Author Topic: Ukraine 4  (Read 519514 times)

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,351
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2100 on: December 29, 2023, 07:57:20 am »
Thousands of troops remain deployed in response to Ukraine war

NavyTimes By Meghann Myers 12/16/2023

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/12/26/thousands-of-troops-remain-deployed-in-response-to-ukraine-war/

In early 2022, the Defense Department activated roughly 20,000 troops in Europe to support NATO as Russia invaded Ukraine. Going into 2024, troops are still on rotating deployments for that mission.

Deployed personnel include those from brigade combat teams in Romania and Poland. There are also plans to increase the Navy’s presence in Rota, Spain, a Pentagon spokesman told Military Times.

“Given the current security environment, there are no immediate plans to reduce these forces,” Army Maj. Charlie Dietz said.

Without a separate named operation, the increased rotations have been absorbed into the larger Operation Atlantic Resolve, which has been sending rotations into Europe since Russia invaded the Crimea region of Ukraine in 2014.

“Over the past two years, the United States has made strategic decisions to enhance our military presence and capabilities,” Dietz said. “This includes an increase in NATO exercises and supportive operations with various allies and partners. Currently, there are no plans for a surge in additional capabilities, as our assessment indicates that we have appropriately sized and deployed forces.”

In addition to partnering with allies in the Baltics, Poland and Hungary, U.S. troops have set up a long-term assistance command in Germany to help coordinate rotations of training with Ukrainian troops.

Offline Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,351
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2101 on: December 30, 2023, 02:37:20 pm »
OSINTdefender
@sentdefender

Russia has called for an Emergency Meeting of the U.N. Security Council today to discuss the “Ukrainian Attack” launched against the City of Belgorod which they claim was caused by Britain and the United States’s support for Ukraine; they further requested that the Representative from Czechia attend the Meeting due to their claim that Czech Rockets were used in the Attack, however the Representative has Refused stating that they will only attend a Meeting to discuss Russian Forces leaving Ukraine.

Offline Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,351
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2102 on: December 30, 2023, 02:40:20 pm »
WORLD AT WAR
@World_At_War_6

Ukraine is tired of Russia attacking civilian targets in Ukraine. It will lead to Russian cities and infrastructure becoming legitimate targets.

This will lead to an escalation!

Ukraine has deliberately chosen not to attack certain targets in Russia to avoid an escalation. That barrier is gone now.

Bad things coming 🔥

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2103 on: December 30, 2023, 02:40:35 pm »
OSINTdefender
@sentdefender

Russia has called for an Emergency Meeting of the U.N. Security Council today to discuss the “Ukrainian Attack” launched against the City of Belgorod which they claim was caused by Britain and the United States’s support for Ukraine; they further requested that the Representative from Czechia attend the Meeting due to their claim that Czech Rockets were used in the Attack, however the Representative has Refused stating that they will only attend a Meeting to discuss Russian Forces leaving Ukraine.

Good.  Ukraine made an impact on Russia.  Putin got butt-hurt.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Elderberry

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,351
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2104 on: December 30, 2023, 02:43:09 pm »
OSINTdefender
@sentdefender

Several Explosions have Rocked the City of Belgorod in Western Russia today causing the Death of 10 Civilains and the Injury of at least 45 others, a Movie Theater, Skating Rink, Christmas Market, as well as a number of other Buildings were Damage by the Explosions with the Cause still being Debated; the Russian Ministry of Defense has claimed that the Explosions were caused by a Ukrainian Attack using Czech-Made MLRS Rockets, while Ukrainian Sources have claiming that they were caused by S-300 Air Defense Missiles used by the Russian Armed Forces which either Malfunctioned or Intentional were used to Strike the City.


https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1741165520852844787

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2106 on: December 30, 2023, 06:11:57 pm »
WORLD AT WAR
@World_At_War_6

Ukraine is tired of Russia attacking civilian targets in Ukraine. It will lead to Russian cities and infrastructure becoming legitimate targets.

