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This is such BS.
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Perhaps the goal is to get the Biden corruption off the radar with this media diversion.

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Trump denies reports claiming DOJ told him of imminent indictment
by Brady Knox, Breaking News Reporter |
June 07, 2023 03:36 PM

Former President Donald Trump denied reports that the Department of Justice informed him that he would likely be indicted next week in the classified documents investigation.

The former president denied the report on Truth Social, slamming the "witch hunt" and claiming he is innocent.

"No one has told me I’m being indicted, and I shouldn’t be because I’ve done NOTHING wrong, but I have assumed for years that I am a Target of the WEAPONIZED DOJ & FBI, starting with the Russia, Russia, Russia HOAK (sic), the “No Collusion” Mueller Report, Impeachment HOAX #1, Impeachment HOAX #2, the PERFECT Ukraine phone call, and various other SCAMS & WITCH HUNTS. A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE & ELECTION INTERFERENCE AT A LEVEL NEVER SEEN BEFORE. REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS MUST MAKE THIS THEIR # 1 ISSUE!!!" Trump wrote.

Earlier on Wednesday, Trump told New York Times journalist Maggie Haberman that a report from Trump ally John Solomon in Just the News, claiming that prosecutors informed him of a likely upcoming indictment, was "not true."  ... Washington Examiner
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Is it true?

So far Trump says it is not true.

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BREAKING: Trump lawyers have submitted secret evidence to a court alleging a senior federal prosecutor in the classified records case tried to influence a key witness by discussing a federal judgeship with his lawyer.

Feds inform Trump he is target likely to be indicted as DOJ rebuffs prosecutorial misconduct claim; Trump defense has submitted secret evidence alleging a prosecutor tried to sway witness testimony by discussing federal judgeship, story from JustTheNews.
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It'll be interesting to see what the charge(s)is/are.  If he going to be indicted simply for possessing the documents, that seems like it would be sketchy as hell

But if it is going to be for something like making false statements, suborning perjury, obstruction of justice, etc., he may be in a bit more trouble.
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Perhaps the goal is to get the Biden corruption off the radar with this media diversion.

That's a big part of it plus their hatred for Trump..
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The more captial letters he uses in his Truth's, the more guilty his subconscious is.

I wouldn't jump the gun on this until there is a official, public announcement.  This could be a hoax perpetrated by Trump's alter ego, "John Barron", to hijack the newscycle.

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I can't stand Trump but this forthcoming indictment is pure garbage!  It's a blatant attempt to either render Trump invalid as a candidate in 2024, or else tie him down in one or more federal trials so that he cannot campaign.  The damage that this kind of lawfare to the country will do is irreparable, considering how Hillary and Biden have skated even though they did far worse.  This is especially true for Hillary, with her secret server, which was set-up expressly to thwart Congressional oversight and federal records laws, and held over a hundred classified emails, some with their markings deliberately removed.

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REPORT: DOJ Indictment of Donald Trump Imminent, Charges Revealed
By Bonchie | 3:14 PM on June 07, 2023

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    A federal indictment brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith could be handed by a federal grand jury to Trump as early as next week.

    Smith’s prosecutorial team informed Trump’s team in recent days that the charges he faces include a violation of 18 US Code Chapter 37 Section 793 which prohibits the “gathering, transmitting or losing” of national defense information. Other charges reportedly being considered are alleged false statements and obstruction of justice.

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Lastly, the broader timing of all this should infuriate Republicans. The DOJ is about to do what many feared and predicted (including myself), which is to wait around to indict Trump so that the trial takes place after he’s already possibly gained the Republican nomination. Given that a conviction would then be probable (especially if the case is tried in an unfriendly jurisdiction), this could turn out to be the biggest example of election interference in American history. It’s unconscionable, no matter what one thinks of the general merits of the case.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/06/07/report-doj-indictment-of-donald-trump-imminent-charges-revealed-n757523
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A corrupt DOJ is the end of the Republic. It is fundamental to its function.

If the GOP isn't willing to die on this hill then they are just as responsible for the consequences.

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Mark Meadows to plead guilty in deal to testify against Trump: report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/mark-meadows-to-plead-guilty-in-deal-to-testify-against-trump-report/ar-AA1cfLZH

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Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows will reportedly plead guilty as part of a plan to indict former President Donald Trump.

Sources told Andrew Feinberg of The Independent that Meadows' decision to plead guilty was connected to his testimony to a grand jury hearing evidence about Jan. 6 and the mishandling of classified documents.

