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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1101 on: July 26, 2023, 11:53:58 pm »
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« Reply #1102 on: July 27, 2023, 03:34:54 pm »
Something seems to be happening today...

Russia abruptly fired a front-line general, and now Ukraine is seizing the moment to punch through the defenses he had overseen

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-abruptly-fired-a-front-line-general-and-now-ukraine-is-seizing-the-moment-to-punch-through-the-defenses-he-had-overseen/ar-AA1eoY1N?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2c701bbbbf154c63a43bf24255b400a4&ei=15

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Ukrainian forces reportedly launched a massive push against Russia's front-lines in the country's southeastern Zaporizhzhia region, threatening Russian positions that had been overseen by a general who was recently fired.

The surge marks a dramatic change in pace for Ukraine's ongoing counteroffensive. For nearly two months, Kyiv's troops were forced to make slow and steady advances to liberate occupied territory as they faced Russia's formidable defensive lines, which include deadly networks of trenches, barbed wire, anti-armor obstacles, and minefields.

Clearing the Russian fortifications — particularly the minefields — has been a painstaking process for Ukraine, which managed to preserve lots of its firepower and combat capabilities, such as heavy armor provided by the US and its NATO allies. But it now seems as though Kyiv has committed significantly more resources into the fight.

Pentagon officials told the New York Times on Wednesday that Ukraine has poured thousands of reinforcements — many who have been trained and outfitted by Western countries — into battle along the Zaporizhzhia axis, which is one of several locations along the several-hundred-miles-long front line where Kyiv is fighting.

The sheer scale of this thrust as reported suggests a main attack has begun, coming after weeks of probing attacks and mineclearing that suggests Ukraine's war commanders think they've found a vulnerable spot in Russia's formidable defenses. The fired Russian general had demanded changes after suffering losses in artillery battles with Ukraine that were crucial to holding their defensive lines.

According to the US officials, Ukraine has expressed a desire to press south toward the occupied city of Melitopol, near the Sea of Azov. Doing so would allow Kyiv's military to split the territory that Russia currently occupies and threaten its hold on the Crimean peninsula.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1103 on: July 27, 2023, 07:47:01 pm »
Ukrainian troops 'break through Russian defences' to capture village of Staromaiorske

Michael Drummond  |  27 July 2023  |  22:38, UK


A Ukrainian official tweeted a video of troops holding a flag in the settlement, located about halfway between Mariupol and Zaporizhzhia in the country's southeast.

"The 35th brigade and the 'Ariy' territorial defence unit have fulfilled their task and liberated the village of Staromaiorske. Glory to Ukraine!" said a soldier in the video.

Staromaiorske lies to the south of a number of small settlements that Ukraine has recaptured during its counteroffensive, which began in June.  .  .

https://news.sky.com/story/ukrainian-troops-break-through-russian-defences-to-capture-village-of-staromaiorske-12928398
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1104 on: July 28, 2023, 09:36:36 am »
Ukrainian troops 'break through Russian defences' to capture village of Staromaiorske

Michael Drummond  |  27 July 2023  |  22:38, UK


A Ukrainian official tweeted a video of troops holding a flag in the settlement, located about halfway between Mariupol and Zaporizhzhia in the country's southeast.

"The 35th brigade and the 'Ariy' territorial defence unit have fulfilled their task and liberated the village of Staromaiorske. Glory to Ukraine!" said a soldier in the video.

Staromaiorske lies to the south of a number of small settlements that Ukraine has recaptured during its counteroffensive, which began in June.  .  .

https://news.sky.com/story/ukrainian-troops-break-through-russian-defences-to-capture-village-of-staromaiorske-12928398


It'll be a great day when the UFA breaks through to the Sea of Azov, splitting the orcs' forces.  The UFA is better equipped, better trained and better led than the enemy, and will in time prevail.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1105 on: July 28, 2023, 09:38:06 am »
Something seems to be happening today...

Russia abruptly fired a front-line general, and now Ukraine is seizing the moment to punch through the defenses he had overseen

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-abruptly-fired-a-front-line-general-and-now-ukraine-is-seizing-the-moment-to-punch-through-the-defenses-he-had-overseen/ar-AA1eoY1N?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2c701bbbbf154c63a43bf24255b400a4&ei=15

Great to see... It was only a matter of time before the UFA probing actions would produce a weak point to exploit. 