This will lead to an escalation!

Ukraine has deliberately chosen not to attack certain targets in Russia to avoid an escalation. That barrier is gone now.

Bad things coming 🔥

@Elderberry

I fear you are right,and I can only see two things that will stop it.

Number 1: Putin is removed from power and replaced with someone sane.

Number 2: Putin nukes Ukraine because his ego tells him he is the Master of the Universe,and setbacks and losses are beneath him.

I honestly  don't know enough about the "Russia of today" to even guess what will happen if Ukraine starts targetting Moscow with (NON-nuclear) missiles. I AM positive that Putin will respond like any other madman would respond and order a nuclear response to even a non-nuclear attack.

I SUSPECT there are sane people in senior Soviet leadership positions that would order him arrested if he ever gave such  an order,but that suspicion is based more on hope than reason because I honestly don't even know  enough to guess.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2107 on: December 30, 2023, 06:14:04 pm »
Good.  Ukraine made an impact on Russia.  Putin got butt-hurt.

@Hoodat

Personally,I would much prefer to see live video of him hanging by the neck  from the Kremlin walls,with the birds and maggots  feasting on the remains.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Online 240B

  • Lord of all things Orange!
  • TBR Advisory Committee
  • ***
  • Posts: 20,980
  • I refuse to be obstinate!
    • I try my best ...
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2108 on: December 30, 2023, 06:37:58 pm »
Russia's casualty toll in Ukraine war will top half a million dead or wounded by 2025, UK says after Putin's deadly missile barrage killed at least 39 civilians

DailyMail
By JAMES CALLERY
30 December 2023
  • Defence Secretary Grant Shapps compared the scale of death and injury to the nine-year Soviet-Afghan war
(more)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12912171/Russia-casualty-toll-ukraine-putin-missile-barrage.html
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2110 on: December 31, 2023, 03:09:59 am »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline kevindavis007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,362
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2111 on: December 31, 2023, 11:19:00 am »
Russia's casualty toll in Ukraine war will top half a million dead or wounded by 2025, UK says after Putin's deadly missile barrage killed at least 39 civilians

DailyMail
By JAMES CALLERY
30 December 2023
  • Defence Secretary Grant Shapps compared the scale of death and injury to the nine-year Soviet-Afghan war
(more)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12912171/Russia-casualty-toll-ukraine-putin-missile-barrage.html




But I thought that Putin was a swell guy.
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2112 on: January 01, 2024, 01:52:21 am »
Instead of 3 million rubles ($33000) for injury Russian conscript receives two buckets of carrots and a bag of onions

If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline kevindavis007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,362
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2113 on: January 01, 2024, 08:52:38 am »
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

Offline Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,129
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2114 on: January 01, 2024, 09:39:42 am »
This is true:



https://twitter.com/kevindavis338/status/1741818559435563219


Yeah, that cartoon says it all.  I'm very disappointed with Republicans in general, and many Conservatives in particular, who have adopted a misguided mindset of appeasement and neo-isolationism, and have deluded themselves into believing that a Russian victory in Ukraine will have no adverse consequences for the U.S. in the years to come.  It seems that they have all forgotten their history about what happened in the 1930s and how it all led to World War II.

And I am particularly disgusted with those who have actually embraced Putin (like Tucker Carlson) and cheer him on while he robs and rapes Ukraine.  What happened to Republicans who once cherished ideas of fighting for freedom and liberty, wherever it may be?  What would Reagan say about the current state of the Republican Party?  Does anybody remember his Solidarity speech in 1982?

https://www.history.com/speeches/reagan-supports-polands-solidarity-movement
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline kevindavis007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,362
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2115 on: January 01, 2024, 10:29:00 am »
Yeah, that cartoon says it all.  I'm very disappointed with Republicans in general, and many Conservatives in particular, who have adopted a misguided mindset of appeasement and neo-isolationism, and have deluded themselves into believing that a Russian victory in Ukraine will have no adverse consequences for the U.S. in the years to come.  It seems that they have all forgotten their history about what happened in the 1930s and how it all led to World War II.

