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‘Deteriorating Situation’: Nordstrom Closes Up Shop, Abandons San Francisco Due To ‘Unsafe Conditions’
Nordstrom Third Quarter Earnings Increase 147 Percent
 
ERINN BROADUS
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May 02, 2023
 

Nordstrom, a major clothing retailer, is closing two of its San Francisco locations, citing a “deteriorating situation,” downtown, a reference to heightened crime and vagrancy in the area, according to the San Francisco Standard.

Nordstrom announced it will not be renewing its lease at the location in Westfield Mall and a downtown Nordstrom Rack. Collectively, these locations represent about 357,500 square feet, reported the San Francisco Standard.

“The planned closure of Nordstrom underscores the deteriorating situation in downtown San Francisco,” said a spokesperson for the mall,” said a spokesperson for the mall. “A growing number of retailers and businesses are leaving the area due to the unsafe conditions for customers, retailers, and employees, coupled with the fact that these significant issues are preventing an economic recovery of the area,” they said.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/02/nordstrom-closes-up-shop-abandons-san-francisco-unsafe-conditions-deteriorating/
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Great news!  Punish the voters who keep putting these lunatic liberal politicians in office. :amen:
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Although I don’t advocate for it, martial law may be the only remedy

The inner-city black culture refuses to change, the politicians that they vote for to run their cities are worse and worse with every passing decade. I can’t see them being fixed short of martial law.
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357,500 square feet. Why, that is enough space for 357,500 illegals.
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Crime and vagrancy. Add in on-line shopping and ya got a recipe for disaster.

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Our cities are dying entities

Although I don’t advocate for it, martial law may be the only remedy

The inner-city black culture refuses to change, the politicians that they vote for to run their cities are worse and worse with every passing decade. I can’t see them being fixed short of martial law.

??? With martial law they can seize weapons.  No martial law is NOT the answer.

Governors of red states need to deploy the National Guard. Blue states need to do the same. 

 Sorry, but I blame Trump for a lot of this. Unfortunately Trump was more worried about getting re-elected instead of invoking the Insurrection Act when all the riots started -- no one was punished.  No repercussions. Now here we sit.   
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bele posted:
"I blame Trump for a lot of this. Unfortunately Trump was more worried about getting re-elected instead of invoking the Insurrection Act when all the riots started -- no one was punished.  No repercussions. Now here we sit."

I've posted this numerous times since the summer of 2020, and I'm going to repeat it again:

If Mr. Trump had sent in Army troops against the antifa and floyd rioters in places like Portland, and authorized the full use of all necessary force to disperse the rioters (arresting and shooting as necessary), he WOULD STILL BE PRESIDENT TODAY.

By not responding with the use of overwhelming force, the left has become more belligerent and aggressive.

Didn't all the college protests and rioting calm down a bit after Kent State in 1970...?

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bele posted:
"I blame Trump for a lot of this. Unfortunately Trump was more worried about getting re-elected instead of invoking the Insurrection Act when all the riots started -- no one was punished.  No repercussions. Now here we sit."

I've posted this numerous times since the summer of 2020, and I'm going to repeat it again:

If Mr. Trump had sent in Army troops against the antifa and floyd rioters in places like Portland, and authorized the full use of all necessary force to disperse the rioters (arresting and shooting as necessary), he WOULD STILL BE PRESIDENT TODAY.

By not responding with the use of overwhelming force, the left has become more belligerent and aggressive.

Didn't all the college protests and rioting calm down a bit after Kent State in 1970...?
After the Race Riots of the late '60s, there was a study done on what force levels to use to get the rioters off the streets at what stage of the riot. Once the mob is broken up and sent home, they stayed home, with curfews and 'violators will be shot on sight' rules, and the crap was over. The information is out there.

That said, it is up to the Governor of the State or the Local government to call for the National Guard and get help in quelling the problems in the streets. Like Katrina, when the Governor of Louisiana did not call for Federal help for days, most of the Federal response was tied down with red tape waiting for that request.

The governments of Minneapolis/Minnesota made no such request, and being just another hotbed of the Left, likely would have viewed any attempt by the Federal Government to bring order not as needed help, but an imposition of questionable Constitutionality. 

Needless to say, the ABCNNBCNS media would have come down like a ton of bricks on Trump for overreaching use of Federal Power, and the Pelosirats would have had another Article of Impeachment for 'abuse of power'.