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« Reply #1106 on: July 28, 2023, 10:29:25 am »
Staromaiorske is a small town or village (the article uses the word "settlement"). The article describes it as, "about halfway between Mariupol and Zaporizhzhia". It is also about halfway between Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia. So this penetration threatens both. Mariupol is probably of greater strategic importance, as penetrating to that city, captured or not, would cut land supply routes to the Crimean Peninsula. The Russians would be limited to whatever, if anything, the damaged Kerch Strait Bridge could handle plus ships to Sevastopol, also risky. OTOH, penetrating to Donetsk would widen the area of the Black Sea north shore being threatened by Ukrainian guns and forces, making supply logistics to the Crimean Peninsula even more risky and tenuous (the threatened line would grow from Melitopol-Berdyansk-Mariupol to Melitopol-Berdyansk-Mariupol-Taganrog, about 40% longer).
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1107 on: July 28, 2023, 10:44:16 am »
Ukrainian forces press southward, say strategic village recaptured from Russians

By Reuters
July 28, 2023

Ukrainian forces pressed their counteroffensive through the Russian-occupied southeast on Thursday, capturing the village of Staromaiorske in a campaign to drive a wedge through Russian defensive positions.

The counteroffensive has focused on securing villages on the southward push and areas around the eastern city of Bakhmut, taken by Russian forces in May after months of battles.

Ukrainian officials have reported slow, steady progress.

Russian President Vladimir Putin acknowledged intensified Ukrainian attacks over the last few days, but said they had made no headway.

He told Russian television that every Ukrainian assault had been beaten back, and that Moscow’s forces had inflicted significant losses on their opponents.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/ukraine-presses-southward-say-village-recaptured-from-russia/

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1108 on: July 28, 2023, 01:36:53 pm »
Russian President Vladimir Putin acknowledged intensified Ukrainian attacks over the last few days, but said they had made no headway.

He told Russian television that every Ukrainian assault had been beaten back, and that Moscow’s forces had inflicted significant losses on their opponents.

The diminutive little KGB thug lives in a propaganda bubble, because no one shall dare give him the real picture.  That brings a one-way trip out a 10th-story window. 

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1109 on: July 28, 2023, 01:44:26 pm »
Staromaiorske doesn't look to be all that far south - a rather minor advance.


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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1110 on: July 28, 2023, 04:16:33 pm »
Russia blames Ukraine for missile strike on border city, pounds key village

By Snejana Farberov
July 28, 2023

The Kremlin accused Kyiv of firing a missile at a Russian city near the Ukrainian border that wounded 15 people and threatened retaliation – as Moscow’s forces pounded a strategically important village that had just been recaptured by Ukraine.

Russian air defense shot down a Ukrainian missile over the city of Taganrog in the Rostov region, located less than 25 miles east of the Ukrainian border, reported the Russian Defense Ministry.

Debris from the missile landed in the center of the city, leaving 15 people injured, according to local officials, who reported no fatalities.

Rostov regional Gov. Vasily Golubev said on Telegram that a café and a museum had been damaged in Taganrog, and that the windows of an apartment building had been blown out on impact.

Videos taken at the scene showed a part of a building lying in ruins.

A second missile was intercepted by air defenses elsewhere in the region, but it fell in a deserted area without causing any harm, Golubev added.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/russia-blames-ukraine-for-missile-strike-on-border-city/

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« Reply #1111 on: July 28, 2023, 04:57:05 pm »
On one hand, Taganrog is about 35 miles inside Russia. On the other hand, Taganrog is on the main highway that would be used to supply the orcs occupying Crimea and the Kherson and Zaporizhia Oblasts. It's a valid military logistics target. Unlike, for example, the cities of Kyiv and Lviv, which are far from any front (Lviv is on the other side of Ukraine, near Poland!).
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1112 on: July 28, 2023, 07:39:57 pm »
Great to see... It was only a matter of time before the UFA probing actions would produce a weak point to exploit.

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It's also a matter of time before the USSR runs out of Generals to place the blame on and fire,and we suddenly start seeing "Generals" too young to shave.