And I am particularly disgusted with those who have actually embraced Putin (like Tucker Carlson) and cheer him on while he robs and rapes Ukraine.  What happened to Republicans who once cherished ideas of fighting for freedom and liberty, wherever it may be?  What would Reagan say about the current state of the Republican Party?  Does anybody remember his Solidarity speech in 1982?

https://www.history.com/speeches/reagan-supports-polands-solidarity-movement


Well, I think it has to do with the following factors:


1. The Paleocons and the Ron Paul supporters have infiltrated the GOP
2. Sour Grapism, a lot of people in the GOP are upset that Joe Biden and other Democrats are trying to help Ukraine. This is where I happen to agree with Joe Biden and no I don't like him.
3. This fake charade that Putin is a good Christian cause of his anti-Gay policies



It seems that history is repeating. Back in WWII, our untouched homeland played a key role in victory. But in another war, that advantage won't exist. If Russia prevails, China's Taiwan ambitions and North Korea's aggression towards South Korea could explode, leaving us in a far more vulnerable position.

I'm disgusted by people like Tucker Carlson and other 'patriots' who cozied up to Putin. This pro-Putin sentiment within the GOP is a betrayal of Reagan's legacy of strong global leadership. Imagine how he'd spin in his grave seeing the party embrace neo-isolationism and appease a tyrant like Putin. We can't let them drag us back down that path. We need to stand united against aggression and push for diplomatic solutions, now, before it's too late.

Look, I hate to say it, but the pro-Putin voices getting louder just feel... suspiciously convenient. Maybe it's just me, but I can't help but wonder if some folks aren't getting a helping hand from Moscow. Either way, this appeasement can't stand. We need to stand firm against Russia and its puppets before it's too late.











Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2116 on: January 01, 2024, 12:37:49 pm »
Yeah, that cartoon says it all.  I'm very disappointed with Republicans in general, and many Conservatives in particular, who have adopted a misguided mindset of appeasement and neo-isolationism, and have deluded themselves into believing that a Russian victory in Ukraine will have no adverse consequences for the U.S. in the years to come.  It seems that they have all forgotten their history about what happened in the 1930s and how it all led to World War II.

And I am particularly disgusted with those who have actually embraced Putin (like Tucker Carlson) and cheer him on while he robs and rapes Ukraine.  What happened to Republicans who once cherished ideas of fighting for freedom and liberty, wherever it may be?  What would Reagan say about the current state of the Republican Party?  Does anybody remember his Solidarity speech in 1982?

https://www.history.com/speeches/reagan-supports-polands-solidarity-movement

@Timber Rattler

Thank you for saying this better than I could have.

I will only  add that I am more than disappointed. I am mad as hell. HERE is the our only chance to eliminate communist dictatorship  in the USSR,and our (alleged) leaders don't have the stones necessary to do it.

Hell,they don't even have the stones necessary to support the people who ARE doing it by contributing arms and ammunition.

Just think,if Communism were overthrown in Russia,the only Communists to exist would be in China,LA,Mn,or NYC.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2117 on: January 01, 2024, 12:39:50 pm »

Well, I think it has to do with the following factors:


1. The Paleocons and the Ron Paul supporters have infiltrated the GOP
2. Sour Grapism, a lot of people in the GOP are upset that Joe Biden and other Democrats are trying to help Ukraine. This is where I happen to agree with Joe Biden and no I don't like him.
3. This fake charade that Putin is a good Christian cause of his anti-Gay policies

There are actually US Citizens claiming that Putin is a Christian???????

That says more about them than it does Putin.



It seems that history is repeating. Back in WWII, our untouched homeland played a key role in victory. But in another war, that advantage won't exist. If Russia prevails, China's Taiwan ambitions and North Korea's aggression towards South Korea could explode, leaving us in a far more vulnerable position.