If government is to be local or at the State level, then it falls on those entities to solve the problems or request aid if they cannot. They did neither, and their tax base suffered the destruction of over 500 businesses in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul) alone, not to mention the loss of business that occurred when entire store inventories walked off for free and the stores were burned or destroyed.  That situation was repeated across the country in leftist hotbeds, and the result of Federal imposition of order without State of Local Government requesting it would likely have been met with hostility by the State and Local Governments, if not the residents of the areas affected.

In effect, Trump was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't, but the onus for that destruction falls back on the State and Local Governments which had the job of maintaining order and failed to do so or request the help they needed when things got out of hand, regardless of how the MSM spun the issue.
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After the Race Riots of the late '60s, there was a study done on what force levels to use to get the rioters off the streets at what stage of the riot. Once the mob is broken up and sent home, they stayed home, with curfews and 'violators will be shot on sight' rules, and the crap was over. The information is out there.

That said, it is up to the Governor of the State or the Local government to call for the National Guard and get help in quelling the problems in the streets. Like Katrina, when the Governor of Louisiana did not call for Federal help for days, most of the Federal response was tied down with red tape waiting for that request.

The governments of Minneapolis/Minnesota made no such request, and being just another hotbed of the Left, likely would have viewed any attempt by the Federal Government to bring order not as needed help, but an imposition of questionable Constitutionality. 

Needless to say, the ABCNNBCNS media would have come down like a ton of bricks on Trump for overreaching use of Federal Power, and the Pelosirats would have had another Article of Impeachment for 'abuse of power'.

If government is to be local or at the State level, then it falls on those entities to solve the problems or request aid if they cannot. They did neither, and their tax base suffered the destruction of over 500 businesses in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul) alone, not to mention the loss of business that occurred when entire store inventories walked off for free and the stores were burned or destroyed.  That situation was repeated across the country in leftist hotbeds, and the result of Federal imposition of order without State of Local Government requesting it would likely have been met with hostility by the State and Local Governments, if not the residents of the areas affected.

In effect, Trump was damned if he did, and damned if he didn't, but the onus for that destruction falls back on the State and Local Governments which had the job of maintaining order and failed to do so or request the help they needed when things got out of hand, regardless of how the MSM spun the issue.

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bele posted:
"I blame Trump for a lot of this. Unfortunately Trump was more worried about getting re-elected instead of invoking the Insurrection Act when all the riots started -- no one was punished.  No repercussions. Now here we sit."

I've posted this numerous times since the summer of 2020, and I'm going to repeat it again:

If Mr. Trump had sent in Army troops against the antifa and floyd rioters in places like Portland, and authorized the full use of all necessary force to disperse the rioters (arresting and shooting as necessary), he WOULD STILL BE PRESIDENT TODAY.

By not responding with the use of overwhelming force, the left has become more belligerent and aggressive.

Didn't all the college protests and rioting calm down a bit after Kent State in 1970...?

No, he wouldn’t.  And he would have had no constitutional basis to send in federal forces in any event.

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Smokin' Joe suggests:
"If government is to be local or at the State level, then it falls on those entities to solve the problems or request aid if they cannot"

But what if those local (and even state) governments are socialist-communist?
They are going to ENCOURAGE the rioters, not quell them.

One other comment re "this is a state/local issue" (with a point towards Kamaji as well):
Recall that in Portland, the antifa/rioters were repeatedly attacking a FEDERAL building (the courthouse, I believe?).

If local and state authorities (again, which are communist) would not protect the location, then it becomes the prerogative of the FEDERAL government to do so.

Again, using federal troops (or "federalized" National Guard troops if need be), was warranted.

I will KEEP ON posting this, and you can go on trying to refute it until your breath runs out...

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Smokin' Joe suggests:
"If government is to be local or at the State level, then it falls on those entities to solve the problems or request aid if they cannot"

But what if those local (and even state) governments are socialist-communist?
They are going to ENCOURAGE the rioters, not quell them.

One other comment re "this is a state/local issue" (with a point towards Kamaji as well):
Recall that in Portland, the antifa/rioters were repeatedly attacking a FEDERAL building (the courthouse, I believe?).

If local and state authorities (again, which are communist) would not protect the location, then it becomes the prerogative of the FEDERAL government to do so.

Again, using federal troops (or "federalized" National Guard troops if need be), was warranted.

I will KEEP ON posting this, and you can go on trying to refute it until your breath runs out...

Using federal troops was not warranted.  Not for general suppression of civilian rioters.

As for protecting federal buildings - the federal government already has protective forces for their buildings.  There was no call for engaging in the unprecedented action of calling out federal military forces within the U.S.

If Trump had done that, he would have confirmed all of the worst speculations against him, and would have made Biden's election an all-out rout, akin to Reagan's election, rather than the highly contestable squeaker that it actually was.

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