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Wow.  You can't even bother to post statistics that jibe with your lies.

What data and lies are you referring to?





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I mean this in the very nicest of ways. When you cut and paste a claim from TruthSocial, research it first, look at the context, and if it turns out to be solidly true, then post it. Have at least some personal pride for God’s sake. Don’t sacrifice your integrity on the alter  of Donald Trump.

What part of "I post a statement, in full, without editorial opinion" continues to confuse you?

What part of debating the actual contents and substance of a statement instead of the motives of the author or the messenger angers you?

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I mean this in the very nicest of ways. When you cut and paste a claim from TruthSocial, research it first, look at the context, and if it turns out to be solidly true, then post it. Have at least some personal pride for God’s sake. Don’t sacrifice your integrity on the alter  of Donald Trump.

I think the most hilarious self lampooning of Trump yet was when he posted the baseball bat image and claimed it wasn't him, on his own account, and own his platform.  Truth Social?  :silly: Surprised the Babylon Bee didn't at least bite a little on that one.
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What part of debating the actual contents and substance of a statement instead of the motives of the author or the messenger angers you?

Care to debate the actual contents of these statements?

"[ I ] have a lot of confidence in Ron DeSantis, a lot of faith in Ron Desantis to make the right decision."

"He's been doing a great job and working very hard."

"He's a great governor.  He's done an incredible job."

"He's doing a great job as governor."

"He's been a fantastic governor for Florida.  They are very happy with him."

"One of the greatest governors in our country.  And I know a lot of good ones.  And I can tell you there are some really bad ones, too.  But this is a great one - Governor Ron DeSantis."

"Were in a place called 'Florida' and we have a great governor."

"Great governor, knows exactly what he is doing."

"Governor of Florida Ron DeSantis has done a spectacular job in Florida."

"[DeSantis] enjoys very high popularity, and that's for a reason.  The reason is he's doing a good job."

"He's done a lot of things right."

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What part of "I post a statement, in full, without editorial opinion" continues to confuse you?

What part of debating the actual contents and substance of a statement instead of the motives of the author or the messenger angers you?

I just simply refuted your claims. No anger or confusion. You took Charlie Crists tax claim and posted it. I simply provided an article to point out were the claim isn’t true. I also reminded you the dangers of just accepting Trump or his supporters claims as gospel. I also took a tweet you posted from a group upset why there’s a gas shortage in parts of Florida and provided you an article the reason why. It’s fair to question the motivations of someone making a political claim but that’s not all I did

Again, if DeSantis is such a terrible governor presiding over such a terribly run state, why did Trump move there and plans on staying there? Why did more people move there last year than any other state?
 I’m sorry if that question angers you
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Care to debate the actual contents of these statements?

"[ I ] have a lot of confidence in Ron DeSantis, a lot of faith in Ron Desantis to make the right decision."

"He's been doing a great job and working very hard."

"He's a great governor.  He's done an incredible job."

"He's doing a great job as governor."

"He's been a fantastic governor for Florida.  They are very happy with him."

"One of the greatest governors in our country.  And I know a lot of good ones.  And I can tell you there are some really bad ones, too.  But this is a great one - Governor Ron DeSantis."

"Were in a place called 'Florida' and we have a great governor."

"Great governor, knows exactly what he is doing."

"Governor of Florida Ron DeSantis has done a spectacular job in Florida."

"[DeSantis] enjoys very high popularity, and that's for a reason.  The reason is he's doing a good job."

"He's done a lot of things right."

-Donald J. Trump-

Trump was saying and doing the same sh__ to Cruz before he bacame a serious competitor for the nomination.  Trump is so predictable, sometimes I really question his intelligence.  He took us for fools, and many of us bought along upon what we thought were some idelological commonality.  but this isn't 2016.  He has a record, and fiscally it is dismal.  If even one high profile Repubican would stand up to Orange Menace, and pledge that seriously bringing government spending and debt under control, you might be surprised how well he polls.  RDS, as much as I like him and support him, needs to refocus his strategy away from the "We're Woke, and go for the "We're Broke" approach. 
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RDS, as much as I like him and support him, needs to refocus his strategy away from the "We're Woke, and go for the "We're Broke" approach.

Yup

The MAGAs are desperate to avoid the debt subject, understandably so from their perspective, but it needs to be a major topic of discussion in the GOP primary season

DeSantis is starting to soften somewhat on that issue and it’s a bit disappointing
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Trump on DeSantis:



" have a lot of confidence in Ron DeSantis, a lot of faith in Ron Desantis to make the right decision."

"He's been doing a great job and working very hard."

"He's a great governor.  He's done an incredible job."

"He's doing a great job as governor."

"He's been a fantastic governor for Florida.  They are very happy with him."

"One of the greatest governors in our country.  And I know a lot of good ones.  And I can tell you there are some really bad ones, too.  But this is a great one - Governor Ron DeSantis."

"Were in a place called 'Florida' and we have a great governor."

"Great governor, knows exactly what he is doing."

"Governor of Florida Ron DeSantis has done a spectacular job in Florida."

"[DeSantis] enjoys very high popularity, and that's for a reason.  The reason is he's doing a good job."