I'm disgusted by people like Tucker Carlson and other 'patriots' who cozied up to Putin. This pro-Putin sentiment within the GOP is a betrayal of Reagan's legacy of strong global leadership. Imagine how he'd spin in his grave seeing the party embrace neo-isolationism and appease a tyrant like Putin. We can't let them drag us back down that path. We need to stand united against aggression and push for diplomatic solutions, now, before it's too late.

Look, I hate to say it, but the pro-Putin voices getting louder just feel... suspiciously convenient. Maybe it's just me, but I can't help but wonder if some folks aren't getting a helping hand from Moscow. Either way, this appeasement can't stand. We need to stand firm against Russia and its puppets before it's too late.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,129
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2118 on: January 01, 2024, 01:10:13 pm »
Look, I hate to say it, but the pro-Putin voices getting louder just feel... suspiciously convenient. Maybe it's just me, but I can't help but wonder if some folks aren't getting a helping hand from Moscow. Either way, this appeasement can't stand. We need to stand firm against Russia and its puppets before it's too late.

Yeah, I noticed that too...it all feels like astroturf.
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,129
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2119 on: January 01, 2024, 01:13:48 pm »

There are actually US Citizens claiming that Putin is a Christian???????

That says more about them than it does Putin.


Oh yeah, just check out any of the Ukraine War threads over at TOS, especially UMCRevMom's daily threads or SunkenCivs or Speed in Texas's, or any that I post.  Putin's cheerleading section there thinks that he's doing the Lord's work.
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2120 on: January 01, 2024, 01:20:20 pm »
This is true:

Is KevinDavis338 any relation to KevinDavis007?
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2121 on: January 01, 2024, 01:36:46 pm »
Oh yeah, just check out any of the Ukraine War threads over at TOS, especially UMCRevMom's daily threads or SunkenCivs or Speed in Texas's, or any that I post.  Putin's cheerleading section there thinks that he's doing the Lord's work.

@Timber Rattler

I'll take your word for it. Don't want to ruin my mood and end up with  a headache.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2122 on: January 04, 2024, 01:28:40 pm »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,129
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2125 on: January 05, 2024, 07:11:19 am »
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline catfish1957

  • The Conservative Carp Rapscallion of Brieferville
  • Political Researcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,399
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2126 on: January 05, 2024, 07:16:58 am »
I thught I kept hearing that Putin was dying.  What's the hold up?
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2127 on: January 05, 2024, 07:36:28 am »
But yet the Muscovites are complaining about the Israelis in Gaza.  Sheer hypocrisy!

@Timber Rattler

Truth to tell,I am not sure what is happening in Moscow now. I went there twice when Yeltsin was in office,and only met ONE Russian that still championed Communism,and he was an ancient WW-2 vet who was still wearing his medals on his  suit jacket.

It IS true that any Russian not in a labor camp can just turn on a radio (and maybe even a TV these days)and hear western
news reports and learn for themselves what their masters are doing,but don't forget,they ARE governed by "Masters",and anyone that steps out of line will not only pay for it,but if they crossed the "line" too far,their entire families will pay the price.

THIS is what keeps the typical Russian  "in line". LOTS of people are brave enough to question authority,but damn few are callous and angry  enough to put their entire families at risk.

As Stalin was quoted as saying "It doesn't matter WHO votes or who they vote for. What matters is  who  counts the votes."

Seems like the DNC right here in what used to be America are taking that to heart,doesn't it?

Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2128 on: January 05, 2024, 07:39:54 am »
I thught I kept hearing that Putin was dying.  What's the hold up?

@catfish1957

Thanks to a whore herd of bodyguards and the renewed Soviet controls,nobody can get close to him that isn't searched for weapons and guarded the whole time they are near him.