I know the Soviets are about as dogmatic as people get,but sooner or later even  the most devout Soviet General Officer is going to have to start muttering things about "revolution" before the USSR is so lacking in General officers and experienced NCO's they can't defend Russia against an attack  by a  Boy Scout Troop.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1113 on: July 28, 2023, 08:40:56 pm »
@ScottinVA

It's also a matter of time before the USSR runs out of Generals to place the blame on and fire,and we suddenly start seeing "Generals" too young to shave.

I know the Soviets are about as dogmatic as people get,but sooner or later even  the most devout Soviet General Officer is going to have to start muttering things about "revolution" before the USSR is so lacking in General officers and experienced NCO's they can't defend Russia against an attack  by a  Boy Scout Troop.

I couldn’t agree more.  The Soviets are already drawing from border patrols to augment their quagmire in Ukraine.  Their propaganda stated “demilitarization” of Ukraine as a rationale for invading.  Instead, the orcs are demilitarizing themselves.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1114 on: July 28, 2023, 11:48:31 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1115 on: July 29, 2023, 12:03:54 am »
The Kremlin accused Kyiv of firing a missile at a Russian city

Oh, that's rich.



Russia launches ninth wave of missile attacks on Kyiv this month

Adam Durbin and James Landale  |  18 May


Ukraine's capital Kyiv has been attacked from the air by Russia for the ninth time this month.

Kyiv's authorities said it seemed all incoming missiles had been destroyed, but debris falling from the air caused some damage in two districts.

One person has been killed and two more wounded in a missile strike on the Black Sea port of Odesa, officials say.

Blasts were also heard in the central-western regions of Vinnytsia, Khmelnytsky and Zhytomyr.  .  .  .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65630022
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1116 on: July 29, 2023, 03:32:09 pm »
July 29, 2023
Ukraine Uses North Korean Rockets to Blast Russian Forces

Ukrainian soldiers were observed using North Korean rockets that they said were seized by a "friendly" country before being delivered to Ukraine, the Financial Times reported on Saturday.

Ukraine's defense ministry suggested the arms were captured from the Russians, the newspaper said.

The United States has accused North Korea of providing arms to Russia, including alleged shipments by sea, but has not offered proof and North Korean weapons have not been widely observed on the battlefields in Ukraine.  ... Newsmax



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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1117 on: July 29, 2023, 04:11:21 pm »
The US should send to Ukraine Iranian arms seized enroute to Iran's Yemeni proxies and to the Arab Palis for use against Israel.
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« Reply #1118 on: July 30, 2023, 02:13:24 pm »
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« Reply #1119 on: July 30, 2023, 03:20:03 pm »
More empty threat saber rattling by a drunkard.
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« Reply #1120 on: July 30, 2023, 06:12:43 pm »

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1685705394855841792

What a complete load of poop.

Putin announced early last year that Russia had formally annexed Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts.  Yet, Russia does not control the entirety of any of those four oblasts, and Ukraine in fact has been recovering territory in each of those four oblasts since that announcement, and is continuing to do so.  Which means Russia would have launched those nukes last year if this was true.

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« Reply #1121 on: July 30, 2023, 06:34:33 pm »

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1685705394855841792

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Empty threat meant to terrorize the west.

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« Reply #1122 on: July 30, 2023, 07:04:12 pm »
Zelensky says war ‘returning to Russia’ after Moscow drone attack

CNN by Josh Pennington, Mariya Knight, Zahra Ullah and Heather Chen 7/30/2023

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that war is “gradually returning” to Russia hours after the Kremlin accused Kyiv of targeting Moscow with drones, the latest in a series of attacks.

The Russian Defense Ministry said three drones were intercepted Sunday but a business and shopping development in the west of the capital was hit. The fifth and sixth floor of a 50-story building were damaged, and no casualties were reported, state news agency TASS reported.

Videos showed debris as well as emergency services at the scene.

“Ukraine is getting stronger, and the war is gradually returning to Russia’s territory, to its symbolic centers and military bases,” Zelensky said in his daily address. “This is an inevitable, natural, and absolutely fair.”

A spokesman for Ukraine’s Air Force said the latest drone attacks on Moscow were aimed at impacting Russians who, since the Kremlin invaded Ukraine in February 2022, felt the war was distant.