"He's done a lot of things right."

-Donald J. Trump-


If DeSantis runs, I hope he uses this for a campaign ad.

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If DeSantis runs, I hope he uses this for a campaign ad.

There’s no way he wouldn’t. And Trump will have difficulty spinning it. What would he say? “ I didn’t realize how much Florida sucked until DeSantis decided to run against me?” Lol… good luck with that
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Care to debate the actual contents of these statements?

-Donald J. Trump-[/size][/b][/indent]

You won't get an answer because It is impossible to reconcile all those statements with what Trump's campaign is now putting out.  The only way you can explain them is to acknowledge that Trump is a liar who says whatever suits his purposes in a given moment, truth be damned.

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Trump's henchmen Stone/Pecker  will gin up some kind of lie and figure out how to control the narrative.

He's already alluded to the WSJ in November 2022 that he knows secrets only his wife and him would have, and that it is information unflattering and would  want to keep quiet. 

That's how sleazy Trump is.
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What part of "I post a statement, in full, without editorial opinion" continues to confuse you?

What part of debating the actual contents and substance of a statement instead of the motives of the author or the messenger angers you?

You post statements without any verification of their accuracy, and then put the burden on other people to prove them false. That's the problem.  It takes far less effort to throw mud against the wall than it does to scrub it off.

Other posters would have to be fools to play that game with you.

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The only way you can explain them is to acknowledge that Trump is a liar who says whatever suits his purposes in a given moment, truth be damned.

Which is... On the record... pretty much true.

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You post statements without any verification of their accuracy, and then put the burden on other people to prove them false. That's the problem.  It takes far less effort to throw mud against the wall than it does to scrub it off.

The accuracy I focus on is the statement itself --- because it would be refreshing if you got at least this right.

I leave it to you to agree or disagree with the contents. 

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Trump is a liar who says whatever suits his purposes in a given moment, truth be damned.

Prove him wrong.

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The accuracy I focus on is the statement itself --- because it would be refreshing if you got at least this right.

I leave it to you to agree or disagree with the contents.

So you take no responsibility for the tweets and claims you posted just because others are making the claims??????

Lol….how Trumpian!!! :rolling:

Surely, you must at least be somewhat sympathetic to the claims made to post them

Do you admit that the tax claim isn’t entirely true? Do you admit that the gas shortages in parts of Florida are due, so far, to things out of human control? You sarcastically claimed that the current gas crunch in Florida should be taken nationally
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Prove him wrong.

Does Trump agree that DeSantis is a great governor or not? Does he agree that Florida is doing well or not? Why is DeSantis a rotten governor governing a rotten state only when he became a threat?


His opinion is situational. So neither you and I can answer.
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Prove him wrong.

Trump is the one making claims. It's up to him to prove it.
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Does Trump agree that DeSantis is a great governor or not? Does he agree that Florida is doing well or not? Why is DeSantis a rotten governor governing a rotten state only when he became a threat?


His opinion is situational. So neither you and I can answer.

He's making great progress as a fairy tale and fantasy writer though.
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Trump is the one making claims. It's up to him to prove it.

Bizarre

We post Trump’s own words, full context, and they still live in doubt
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Bizarre

We post Trump’s own words, full context, and they still live in doubt

Or live in distortion.  One Briefer even claimed earlier Trump's Freedom Cities were intended for junkies.
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If DeSantis runs, I hope he uses this for a campaign ad.

Be careful what you wish for @LadyLiberty

DeSantis Video:


https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1640398576365846535

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I am paying attention  --- to the migration pattern over just the last 20 years.  An aging population and no income tax guarantees Florida's continued population growth ----- which makes Ron, in his fifth year serving as governor, being unprepared for the current housing crisis all the more troubling @libertybele

No, apparently you are not.  Aging population has absolutely nothing to do with it.  People are fleeing because blue states continue to raise taxes and housing costs are no longer affordable.  FL has a housing crisis because they can't build houses and especially apartments quick enough. I live here @Right_in_Virginia  I can see what's going on.  Prices are going up because there are so many moving here. Cost of materials to build houses since Brandon has become prez have gone up. DeSantis has no control over what Brandon does.

It is still cheaper to buy houses here than it is in CT, NY, NJ, CA, etc.  Those that have been residents are struggling because of the influx.  So, you expect DeSantis to dictate what builders can charge for houses or what sellers can ask for the price of their home???

Again, stop looking through Orange colored glasses and stop believing some of the b.s. tweets that you believe to be gospel truth.

From July 2021-July 2022, nearly 444,500 people moved to Florida, which compared to the previous year was a gain of 185,000, the largest year-over-year impact of residents moving.

BTW if Trump doesn't like FL or our governor, he should move.  Quite simple.  He's going after him with lies (his usual) and back pedaling (as usual) on what he previously said about the state and our governor.   Why?  He's threatened  ... you go right along with him as you know he's a threat, otherwise you wouldn't continue your Trumpian attacks on DeSantis.

Next.  :seeya:

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Be careful what you wish for @LadyLiberty

DeSantis Video:


https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1640398576365846535
5 years is an enternity in politics, and you know it.   You've gotten desperate.
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