"It is understood that the former North Carolina congressman will plead guilty to several federal charges as part of a deal for which he has already received limited immunity in exchange for his testimony," Feinberg wrote.
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The Mark Meadows thing is serious.  If he truly is pleading guilty to federal crimes, then things are not looking good for Trump at all.

Bad news all around.  It will just polarize the party further, and make it that much easier for the Democrats.

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Prosecutors ready to ask for Trump indictment on obstruction and Espionage Act charges

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are prepared to ask grand jurors to vote on charges as early as Thursday
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The Department of Justice is preparing to ask a Washington, DC grand jury to indict former president Donald Trump for violating the Espionage Act and for obstruction of justice as soon as Thursday, adding further weight to the legal baggage facing Mr Trump as he campaigns for his party’s nomination in next year’s presidential election.

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Mr Trump for violating a portion of the US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defence”.

The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021.

That section of US criminal law is written in a way that could encompass Mr Trump’s conduct even if he was authorised to possess the information as president because it states that anyone who “lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document ...relating to the national defence,” and “willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it” can be punished by as many as 10 years in prison.

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A corrupt DOJ is the end of the Republic. It is fundamental to its function.

If the GOP isn't willing to die on this hill then they are just as responsible for the consequences.

Meaning what?  Exactly what are we supposed to do?

If the charges are meritless and just "Trumped up", Trump's lawyers can force a trial much sooner than next July-August.

If they're not meritless...what exactly is the rest of the GOP supposed to do if Trump was dumb/careless enough to commit a felony?  And again, that's assuming that the only charge against him isn't just "you had classified documents."

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Prosecutors ready to ask for Trump indictment on obstruction and Espionage Act charges

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are prepared to ask grand jurors to vote on charges as early as Thursday
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The Department of Justice is preparing to ask a Washington, DC grand jury to indict former president Donald Trump for violating the Espionage Act and for obstruction of justice as soon as Thursday, adding further weight to the legal baggage facing Mr Trump as he campaigns for his party’s nomination in next year’s presidential election.

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Mr Trump for violating a portion of the US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defence”.

The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021.

That section of US criminal law is written in a way that could encompass Mr Trump’s conduct even if he was authorised to possess the information as president because it states that anyone who “lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document ...relating to the national defence,” and “willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it” can be punished by as many as 10 years in prison.

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If that's all they've got, then this will blow up in their faces big-time.  I'd guess it isn't, but we'll have to see.

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Meaning what?  Exactly what are we supposed to do?

If the charges are meritless and just "Trumped up", Trump's lawyers can force a trial much sooner than next July-August.

If they're not meritless...what exactly is the rest of the GOP supposed to do if Trump was dumb/careless enough to commit a felony?  And again, that's assuming that the only charge against him isn't just "you had classified documents."

I'm not talking about Trump per se. I'm talking about the very corrupt very political DOJ. The in-your-face Clinton Foundation receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from foreigners while she was secretary of state, her private Email server with government classified documents on it that were clearly leaked and Hunter's laptop that all show the extreme corruption of the DOJ. The GOPs response to it all is critical. Which so far hasn't been much. We will not survive a deeply corrupt DOJ.

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I'm not talking about Trump per se. I'm talking about the very corrupt very political DOJ. The in-your-face Clinton Foundation receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from foreigners while she was secretary of state, her private Email server with government classified documents on it that were clearly leaked and Hunter's laptop that all show the extreme corruption of the DOJ. The GOPs response to it all is critical. Which so far hasn't been much. We will not survive a deeply corrupt DOJ.

Well...the only Republican Administration since all that stuff happened was Trump's.  If the DOJ didn't get cleaned out, or wrongdoers weren't prosecuted...he's the guy most responsible for that.

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I think they'd go after him anyway just because their party is filled with so many Trump-hating lunatics that they don't care how it will affect the country.

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If the charges are meritless and just "Trumped up"

How can a rational adult include the qualifier "if" after living through the past seven years? 

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Well...the only Republican Administration since all that stuff happened was Trump's.  If the DOJ didn't get cleaned out, or wrongdoers weren't prosecuted...he's the guy most responsible for that.

It's really frightening that there are those who walk among us masquerading as "constitutional conservatives" blaming the target for not having the legal or political right to fire those across all federal agencies and Congress who are investigating him ---- and to do so dripping with such moral superiority.

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This was just sent to me..