The bodyguards are loyal because they know what will happen to them AND their families if anything negative happens to their "Master",or even if an attempt is made that scares him.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline catfish1957

  • The Conservative Carp Rapscallion of Brieferville
  • Political Researcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,399
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2129 on: January 05, 2024, 07:42:22 am »
@catfish1957

Thanks to a whore herd of bodyguards and the renewed Soviet controls,nobody can get close to him that isn't searched for weapons and guarded the whole time they are near him.

The bodyguards are loyal because they know what will happen to them AND their families if anything negative happens to their "Master",or even if an attempt is made that scares him.

Understand his likely extensive web of security.  I was more alluding to that his health was failing, and rapidly at that,
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2130 on: January 05, 2024, 07:47:44 am »
Understand his likely extensive web of security.  I was more alluding to that his health was failing, and rapidly at that,

@catfish1957

Sorry!

I had forgotten all about that.

I suspect having access to "the best medical care available,regardless of the cost" might have helped him more than a little.

Who knows how many western doctors have flown into Moscow on Soviet airlines where they were the only passenger,and then treated like Royalty while they serviced the Soviet Royalty?

And even if his health is still failing,WHO in the USSR has the "stones" to spill the beans on him?
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,129
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2131 on: January 05, 2024, 09:11:57 am »
Understand his likely extensive web of security.  I was more alluding to that his health was failing, and rapidly at that,

Putin has several body doubles.  If you follow him long enough, you come to recognize them and their subtle differences in appearance, movements, and speech idiosyncracies.
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline GtHawk

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,958
  • Gender: Male
  • Well EXCUSE me!
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2132 on: January 05, 2024, 01:09:21 pm »
I thught I kept hearing that Putin was dying.  What's the hold up?
Maybe he's waiting for Joe to go first?

Offline kevindavis007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,362
  • Gender: Male
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

Offline kevindavis007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,362
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2134 on: January 06, 2024, 12:11:25 pm »
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2136 on: January 06, 2024, 02:13:57 pm »
Convicted sex offender and alleged military analyst delivering a pep talk to Russian mercenaries in Chechnya:


https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1743627014433587410
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2137 on: January 06, 2024, 02:33:50 pm »
Ukrainian Armed Forces destroy Russian ammunition depots, radars in Crimea

OLEKSANDRA ZIMKO  |  JANUARY 06, 2024 - 19:52


As a result of the actions of the Ukrainian Defense Forces in the temporarily occupied Crimea, on January 4, the Russian invaders' ammunition depots were destroyed and the positions of radar stations were damaged, reports the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine.

The military intelligence informed that on Thursday, January 4, a complex special operation was carried out in the territory of Russian-occupied Ukrainian Crimea.

It was conducted by the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine together with the state defense forces.

The targets of the attack were Russian radar positions at the airfield in Saki, as well as an ammunition depot near the village of Hryshyne.

"The occupiers in Crimea have lost ammunition depots and several radars... Space reconnaissance data confirms the successful fire damage of the Russian invaders' ammunition depot in Hryshyno," the statement said.  .  .  .

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/ukrainian-armed-forces-destroy-russian-ammunition-1704558987.html



This airstrike included piloted aircraft.  Pretty bold compared to what the Russians have been doing.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,129
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2138 on: January 06, 2024, 03:56:22 pm »
Convicted sex offender and alleged military analyst delivering a pep talk to Russian mercenaries in Chechnya:

OMG...that's hilarious!  What a joke he is! 
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2139 on: January 06, 2024, 05:55:02 pm »
Russian forces repeated failed tank assaults 7 times across the same kill zone and were destroyed each time, says report

Alia Shoaib  •  7h



A Russian armored column was attacked in a Ukrainian forest. Ministry of Defense of Ukraine/X
© Ministry of Defense of Ukraine/X


Russian forces repeatedly tried to commit a tank assault in the same part of a Ukrainian forest, despite being thwarted by Ukrainian forces every time, a report says.

There is visual evidence of at least seven failed Russian assaults through the same area in northeastern Ukraine between December 14 and 28, Forbes reported.

