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Clarence Thomas’s problems multiply at Supreme Court
« on: May 05, 2023, 09:44:22 am »
 Clarence Thomas’s problems multiply at Supreme Court
by Al Weaver and Zach Schonfeld - 05/05/23 5:45 AM ET

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is facing a fresh round of scrutiny after the third blockbuster report in less than a month links him financially to GOP megadonor Harlan Crow.

ProPublica reported Thursday that Crow, a Dallas-based real estate developer, paid thousands of dollars in tuition to a private boarding school for Thomas’s great-nephew, whom Thomas has said he raised “as a son.”

Federal ethics laws require the justices to report gifts given to a “dependent child,” but that term is defined to only include the justices’ children or stepchildren. Thomas’s allies have insisted the payment doesn’t violate the disclosure law since it was for Thomas’s sister’s grandson.

But the revelation has only added to the increasing pressure from Democrats for the justices to adopt a binding code of ethics.

“Today’s report continues a steady stream of revelations calling Justices’ ethics standards and practices into question. I hope that the Chief Justice understands that something must be done—the reputation and credibility of the Court is at stake,” Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said in a statement.

When asked during a SiriusXM interview about impeaching Thomas, however, Durbin said “no.” He noted that only one justice, Samuel Chase, had been impeached previously, and Chase was acquitted in the Senate in 1805.

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Re: Clarence Thomas’s problems multiply at Supreme Court
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2023, 09:45:38 am »
What about Sotomayor taking $3 million from a publisher that had a case before the court?

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Re: Clarence Thomas’s problems multiply at Supreme Court
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2023, 09:52:57 am »
What about Sotomayor taking $3 million from a publisher that had a case before the court?

What about Elena Kagan actively participating in litigation and then refusing to recuse after coming on the court?
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2023, 09:54:42 am »
What about Elena Kagan actively participating in litigation and then refusing to recuse after coming on the court?

That isn't as on-point as Sotomayor's situation, given that the allegations against Justice Thomas are that he was taking money to be influenced.  Sotomayor also took money; Kagan did not.

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2023, 09:58:47 am »
This is all part of a well-funded activist group assault, led by the Soros-funded ProPublica and spoon-fed to a friendly news media.   


Notice how everything is a "blockbuster!!!" - no matter how tendentious the reporting, and absent any evidence of actual corruption or wrongdoing.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2023, 10:00:37 am »
This is all part of a well-funded activist group assault, led by the Soros-funded ProPublica and spoon-fed to a friendly news media.   


Notice how everything is a "blockbuster!!!" - no matter how tendentious the reporting, and absent any evidence of actual corruption or wrongdoing.


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Re: Clarence Thomas’s problems multiply at Supreme Court
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2023, 10:02:16 am »
That isn't as on-point as Sotomayor's situation, given that the allegations against Justice Thomas are that he was taking money to be influenced.  Sotomayor also took money; Kagan did not.

Perhaps not. But there is still plenty. The difference is that they have been trying to get Thomas from day one and DID get Robert Bork while the other side gets no notice at all.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2023, 10:12:47 am »
This is all part of a well-funded activist group assault, led by the Soros-funded ProPublica and spoon-fed to a friendly news media.   


Notice how everything is a "blockbuster!!!" - no matter how tendentious the reporting, and absent any evidence of actual corruption or wrongdoing.

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2023, 10:53:01 am »
I hope these Justices reported this income on their taxes, or some IRS jack-booted thugs may be breaking down their doors.

But, this is another example of those in power not being held to account for things that would send unwashed deplorable hoi polloi masses to Federal prison.

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2023, 11:30:14 am »
I hope these Justices reported this income on their taxes, or some IRS jack-booted thugs may be breaking down their doors.

But, this is another example of those in power not being held to account for things that would send unwashed deplorable hoi polloi masses to Federal prison.

If you are a 21 year old Air National Guard member who posts Sensitive Goverment communications or documents on Discord, you're life is over.

If you are a befuddled octagenarian President or Presidential Candidate, you can illgeally store Sensitive Government documents in a box in the garage, next to your bitchin' Corvette, without repercussions.

Why would anyone in the World want to be a source for American intelligence agencies?

A 21 y.o. Air National Guard member who has been given security clearances, and has presumably signed a whole slew of nondisclosure agreements related to his work, should have known, to a certainty of 100%, that posting sensitive government information on discord would be a life-over situation.  No sympathy for that f**kwit whatsoever.

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2023, 12:13:46 pm »
The left wants total power and this is part of their plan. They want Biden to have carte blanche control over the government.

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2023, 12:17:32 pm »
The left wants total power and this is part of their plan. They want Biden to have carte blanche control over the government.

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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2023, 12:22:56 pm »
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ProPublica reported Thursday that Crow, a Dallas-based real estate developer, paid thousands of dollars in tuition to a private boarding school for Thomas’s great-nephew, whom Thomas has said he raised “as a son.”