“There’s always something flying in Russia, as well as in Moscow. Now the war is affecting those who were not concerned,” the spokesman, Yurii Ihnat, said on Ukrainian television.

More: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/world/moscow-city-drone-attack-sunday-russia-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html

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« Reply #1123 on: July 30, 2023, 08:42:06 pm »
Zelensky says war ‘returning to Russia’ after Moscow drone attack

CNN by Josh Pennington, Mariya Knight, Zahra Ullah and Heather Chen 7/30/2023

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that war is “gradually returning” to Russia hours after the Kremlin accused Kyiv of targeting Moscow with drones, the latest in a series of attacks.

The Russian Defense Ministry said three drones were intercepted Sunday but a business and shopping development in the west of the capital was hit. The fifth and sixth floor of a 50-story building were damaged, and no casualties were reported, state news agency TASS reported.

Videos showed debris as well as emergency services at the scene.

“Ukraine is getting stronger, and the war is gradually returning to Russia’s territory, to its symbolic centers and military bases,” Zelensky said in his daily address. “This is an inevitable, natural, and absolutely fair.”

A spokesman for Ukraine’s Air Force said the latest drone attacks on Moscow were aimed at impacting Russians who, since the Kremlin invaded Ukraine in February 2022, felt the war was distant.

“There’s always something flying in Russia, as well as in Moscow. Now the war is affecting those who were not concerned,” the spokesman, Yurii Ihnat, said on Ukrainian television.

More: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/world/moscow-city-drone-attack-sunday-russia-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html


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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1125 on: July 31, 2023, 12:34:29 am »
Ukraine is getting stronger, and the war is gradually returning to Russia’s territory

That is an exact quote from Adolf Hitler in 1945
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« Reply #1126 on: July 31, 2023, 12:47:39 am »
Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland ...
They all mark this day
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« Reply #1127 on: July 31, 2023, 11:00:53 am »
Ukraine is getting stronger, and the war is gradually returning to Russia’s territory

That is an exact quote from Adolf Hitler in 1945

1. Got a source for that "quote"?

2. Were German forces even in any part of Ukraine in 1945 (= possible anachronistic fake "quote").

3. Stating a simple fact - Ukraine is advancing, liberating territory occupied by the Russians - makes Zelensky a Nazi? *****rollingeyes*****

4. Is it possible to discuss Russia's invasion of Ukraine without fulfilling Godwin's Law?

5. Could we stay well away from:

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1128 on: July 31, 2023, 11:08:03 am »
Ukraine is getting stronger, and the war is gradually returning to Russia’s territory

That is an exact quote from Adolf Hitler in 1945

If you have a source, please provide it, because a search does not indicate that Hitler ever said anything like that viz. Ukraine, nor that he said anything like that in 1945 viz. the Soviet Union's invasion of Germany.


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« Reply #1129 on: July 31, 2023, 12:37:04 pm »
Ukraine is getting stronger, and the war is gradually returning to Russia’s territory

That is an exact quote from Adolf Hitler in 1945

And your source for that is…. What?  “Moon of Alabama?” Scott Ritter? Douggie MacGregor?

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« Reply #1130 on: July 31, 2023, 12:57:49 pm »
If you have a source, please provide it, because a search does not indicate that Hitler ever said anything like that viz. Ukraine, nor that he said anything like that in 1945 viz. the Soviet Union's invasion of Germany.

Because of the Holodomor the Stalinist-government-created famine that starved to death 5-10 million Ukrainians, and other Stalinist oppression, had Hitler been less racist - Ukrainians are Slavic, not "Aryan" - he might have gotten many Ukrainian people's loyalty. IRL, Ukrainians initially welcomed German troops as liberators (because Holodomor, etc.), but when the Germans proved they came as oppressors, Ukrainians turned against the Germans.
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« Reply #1131 on: July 31, 2023, 01:12:16 pm »
If you have a source, please provide it, because a search does not indicate that Hitler ever said anything like that viz. Ukraine, nor that he said anything like that in 1945 viz. the Soviet Union's invasion of Germany.