First 1/3 - 1/2 of this video is worth the watch. He goes through and very clearly explains why the upcoming indictments of Trump is serious and likely to get traction.


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This was just sent to me..

First 1/3 - 1/2 of this video is worth the watch. He goes through and very clearly explains why the upcoming indictments of Trump is serious and likely to get traction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA273kfglIo&ab_channel=JudgeNapolitano-JudgingFreedom

That does sound bad for Trump.
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Anyone think that the leftists/globalists/marxists aren't going to keep Trump from running, regardless of what they have to do to him is dreaming.

They are after him, they've been after him and their corruption is so deep that I just don't see how he's going to escape charges.  Witch hunt or no witch hunt, right or wrong, they aren't going to stop. 

Trump has money to fight them now, but his past lawyers and defense team have been less than adequate.  At best the leftists are going to try to exhaust most of his money and keep him tied up in court.

Prayers up for President Trump and may God have mercy on this country.

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Anyone think that the leftists/globalists/marxists aren't going to keep Trump from running, regardless of what they have to do to him is dreaming.

They are after him, they've been after him and their corruption is so deep that I just don't see how he's going to escape charges.  Witch hunt or no witch hunt, right or wrong, they aren't going to stop. 

Trump has money to fight them now, but his past lawyers and defense team have been less than adequate.  At best the leftists are going to try to exhaust most of his money and keep him tied up in court.

Prayers up for President Trump and may God have mercy on this country.

He's got plenty of money to fight these charges.  If he can't hire good lawyers, that's on him.

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He's got plenty of money to fight these charges.  If he can't hire good lawyers, that's on him.

No he doesn't hire good lawyers.  Giuliani was a nightmare for him, just as one example.

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He's got plenty of money to fight these charges.  If he can't hire good lawyers, that's on him.

Trump being the grifter he is will put the arm on his donors to foot his legal bills.
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BREAKING: Biden DOJ notifies President Trump that he will be indicted next week.

Indicted for what?  What crime are they charging him with?
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It's really frightening that there are those who walk among us masquerading as "constitutional conservatives" blaming the target for not having the legal or political right to fire those across all federal agencies and Congress who are investigating him ---- and to do so dripping with such moral superiority.

It is really pathetic that there are those who walk among us who not only intentionally ignore the fact that Constitutional Conservatives have defended Trump at every turn against the tyranny of those who have thwarted the very foundations of our Constitution for the sole purpose of political gain, but who also continuously reiterate false narratives against them.
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That does sound bad for Trump.

Yes, it does. Trump's mouth was his undoing.

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Indicted for what?  What crime are they charging him with?

The posted video above: https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,502029.msg2845267.html#msg2845267

Spells it out pretty clearly. It sounds like Trump blew himself up breaking his attorney client privilege.

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The posted video above: https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,502029.msg2845267.html#msg2845267

Spells it out pretty clearly. It sounds like Trump blew himself up breaking his attorney client privilege.

That is a very tall stretch.  If I am following it correctly, he told someone on tape back in July 2021 that he had a top secret document.  But later, he told his lawyers that there were no more classified documents in his possession.  Not seeing a problem here.  In order to compel his lawyers to testify, one would have to prove first of all that Trump was telling the truth in 2021 which is going to be quite a feat for any prosecutor insisting that Trump is a liar.  And secondly, one must prove that the referenced document was still in his possession after he informed his lawyers that no more classified documents were in his possession.

Keep in mind that Trump already acknowledged to the National Archives that he did in fact have classified documents at the Mar-A-Lago residence, which is why he had to get the special locks and store room.  So there is nothing here that would force his lawyers to testify against him.

And of course that still doesn't answer the question.  What crime is he being indicted for?
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Feds inform Trump he is target likely to be indicted
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Feds inform Trump he is target likely to be indicted 

     

Federal prosecutors have notified Donald Trump that he is a criminal target and likely to be indicted imminently in a probe into alleged classified documents – even as the Justice Department declined to delay charges to give time to investigate allegations of witness tampering submitted by the former president’s legal team, according to multiple people on Wednesday familiar with the case.

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That is a very tall stretch.  If I am following it correctly, he told someone on tape back in July 2021 that he had a top secret document.  But later, he told his lawyers that there were no more classified documents in his possession.  Not seeing a problem here.  In order to compel his lawyers to testify, one would have to prove first of all that Trump was telling the truth in 2021 which is going to be quite a feat for any prosecutor insisting that Trump is a liar.  And secondly, one must prove that the referenced document was still in his possession after he informed his lawyers that no more classified documents were in his possession.