Wow... Thomas's great nephew. Pretty scandalous there. /sarc

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2023, 12:50:19 pm »
Wow... Thomas's great nephew. Pretty scandalous there. /sarc


Yup.  And since that kid was not a "dependent child" with respect to Justice Thomas, no reporting was required.

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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2023, 01:44:09 pm »
The left wants total power and this is part of their plan. They want Biden to have carte blanche control over the government.

Just saying...
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Consider the source of this "news"...

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But the revelation has only added to the increasing pressure from Democrats for the justices to adopt a binding code of ethics.

Dims and ethics?????

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The truth is the left just can't stand the thought of a black man getting uppity and not following orders.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2023, 05:45:51 pm »
Dims and ethics?????

ROFLAMO!

The truth is the left just can't stand the thought of a black man getting uppity and not following orders.
He isn't whining about being a victim.

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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2023, 06:15:52 pm »
He isn't whining about being a victim.

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Ok.

Who said he was?
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2023, 08:31:09 pm »
@Smokin Joe

Ok.

Who said he was?
No one. That's the problem as far as the Dems are concerned. Here is an educated, intelligent, black man who didn't get where he is because of set-asides, quotas, or 'Equity' programs, but instead achieved through hard work and arrived in his position because of merit.
He is one of the best Justices of this century.

Which means any of the folks on the Democrat Plantation could do the same if they have the grit and determination.

THAT flies in the face of the entire song and dance the Democrats have been preaching for the last 60 years. Can't have that, can they?

Only thing they can do is try to tear down his accomplishments by trying to make them seem they were unfairly done. Which is why the whole character assassination campaign has been going from the git-go.
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2023, 08:34:52 pm »
No one. That's the problem as far as the Dems are concerned. Here is an educated, intelligent, black man who didn't get where he is because of set-asides, quotas, or 'Equity' programs, but instead achieved through hard work and arrived in his position because of merit.
He is one of the best Justices of this century.

Which means any of the folks on the Democrat Plantation could do the same if they have the grit and determination.

THAT flies in the face of the entire song and dance the Democrats have been preaching for the last 60 years. Can't have that, can they?

Only thing they can do is try to tear down his accomplishments by trying to make them seem they were unfairly done. Which is why the whole character assassination campaign has been going from the git-go.

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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2023, 08:58:06 pm »
What about Sotomayor taking $3 million from a publisher that had a case before the court?

What about two justices performing gay marriages while the issue was before them about the legality? Like Roy Moore rightfully pointed out, they sure didn't recuse themselves from the decision having shown their hand in being partial on the subject.
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No one. That's the problem as far as the Dems are concerned. Here is an educated, intelligent, black man who didn't get where he is because of set-asides, quotas, or 'Equity' programs, but instead achieved through hard work and arrived in his position because of merit.
He is one of the best Justices of this century.

Which means any of the folks on the Democrat Plantation could do the same if they have the grit and determination.

THAT flies in the face of the entire song and dance the Democrats have been preaching for the last 60 years. Can't have that, can they?

Only thing they can do is try to tear down his accomplishments by trying to make them seem they were unfairly done. Which is why the whole character assassination campaign has been going from the git-go.

@Smokin Joe

I STRONGLY disagree with the part I highlighted in bold. There are damn few people of ANY race who have the determination,the drive,and the intelligence to achieve what he has achieved.

Race has/had nothing to do with it. It was all about having the good luck to  have been born VERY determined as well as VERY intelligent,and then have the drive to suceed where damn few have even dared to venture.

Being black was no real handicap to him because it was irrelevant. And REMAINS irrelevant, despite the best efforts of the left to try to denigrate his accomplishments.

Thomas is NOT a symbol of success for intelligent black youth to follow,he is a symbol for EVERYONE to follow that has that level of ability and drive.
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2023, 01:05:42 am »
@Smokin Joe

I STRONGLY disagree with the part I highlighted in bold. There are damn few people of ANY race who have the determination,the drive,and the intelligence to achieve what he has achieved.

Race has/had nothing to do with it. It was all about having the good luck to  have been born VERY determined as well as VERY intelligent,and then have the drive to suceed where damn few have even dared to venture.

Being black was no real handicap to him because it was irrelevant. And REMAINS irrelevant, despite the best efforts of the left to try to denigrate his accomplishments.

Thomas is NOT a symbol of success for intelligent black youth to follow,he is a symbol for EVERYONE to follow that has that level of ability and drive.
What's the difference between a genius on skid row and one in a penthouse?

Grit and determination. I'm not saying Clarence Thomas's skin color has anything to do with his accomplishments, quite the opposite. He IS a very intelligent man who has applied himself. Reread the part you put in bold and there is a word there, Pete: "IF".

I'm not saying everyone on the Democrat Plantation is of the raw ability Clarence Thomas is, far from that, but within their capabilities grit and determination will determine whether they remain a slug on the dole, or whether they accomplish things well beyond their peers.

What the Democrats have fits about, the reason for the vitriol, is that Clarence Thomas has achieved without any of the nonsense they insist he could not have achieved anything without.