I'm not super familiar with the WW2 Eastern Front, and it's less than easy to piece together the approximate frontline thereof in January 1945, but the Russians were well west of Ukraine, in Poland, Hungary, and south into the Balkan Peninsula (into modern Serbia and Bosnia-Herzegovina). So unless Hitler was VERY deep into Cloud CuckooLand he would not have been making claims in 1945 about fighting taking place in Ukraine.

Time to :goalpost: ?
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« Reply #1132 on: July 31, 2023, 03:45:34 pm »

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1685705394855841792

Can it be reasonably inferred from this threat that things are not going well for the Russian orcs? Especially in Zaporizhia and Donetsk Oblasts?
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« Reply #1133 on: July 31, 2023, 04:46:57 pm »
Can it be reasonably inferred from this threat that things are not going well for the Russian orcs? Especially in Zaporizhia and Donetsk Oblasts?



I certainly hope that is the case.

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« Reply #1134 on: July 31, 2023, 08:34:10 pm »
Ukraine is getting stronger, and the war is gradually returning to Russia’s territory.

That is an exact quote from Adolf Hitler in 1945.

No, it isn't.
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« Reply #1135 on: July 31, 2023, 08:37:11 pm »
And your source for that is…. What?  “Moon of Alabama?” Scott Ritter? Douggie MacGregor?

I'm guessing you're not going to get an answer to that one....

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« Reply #1136 on: August 01, 2023, 01:25:12 pm »
Ukraine tells Russia to expect 'more drones and more collapse' after skyscraper in Moscow is attacked for the second time in two days in clear sign of 'cracks in Putin's regime'

There have been several drone attacks on Russian soil as of late - but Kyiv has not commented on responsibility

By JAMES REYNOLDS and DAVID AVERRE
1 August 2023

Ukraine has told Russia to expect 'more unidentified drones, more collapse [and] more civil conflicts' after a skyscraper in Moscow was attacked for the second time in two days.

The strike this morning impacted an office block known as the IQ quarter in Moscow City - a commercial and business district in the capital - which houses the ministry of economic development, the digital ministry and the ministry of industry and trade.

Kyiv has not confirmed if it was behind the attack, but Zelensky on Sunday described it as the 'natural process' of war 'returning to Russia'.

Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said that citizens in Russia's capital are 'rapidly getting used to a fully-fledged war' as attacks on Russian soil mount.

He added: 'More unidentified drones, more collapse, more civil conflicts, more war.'

It comes as Nina Khrushcheva, the great-granddaughter of former Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev and a professor of international affairs at The New School in New York, told the BBC that the strikes on Moscow expose 'the cracks' in Vladimir Putin's regime.

'The despair is getting more prevalent, and I think it's going to be very hard, much harder now to pretend, at least in Moscow that the war is too far away,' she concluded.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12360811/Ukraine-tells-Russia-expect-drones-collapse-skyscraper-Moscow-attacked-second-time-two-days-clear-sign-cracks-Putins-regime.html

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« Reply #1137 on: August 01, 2023, 06:07:05 pm »
Ukrainian troops on front line admit Russians tougher than expected in ongoing counteroffensive

By Patrick Reilly
August 1, 2023

Ukrainian troops admitted that the Russians have put up a tougher fight than expected as they continue pushing into enemy-controlled territory.

Troops at the vanguard of Ukraine’s long-planned counteroffensive in the southeast region of the country said that a fierce battle last week revealed that the Russian troops are better prepared than originally anticipated.

“The Russians were waiting for us,” a 29-year-old soldier using the call-sign Bulat told Reuters in the Southern Donetsk Province.

“They fired anti-tank weapons and grenade launchers at us. My vehicle drove over an anti-tank mine, but everything was ok, the vehicle took the hit, and everyone was alive.”

Ukraine’s boldest counteroffensive yet is now in its third month. Last week’s battle of Staromaiorske gave an indication as to why the advance has been so slow — and bloody.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/01/ukrainian-troops-on-front-line-admit-russia-troops-tougher-than-expected-in-counteroffensive/

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« Reply #1138 on: August 01, 2023, 08:01:02 pm »
The Russians occupying Zaporizhia have had many months in which to establish multi-layered defenses, so the Ukrainians are going to find the going tough.
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« Reply #1139 on: August 01, 2023, 11:05:43 pm »
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« Reply #1140 on: August 02, 2023, 07:54:55 am »
I'm guessing you're not going to get an answer to that one....