Keep in mind that Trump already acknowledged to the National Archives that he did in fact have classified documents at the Mar-A-Lago residence, which is why he had to get the special locks and store room.  So there is nothing here that would force his lawyers to testify against him.

And of course that still doesn't answer the question.  What crime is he being indicted for?

Apparently NDI documents are illegal to be in possession of outside a government secure area period. The law is different for NDI documents verses classified documents. The government was asking for it while Trump was saying he didn't have it through his lawyers. And then on tape he claimed to have it. If you lie to your lawyers putting them in legal jeopardy, attorney client privilege is lost. That's the overall claim. Obviously I'm not a lawyer...

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Apparently NDI documents are illegal to be in possession of outside a government secure area period. The law is different for NDI documents verses classified documents. The government was asking for it while Trump was saying he didn't have it through his lawyers. And then on tape he claimed to have it. If you lie to your lawyers putting them in legal jeopardy, attorney client privilege is lost. That's the overall claim. Obviously I'm not a lawyer...

There's a problem with that timeline.  It wasn't until later that year that Trump's lawyers responded to the original National Archives request, and in that response, they admitted that Trump had some of the documents they were receiving.  Thus there is no contradiction between the July 2021 taped conversation and what his lawyers told the National Archives after the Mar-A-Lago raid.

So now we're back to the original 'charge' that Trump had classified documents in his possession at his Mar-A-Lago residence - documents delivered to his residence by the GSA.  Trump's counsel admitted this circumstance to the National Archives.  The National Archives sent their representatives to Mar-A-Lago to catalog those records.  They instructed Trump and his Secret Service detail to safeguard the room they were stored in with an extra layer of security (which they did).  So can they charge him with possessing classified documents outside of the White House?  Sure, they could have done that two years ago, just as with Biden, Pence, etc.  But that would place focus on Biden who is far more guilty of it than Trump.
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Yes, it does. Trump's mouth was his undoing.

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There's a problem with that timeline.  It wasn't until later that year that Trump's lawyers responded to the original National Archives request, and in that response, they admitted that Trump had some of the documents they were receiving.  Thus there is no contradiction between the July 2021 taped conversation and what his lawyers told the National Archives after the Mar-A-Lago raid.

So now we're back to the original 'charge' that Trump had classified documents in his possession at his Mar-A-Lago residence - documents delivered to his residence by the GSA.  Trump's counsel admitted this circumstance to the National Archives.  The National Archives sent their representatives to Mar-A-Lago to catalog those records.  They instructed Trump and his Secret Service detail to safeguard the room they were stored in with an extra layer of security (which they did).  So can they charge him with possessing classified documents outside of the White House?  Sure, they could have done that two years ago, just as with Biden, Pence, etc.  But that would place focus on Biden who is far more guilty of it than Trump.

The NDI documents may have nothing to do with the National Archives.

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The NDI documents may have nothing to do with the National Archives.

Yeah, I get that.  It is completely unrelated to this latest legal pole vault attempt.  But it will be difficult for the Biden regime to go after Trump on NDI when Biden is guilty of far worse infractions.
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This may be the basis of this latest attack angle:


Mark Meadows Flips On Trump, Agrees To Plead Guilty To Federal Charges In Exchange For Immunity Deal: Report

David Hawkins  |  June 7, 2023  |  4:47 pm


Former President Donald Trump’s ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has reportedly flipped on his old boss and will take a plea deal with the Department of Justice in exchange for immunity.

Prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Trump for violating US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defense.” They will reportedly ask grand jurors to vote on Trump’s indictment tomorrow.

The report goes on to say the use of Section 793 is a possible end around for the Feds to try to kneecap Trump’s obvious defense that he used his authority as president to declassify the documents he removed from the White House. If so Trump will take this to SCOTUS.

That section states that anyone who “lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document relating to the national defence, and willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it can be punished by as many as ten years in prison.”  .  .  .

https://slaynews.com/news/mark-meadows-flips-on-trump-agrees-to-plead-guilty-to-federal-charges-in-exchange-for-immunity-deal-report/



Knowing the abysmal track record of the FBI involving people who have pled guilty in the Jan 6 false flag operation, it would shock the heck out of me if Mark Meadows chose to cut a deal with these scumbags.  I don't believe this story for a second.  But if it were true, it would have led to the Trump indictment story.  Another fake news fakeout.
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We should know soon.