary of her moment to be President...but I never imagined they'd go this far in punishing him for his transgression.

They're trying to to burn him down and salt the earth where his ashes fall.

I think Trump was even surprised that he won and Hillary and all of her cronies were in absolute disbelief. 

What they still haven't accepted is Trump is the voice of millions of Americans. Americans that want nothing to do with the majority of those in Congress, nor the DOJ.  That isn't Trump's fault; it is their fault.

The leftists are good at their smoke and mirrors game and making it an illusion that they are actually doing something positive for this country.  Absolutely nothing that they have done has profited Americans.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

SCOTUS can't intercede, that is not how the Court is set up to work. He should know this.

Trump's idea of how to appeal to the Supreme Court is probably a lot like Michael Scott's idea of declaring bankruptcy:


https://youtu.be/Zp4BQYV0-P0

[Kamaji]

Start the appeals process up the chain now rather than after he's been convicted. All they need is one of the 80 charges to stick.

I know they tend to disfavor them...but you have to admit these are extraordinary circumstances. 

If the Dems get their way in this before November of next year or hell before the end of this year...then they've laid the groundwork for taking out every GOP candidate for president going forward.

That is generally not possible, particularly in a criminal prosecution.  It is one of the things that makes criminal prosecutions procedurally unfair to many defendants - for example, if the trial judge denies a motion to dismiss the indictment for insufficiency, or other defect, that denial generally cannot be appealed until the defendant has gone through the expense and burden of a trial - including having his/her name dragged through the mud - and only then will an appeals court hear the matter.  Some defendants will simply accept an offered plea to a lesser charge - particularly if it goes from felony to misdemeanor - simply to avoid the process, even if that defendant has a good claim on the merits that the indictment is insufficient.

[Timber Rattler]

That is generally not possible, particularly in a criminal prosecution.  It is one of the things that makes criminal prosecutions procedurally unfair to many defendants - for example, if the trial judge denies a motion to dismiss the indictment for insufficiency, or other defect, that denial generally cannot be appealed until the defendant has gone through the expense and burden of a trial - including having his/her name dragged through the mud - and only then will an appeals court hear the matter.  Some defendants will simply accept an offered plea to a lesser charge - particularly if it goes from felony to misdemeanor - simply to avoid the process, even if that defendant has a good claim on the merits that the indictment is insufficient.

Right, the process IS the punishment!

[Kamaji]

Right, the process IS the punishment!

That is too facile a statement; however, yes, there are aspects of the process that can be, and are, abused by prosecutors to get convictions and guilty pleas they might not otherwise be entitled to on the merits.

[txradioguy]

That is generally not possible, particularly in a criminal prosecution.  It is one of the things that makes criminal prosecutions procedurally unfair to many defendants - for example, if the trial judge denies a motion to dismiss the indictment for insufficiency, or other defect, that denial generally cannot be appealed until the defendant has gone through the expense and burden of a trial - including having his/her name dragged through the mud - and only then will an appeals court hear the matter.  Some defendants will simply accept an offered plea to a lesser charge - particularly if it goes from felony to misdemeanor - simply to avoid the process, even if that defendant has a good claim on the merits that the indictment is insufficient.

The bolded part...been there done that...thankfully standing my ground on my innocence and not accepting the lesser plea to make it go away paid off.

[GtHawk]

... three of those Supreme Court Justices owe Trump, in his very stable genius mind.

If that made any sense wouldn't they actually owe McTurtle? I mean Trump only selected them(more likely simply went with recommendations) it's McTurtle that got the votes together to actually have them approved.

[Hoodat]

Put everything else aside, and Trump does not have the skills to oppose the left in any meaningful way.  Either we find better representation, or the lawlessness will continue unabated.

CORRECTAMUNDO !!!

[GtHawk]

I actually listened to Levin's opening monologue today that addressed how and why Trump should file a motion in the Florida court he's dealing with to go straight to SCOTUS.

It's called an interlocutory appeal. It's an appeal of a non-final order issued during the course of litigation.


It actually makes sense.

And the reason for doing it seems justified...there is no way that Trump can defend himself and work with his lawyers against 80 felony charges in three different states and at the same time run for President.

Garland and the DOJ know this. They are forcing him to decide if he wants to run for office or defend himself in court. That's why they are piling on now and trying to get the cases tried before the election.

IMHO of Trump dropped out tomorrow the cases in all three states would go away.

All Trump's lawyers need to do is ask for a delay in all the proceedings until after the election. There's no worry about any statute of limitations coming into play.

I think the one thing that can be agreed on whether you love Trump or, really don't like him that much, he's getting royally screwed and targeted for only one reason and the only thing, other than maybe keeping Trump from being able to effectively campaign(at the least) is insuring the nation is divided and that's something the democrats love.

[Kamaji]

If that made any sense wouldn't they actually owe McTurtle? I mean Trump only selected them(more likely simply went with recommendations) it's McTurtle that got the votes together to actually have them approved.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

If that made any sense wouldn't they actually owe McTurtle? I mean Trump only selected them(more likely simply went with recommendations) it's McTurtle that got the votes together to actually have them approved.

He's also the guy who kept Garland off the bench despite all the folks who were.convinced he'd cave.

[txradioguy]

I think the one thing that can be agreed on whether you love Trump or, really don't like him that much, he's getting royally screwed and targeted for only one reason and the only thing, other than maybe keeping Trump from being able to effectively campaign(at the least) is insuring the nation is divided and that's something the democrats love.

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

Same but... voting on emotions alone will end in disaster IMO.

[corbe]

  He will never Guilt me into thinking he is the answer to America's problems.  Sure, he's being persecuted relentlessly by the dems but a lot of this is caused by him stepping on his own dick, not thinking things through.  I cannot reward stupidity it's against my nature.

[GtHawk]

That's what frustrates me so much...I don't like him as a candidate and he was "meh" as President.

But the attacks he comes under and all of the crap put out there about him forces me to defend him.

Defending anyone against blatant attacks like Trump is receiving is just right and I will, but that doesn't translate into me automatically voting for him. There are still some that revel in Trump's bombastic rhetoric and insults, I think that hurts him in these suits but he will never learn and I have grown out of finding them appealing.