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« Reply #1141 on: August 02, 2023, 10:39:55 am »
The Russians occupying Zaporizhia have had many months in which to establish multi-layered defenses, so the Ukrainians are going to find the going tough.

Yup.  And Russian troops have always been better on defense than offense.

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« Reply #1142 on: August 02, 2023, 11:37:29 am »
The drone attacks on Moscow were probably out of frustration for lack of Ukranian progress on the ground.

This is where Biden's ambivalence and delays in providing offensive weapons systems to the Ukrainians is having its negative impact upon Ukraine's offensive capabilities.

Overwhelming force and/or rapid advance is required to break through fortified defenses.  Airborne and amphibious forces are needed to bypass fortified positions.

Ukraine is at a disadvantage as long as it does not have air and naval superiority.

Ukraine cannot defeat the Russians with NATO half measures of supplying weapons systems.
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« Reply #1143 on: August 03, 2023, 12:29:05 pm »
The drone attacks on Moscow were probably out of frustration for lack of Ukranian progress on the ground.

The drone attacks in Moscow targeted technology offices where R&D on drone weaponry was taking place.  The attacks were directed at specific floors in specific high-rise buildings.
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« Reply #1144 on: August 03, 2023, 01:01:58 pm »
The drone attacks in Moscow targeted technology offices where R&D on drone weaponry was taking place.  The attacks were directed at specific floors in specific high-rise buildings.

And they were to show that the war is closer to home in Russia than the government media is reporting or can hide. That they are not nearly as untouchable as Putin is claiming.

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« Reply #1145 on: August 03, 2023, 01:47:23 pm »
And they were to show that the war is closer to home in Russia than the government media is reporting or can hide. That they are not nearly as untouchable as Putin is claiming.

@DB

Pooty-Poot ain't just claiming it,he believes it!

He has to because his only other option is suicide,and dying is for other people,NOT Soviet leaders.
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« Reply #1146 on: August 03, 2023, 02:37:25 pm »
The drone attacks in Moscow targeted technology offices where R&D on drone weaponry was taking place.  The attacks were directed at specific floors in specific high-rise buildings.

1. If Kyiv is a target for Russian missiles, bombs, and drones, Moscow is not sacrosanct.

2. If this drone attack did target the specific building and floors where Russian drone development and/or control was happening, Putin should be pretty nervous about the sorts of very specific knowledge Ukraine has.

3. Unlike Russian attacks on random civilian areas in Kyiv, Ukrainians drone attacks in Moscow have been more selective, aimed at targets of strategic value.
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« Reply #1147 on: August 03, 2023, 10:09:41 pm »
1. If Kyiv is a target for Russian missiles, bombs, and drones, Moscow is not sacrosanct.
F_ck around and find out ...
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« Reply #1148 on: August 03, 2023, 10:48:39 pm »
F_ck around and find out ...

@240B   @PeteS in CA

I am THINKING (and HOPING!) the Ukes will be VERY cautions about attacks on Moscow. The last thing they can afford to do is make Pooty-Poot desperate to prove his "macho manhood",and if drone hits start making the civilian body count in Moscow explode,the pressure will be on for "Macho Boy" to launch a few nukes. After all,that's about all he has left. He has pretty much already "used up" all his ally "volunteers",as well as Russian volunteers,and is already putting geezers and teens in uniform against their will,and handing them rifles.

I see the BEST case being what remains of the senior Soviet pols and Generals deciding to arrest Putin,call the troops back to Russia,and apologize to Ukraine for the "misunderstandings".

I just don't see that as being very likely at this point in time. It's going to take some major suffering by Soviet forces in Ukraine that gets international press that includes gory photos and film,and it's got to make the geezer Generals in Moscow nervous about their own positions and safety unless they step in and stop the war.

 
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« Reply #1149 on: August 03, 2023, 11:23:29 pm »

it's got to make the geezer Generals in Moscow nervous about their own positions

Being a general in Moskow is like strapping on a suicide bomb. It is only the tick tick tok until you suicide or fall off a balcony.
In terms of job viability, "Russian General" is not looking good.
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