While the Leftists and their race hustlers tell the black population (and other minorities, except the Asians who generally have the grit and determination to succeed) that they are being held down, or held back, and it's all someone else's fault they aren't prosperous, Clarence Thomas is the person who absolutely proves them wrong.

Dear God, Pete, if that idea caught on, that people don't need the micromanagement of the Democrats and all the handouts to be successful, then buying votes with handouts wouldn't mean shit--and that would cost the Left all its power base.

Some ideas can't be tolerated by the Left if they are to remain in power, as much as they are, and THAT is one that absolutely cannot be allowed to catch on, or the Democrats lose their victim base and everyone walks off the Plantation. That, in a nutshell, is why the Democrats hate him, not just because he is an originalist when it comes to Constitutional interpretation.

For that matter, any person who could be lumped into a minority group who is a conservative is a threat to the Left. Anyone who believes that merit should be a basis for success is anathema to them,

I'm not minimizing Justice Thomas' accomplishments,here, he has my utmost and abiding respect. By the time i hold anyone in that regard, their race is irrelevant, at least to me--not that I worry much about that among the people I know,because I have only met three kinds of people in my lifetime: solid folks you can count on, people I'd rather not know, and folks I don't know well enough to say. They come in all sizes, shapes, and colors.

I'm saying the reason the Left hates him is that he proves their bullshit about Conservatives holding anyone down to be just that. It's the Leftists who fill young minds with crap about how they can never amount to anything and need the Leftists to provide for them, when Thomas is a shining example of just how untrue that is.

So the Left has to make it look like he somehow unfairly accomplished all he has, so they can keep the Plantation going.
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2023, 01:12:02 am »


So the Left has to make it look like he somehow unfairly accomplished all he has, so they can keep the Plantation going.

@Smokin Joe

Seems like we are in total agreement,and just saying the same thing in different ways.
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@Smokin Joe

Seems like we are in total agreement,and just saying the same thing in different ways.
Yep.  :beer:
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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2023, 09:40:20 am »
What's the difference between a genius on skid row and one in a penthouse?

Grit and determination. I'm not saying Clarence Thomas's skin color has anything to do with his accomplishments, quite the opposite. He IS a very intelligent man who has applied himself. Reread the part you put in bold and there is a word there, Pete: "IF".

I'm not saying everyone on the Democrat Plantation is of the raw ability Clarence Thomas is, far from that, but within their capabilities grit and determination will determine whether they remain a slug on the dole, or whether they accomplish things well beyond their peers.

What the Democrats have fits about, the reason for the vitriol, is that Clarence Thomas has achieved without any of the nonsense they insist he could not have achieved anything without.

While the Leftists and their race hustlers tell the black population (and other minorities, except the Asians who generally have the grit and determination to succeed) that they are being held down, or held back, and it's all someone else's fault they aren't prosperous, Clarence Thomas is the person who absolutely proves them wrong.

Dear God, Pete, if that idea caught on, that people don't need the micromanagement of the Democrats and all the handouts to be successful, then buying votes with handouts wouldn't mean shit--and that would cost the Left all its power base.

Some ideas can't be tolerated by the Left if they are to remain in power, as much as they are, and THAT is one that absolutely cannot be allowed to catch on, or the Democrats lose their victim base and everyone walks off the Plantation. That, in a nutshell, is why the Democrats hate him, not just because he is an originalist when it comes to Constitutional interpretation.

For that matter, any person who could be lumped into a minority group who is a conservative is a threat to the Left. Anyone who believes that merit should be a basis for success is anathema to them,

I'm not minimizing Justice Thomas' accomplishments,here, he has my utmost and abiding respect. By the time i hold anyone in that regard, their race is irrelevant, at least to me--not that I worry much about that among the people I know,because I have only met three kinds of people in my lifetime: solid folks you can count on, people I'd rather not know, and folks I don't know well enough to say. They come in all sizes, shapes, and colors.

I'm saying the reason the Left hates him is that he proves their bullshit about Conservatives holding anyone down to be just that. It's the Leftists who fill young minds with crap about how they can never amount to anything and need the Leftists to provide for them, when Thomas is a shining example of just how untrue that is.

So the Left has to make it look like he somehow unfairly accomplished all he has, so they can keep the Plantation going.

Post of the month @Smokin Joe and the simple fact is that minority populations were moving right on up in the world until the moment LBJ and his "Great Society" decided to "FIX" everything.
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« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2023, 10:37:43 am »
... the simple fact is that minority populations were moving right on up in the world until the moment LBJ and his "Great Society" decided to "FIX" everything.
Yes, and I am old enough to remember that shift in focus, from being empowered and finding a way to move up, to being 'victims'.

Consider, too, that every time any aspect of that has failed, the Leftists, when in power, have 'doubled down' rather than admit their initial premise was wrong.

In areas more completely under Leftist control since then, the damage is most profound, where their influence has been less, the damage less.
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