Drone footage published by Ukraine's defense department appears to show Russia's most recent failed assault.


https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1742872554010825164

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-forces-repeated-failed-tank-assaults-7-times-across-the-same-kill-zone-and-were-destroyed-each-time-says-report/ar-AA1mycuJ
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline kevindavis007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,362
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2141 on: January 07, 2024, 09:20:49 am »
Yet some people think that Russia is a good guy in this conflict


https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1743882945457164641?t=-nYIDCx_cNT6pmeevYqSRQ&s=19
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2142 on: January 07, 2024, 04:32:29 pm »
Yet some people think that Russia is a good guy in this conflict


https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1743882945457164641?t=-nYIDCx_cNT6pmeevYqSRQ&s=19

@kevindavis007

NO sane person with any knowledge of history thinks that.

I think these people are just "better Red than Dead" believers,and will say  and do anything to avoid a fight because the only thing they really care about is "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!"
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2143 on: January 07, 2024, 07:41:11 pm »
Yet some people think that Russia is a good guy in this conflict

@kevindavis007

NO sane person with any knowledge of history thinks that.

Well, there is that one poster here who refers to them as "liberators" and "protectors".
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2144 on: January 07, 2024, 08:03:57 pm »
@kevindavis007

NO sane person with any knowledge of history thinks that.


Well, there is that one poster here who refers to them as "liberators" and "protectors".

@Hoodat

ONE "surrender monkey poster" out of how many hundreds?
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline jafo2010

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,369
  • Dems-greatest existential threat to USA republic!
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2145 on: January 08, 2024, 06:46:39 am »
There are those in the USA that consider Trump as STILL in charge here, and refer to him and others as the WHITE HATS, fighting the good fight against Biden and his cabal.  They also believe Putin is fighting the good fight because Ukraine is the epi-center of child trafficking around the globe, also money laundering, etc, and he is there to liberate the children etc.

I think all of that is nonsense.  One of these truthers, one Phil Godlewski, who has over 12 million followers, perhaps larger now, believes in all this, along with the earth being flat.  He loses credibility with me when he starts talking about flat earth.

Bottomline, Putin has wanted to reunite the former USSR for a long time, and started with Ukraine.  I am certain he thought he would conquer Ukraine in just a few days.  Frankly, I never imagined they would last this long, but that is due to believing Russia was a stronger military force than they are.  It appears to me Russia is largely a paper tiger.

I see this war lasting about eight years, much like Afghanistan, when Russia will have depleted much of their treasury and be forced to call it quits.  It will end sooner if Putin is out of power.

But anyone holding their breath for the people to overthrow him, don't hold your breath.  And the folks wondering about his health, don't hold your breath for that either.  Putin is not a heavy drinker like the stereotypical Russian to my knowledge, gets exercise, and I expect him to live well into his 80s. 

That means this war goes on and on.  He does not care if multiple millions of Russian men die, for they are all expendable.

Because everything is completely controlled in Russia, the people do not have any freedom of free thought.  They are told what to think, and they do not step out of line, they do not question ANYTHING.  And with the prisons emptied out and the men sent to Ukraine to fight for their freedom, Russia has lots of room in their prisons for new occupants.




« Last Edit: January 08, 2024, 06:48:01 am by jafo2010 »

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2146 on: January 08, 2024, 07:40:49 am »

Quote
Bottomline, Putin has wanted to reunite the former USSR for a long time, and started with Ukraine.  I am certain he thought he would conquer Ukraine in just a few days.


@jafo2010

Of course he did. He THINKS he is a military genius because he wore a military uniform,but the truth is he was never in the REAL Soviet Army. He was a intel weasel,based in East Germany,and in charge of running spies and trying to undermine western Europe.

 Or at least that was his most prominent posting.

Quote
Frankly, I never imagined they would last this long, but that is due to believing Russia was a stronger military force than they are.  It appears to me Russia is largely a paper tiger.

You ain't by yourself. The Soviets had me fooled,too. I figured it would basically be a "walk-through with minimum resistance". My admiration for the courage and conviction of the Ukrainians is through the roof. After all,nobody alive today in Ukraine even lived in a "Free Ukraine",and few probably even had a concept of what that would be like. For all their lives Ukraine had been a "Vassal State buffer zone" between the west and the USSR.

Quote
I see this war lasting about eight years, much like Afghanistan, when Russia will have depleted much of their treasury and be forced to call it quits.  It will end sooner if Putin is out of power.

I dunno  about 8 years one way or the other,but I am in total agreement with the rest of it. In fact,I SUSPECT it will only end when the senior Generals in Russia decide to call it quits and pull a coup to remove him from power,or he dies from natural causes. Whichever comes first,because we all KNOW that at this point it is impossible for Putin to back off and remain in power. Maybe even to remain alive,because if "Mother Russia" gets her ass whupped by a subject little nation like Ukraine,what are the rest of the "vassal states" going to do if not think that they too can live free?

I am seriously  hoping that there are senior Generals in the Red Army that are considering removing him from power before other vassal nations decide "Hey! If Ukraine can do this,so can we!" When/IF that happens,Russia is OVER as a major power nation.

Chances are it might be the straw that convinces China to make an invasion move on the oil and gold in Siberia. After all,the Russian Army will be/maybe already is,too weak to resist the invasion of hordes of charging Chinese.

There HAS to be some high-ranking Russian General Officers thinking about this.


Quote
But anyone holding their breath for the people to overthrow him, don't hold your breath.  And the folks wondering about his health, don't hold your breath for that either.  Putin is not a heavy drinker like the stereotypical Russian to my knowledge, gets exercise, and I expect him to live well into his 80s. 

I don't know about his health,but I do know that ALL the power in Russia flows through the Russian military. When the Generals get together and decide it is time for Putin to go,he goes. He MIGHT be allowed to flee with his yacht and millions,but it is more likely he will be executed. Maybe even in public,as "The traitor that destroyed The Soviet Union".


Quote
That means this war goes on and on.  He does not care if multiple millions of Russian men die, for they are all expendable.

Agreed. Like all "Maximum Leaders",it is all about "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!". Nothing  and no else matters.


Quote
Because everything is completely controlled in Russia, the people do not have any freedom of free thought.  They are told what to think, and they do not step out of line, they do not question ANYTHING.  And with the prisons emptied out and the men sent to Ukraine to fight for their freedom, Russia has lots of room in their prisons for new occupants.

There is not one person living in Russia that has lived there their whole lives that knows what it is like to live free. They are ALL "tools of the Kremlin and expendable",and they know it. Not even the Generals. ALL power flows from the top down.

Kinda like the wet dreams of the DNC.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2024, 07:47:35 am by sneakypete »
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,379
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2147 on: January 08, 2024, 09:54:23 am »
Russia is firing everything it has at Ukraine right now. Cruise missiles from bombers, sea-launched cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, hypersonic missiles, suicide drones & S-300 missiles against Kharkiv. They are going after the energy grid

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1744235518953488770
"The spirit of Kukluxism will not die out so long as the Democrat party exists to sympathize with that spirit."
-- Gerrit Smith

Offline mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,379
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2148 on: January 08, 2024, 09:55:35 am »
OMG...that's hilarious!  What a joke he is!
Yeah, the idea of "friendship" between the USA and Chechnya is just a little crazy. Good grief.
"The spirit of Kukluxism will not die out so long as the Democrat party exists to sympathize with that spirit."
-- Gerrit Smith

Offline mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,379
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2149 on: January 08, 2024, 09:57:06 am »
Yet some people think that Russia is a good guy in this conflict
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
Russian missile strikes Ukrainian hospital during surgery


Just as evil as what Bill Clinton did to Serbia. Our missiles there took out a maternity hospital.
"The spirit of Kukluxism will not die out so long as the Democrat party exists to sympathize with that spirit."
-- Gerrit Smith